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stevebradley - 2010-05-10 1:26 PM



TRACEY -

I'll make a deal with you. I'll help you with ridden/rode if you help me with lay/lie/lain -- that whole family of obnoxious inbreeds!

Anyhow, you had it correct with "ridden", as you used it in that sentence. My response could've been something like "Sorry, I didn't quite hear; how many miles did you say you rode?" It's a past particple/past tense thing....but don't ask me to define past participle!

A couple of weeks ago I wrote something to Steve like, "....and then just lay low until race day", but I'm never sure about that. Should it have been "...and then just lie low until...."? I should just always avoid the issue and opt for another locution such as "....and then just rest until...."

Onwards!!

Good! You've got one 10-miler under your belt, and you were quick to say that you could easily up the mileage. Perfect! If you can find one or two or more bike-friendly routes (or user-friendly times to ride the less bike-freiendly routes), it will change your prespective dramatically. But as I said in the previous post to you, at this point you need go no further than a few miles past 10 if your only desire is to be ready for Escape. So, maybe set the limit at 15 if, overall, finding time to train is a bit of a challenge.

If you can do a brick a week, that would be great! That would be four or five beteen now and Escape, and I think I mentioned three before -- one each with 1, 1.5, and 2-mile runs. But if you're looking at possibly five of them, then maybe set the first with a half-mile run, just to get that first feeling of what it feels like to run off of the bike.

Two approaches would be:
(1) Start both B and R low, and bring them up together, and
(2) Keep B the same each time, but make each R longer than the previous one.

So, (1) might see an 8-mile bike with a 0.5 mile run one week, then 9m B with a 1m run nexy week, and so on, while (2) would have roughly 10-12 mile rides each brick, and then adding on new increments each run. As you sound confident about the bike, I would probably go with (2). But overall, the difference is not going to be that great.

If you are like most people, the first few/several bricks you do will feel really odd. I coluld regale you with stories of coming off the bike and wondering long I could continue putting one foot in front of the other in such a state......but it usually always improves with time. And that's time doing bricks, period, as well as time into a speciific brick-run. ("The first few steps are doozies.")

One thing that will help is to shorten your stride for the first minute or two or three. Keep the stride small and compact, and it might help to visualize an almost-shuffle -- feet low to the ground, no attempt to "run pretty". (In time, you'll be able to mostly"run pretty" when you get off the bike, but don't aim for that quite yet; but if it happens, GREAT!)

Off on a run of my own now, where my newly-acquired tight back might prevent ME from running pretty. Maybe I should just lay low instead!

thall0672 - 2010-05-10 7:13 PM

Thanks SteveB.

So based on your advice, I think I'm going to do one bike/run brick per week until Escape, each with a 10 mile ride. I'll start the run distance at 1 mile, and increase by 1/2 mile each week. That way, I'll be up to 3 miles by the actual week of the race. If I can make it there, I should go in feeling pretty confident.

Then after Escape it'll be about 10 weeks until Timberman. Timberman has a 15 mile ride, so I think I'll continue the bike/run bricks once per week, increasing the bike distance by 1 mile every 2 weeks to work up to 15 just before the race. (I'll vary the run distances between 1 1/2 and 2 miles or so, and will get in at least a couple 3 milers too).

Do you think that sound appropriate?

Thanks!

Oh and I wish I could help you with lay/lie/lain. That's one I've never mastered!

TriD64 - 2010-05-10 10:35 PM Tracy, one of the ways I have used bricks in practice is to break the totals in to 2-4 sets. For example, 5 mile bike/.5 mile run, repeat. This gives me more practice running off the bike, and I've found I can get in more distance than doing the full distances straight through. I only use this variation this occasionally, but I've found it a nice change and I think it has helped me find my 'sea legs' a bit faster. I'm interested if others' thoughts and experiences. Mark

TriD64 - 2010-05-10 10:35 PM



Tracy, one of the ways I have used bricks in practice is to break the totals in to 2-4 sets. For example, 5 mile bike/.5 mile run, repeat. This gives me more practice running off the bike, and I've found I can get in more distance than doing the full distances straight through. I only use this variation this occasionally, but I've found it a nice change and I think it has helped me find my 'sea legs' a bit faster. I'm interested if others' thoughts and experiences. Mark

stevebradley - 2010-05-11 9:43 AM



TRACEY -

Thinking some more about Emily and gloom and doom, the "Pain" poem works it that context because it almost certainly reflects her own melancholic tendencies.

Although I posted it just a s a way to think about physical pain........I don't think Emily suffered from too many overuse injuries! Neuromas? Iliotibial Band Syndrome? Plantar fasciitis? I don't think so!




Aporopos of THAT, however, I have played around with the notion of Emily Dickinson and Walt Whitman doing triathlons -- what would they wear, how would they comport themselves as competitors, what would their strengths be, and so on. Someday I will do something with that, I think!

stevebradley - 2010-05-11 9:46 AM



TRACEY again -

Well, it turns out I was much better off hearing Bach and Schumann and Buxtehude played on the organ last night, as opposed to watching the Bruins get shut out by Philly.

Oh. My.

Uh. Oh.

Getting a bit twitchy and nervous here......

stevebradley - 2010-05-11 6:11 AM STEVE - I know what you're going through, but please try not to let it get under your skin. It is SO common for ironpersons to suffer lack of motivation post-race, and it WILL get better. Again, it is a good scenario for you because there is still a full season up ahead. But for most of us mortals, the crash is tough --- many months of hard training, then the forced lengthy recovery. WHAT"S A BODY TO DO?!? Unfortunately, my Full Service Mentor offerins do not include bailouts or stimulus packages. I mean, I try to be stimulating....but that's not exactly what you have in mind for your workout bank. Hmmm........ About the best I can do is remind you frequently of Vineman, so I will try to remember to pepper the post here with the occasional one that just says Vineman. That will be it. Your name won't be there - just Vineman. And maybe a date on some. Think of it as code. I will run a "test" next post. We'll get this going for you!

stevebradley - 2010-05-11 8:35 AM LISA again - ASICS - Anima Sana In Corpore Sano 1) "a healthy soul rests in a healthy body" 2) "a sound mind in a sound body" 3) "a sound mind rests in a sound body" I suppose there are many more interpretations, but I stopped at three.