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D001 - 2009-05-01 10:18 AM Did my walkogging tonight. Lots of stuff to think about. The short strides make me even slower than usual. (Which is already like molasses on a GOOD day.) But hey, if it keeps me from getting injured, it's worth it! And best of all --> my knee does NOT hurt tonight! Yay!!!! (Well, not like it usually does. Just a little twingy. But I can live with that.)

WOO HOO!!!

Thats fabulous news Dee!! How are the new shoes?

Um. I haven't been wearing them.... When I did, the knee and ankles felt better -- but the OTHER knee and heel started bothering me. So I'm using the original ones, and working on technique.

Oh...dear....

Thats not exactly what you wanted to happen...

Guess I'm just lopsided. LOL The knee is starting to tighten up tonight. I kind of expected that though. I emailed the RD about the disappearing registration for this weekend's 5K. It's supposed to close tonight at 11:59 pm, but instead, it shut down around noon, with a notice saying that registration ended at 6:59 am. I haven't heard back from the RD yet. I'm thinking that even though I technically got there in time (according to what's been posted all week), but if they closed it, maybe they'll let me pay a late fee.... Or, if it's really closed, maybe they still need volunteers.

Hope you get in!

Otherwise volunteering is pretty inspiring... you get to see the super fast the BOP (Back of the Pack) people too... all cheering and stuff is much appreciated and smiles...

Hope yuo get to go either way



2009-04-30 11:26 PM
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OK, heard back about the 5K on Saturday. They said I can register that morning.
2009-04-30 11:29 PM
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D001 - 2009-05-01 2:26 PM OK, heard back about the 5K on Saturday. They said I can register that morning.

Yay!! Hope you are excited!!!

2009-05-01 1:33 AM
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kaqphin - 2009-04-30 9:44 PM

D001 - 2009-05-01 12:19 PM
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D001 - 2009-05-01 10:18 AM Did my walkogging tonight. Lots of stuff to think about. The short strides make me even slower than usual. (Which is already like molasses on a GOOD day.) But hey, if it keeps me from getting injured, it's worth it! And best of all --> my knee does NOT hurt tonight! Yay!!!! (Well, not like it usually does. Just a little twingy. But I can live with that.)

WOO HOO!!!

Thats fabulous news Dee!! How are the new shoes?

Um. I haven't been wearing them.... When I did, the knee and ankles felt better -- but the OTHER knee and heel started bothering me. So I'm using the original ones, and working on technique.

Oh...dear....

Thats not exactly what you wanted to happen...



You should take them back to the running store you bought them from and let them know what happened; maybe they will exchange them for a different pair or suggest some OTC orthotics/inserts.

Do whatever it takes to prevent injury - I can't get back to walkogging until I see the orthopedist in two weeks, so it will be like starting over for me
2009-05-01 1:47 AM
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JoeBWan - 2009-04-29 9:02 AM
D001 - 2009-04-28 3:24 PM More questions for the group! What are your thoughts about recovery? What helps your sore muscles recover faster? (Stretching, massage, heat, cold, etc?) Also, how long do you wait until your next workout using those muscles? (Until all the soreness is gone, or some of it, etc.?) How can you differentiate "normal soreness" from "Gee, I'm overdoing it"? Do you find that nutrition impacts your recovery? (For example, extra protein to help repair/grow muscles?)


I've done a bunch of research on the recovery drinks/energy bars and I have come to embrace 1% chocolate milk wholeheartedly.  I always follow my endurance workouts (run/swim/bike but not weight training) with 12 oz of the stuff.

About recovering after workouts, I generally feel warmth and wobbliness after a nice long run, but no pain.  If I have been inconsistent in my workouts, I will get DOMS (Delayed Onset Muscle Soreness) about two days after the workout.  I'm not a big proponent of R.I.C.E. (Rest Ice Compression Elevation), but instead like M.I.C.E. (Movement Ice Compression Elevation).  If I don't move my sore muscles AT ALL, they really don't improve as quickly and tend to really stiffen up.  I advocate getting some movement going to motivate the body to pay attention to the sore area and get some healing and recovery going.

So, MICE:

Movement - example: if you're sore from a 5 mile run, take a 1 mile walk or go for a swim instead of hitting the road

Ice - Man, ice has been my lifesaver.  I always doubted its efficacy until I had serious shin splints and now my ankle injury.  Get a nice ice wrap and put it arond the sore muscle.  Leave it there for 20 minutes or so 3 or 4 times a day

Compression - get a wrap or compressing sock or whatever works for the sore body part.  It keeps the swelling down, aids in circulation and provides support during the Movement

Elevation - whenever you're sitting still, try to keep the sore part heart level or higher.  Sometimes, I'll lie on the floor with my foot up on the couch while reading or watching TV

About how to tell if the pain is normal exercise soreness or abnormal injury - for me it comes down to two things:  1) Sharp pains are no good whatsoever.  If it makes you jump or react quickly, stop doing whatever you're doing.  2)  Normal functioning.  If you can't move your muscles the way you normally do, you probably went too far.  I have mostly felt this way after weight training, but sometimes after runs or bike rides where I went too long and incorporated too many hills.  Sometimes this kind of soreness just requires some additional time off.  And MICE, of course.

Good advice!!

R.I.C.E is for INJURIES! Not for DOMS... and I find gentle movement is great... can be a walk, a stretch, an easy swim... swimming is GREAT recovery for me! Its quite personal what works for you!

I only use Ice if its my knees or ankles swelling uip and that usually pretty close to post race. If Im really desparate I might take a NSAID (like ibuprofen) but thats ONLY if its an old injury playing up!

Im allfor compresion... its no secret I use compressions socks but with my ankles/shins its once again more like managing an OLD injury than anything!(ankles, shins)

Achy sore is more DOMS like Joe said, sharp stabby or localised pain may be an injury... mild or other?

Some people get more DOMs than others so you cant judge your level of discomfort on anyone else... when I did the tri in January everyone else was fine in 24 hours... I was hobbling around for 3-4 days!

In terms of nutrition post race... first priority is hydration, second if replenishing your muscle glycogen... depending on the length of the race etc this can take several hours or several days.

Because you havent raced much Dee you might find your body takes a little while to come right... thats all good! Dont worry about it... just keep any workout intensities low, eat well (with a few treats if you like) and be patient!

Another trickIve been meaing to try is a bath of Epsom Salts... I know some very good cyclists/runners who swear by it for Doms... I STILL havent tried it despite having all the required ingredients!

 



I'm a little behind, but getting caught up (auditors that get paid by the hour just won't leave the office)...  I like/agree with the above info on recovery.  Back in January, when I was working up my walkogging program, I found that some good long stretching helped after my workout helped a lot.  Now, I sit in the dry sauna after lifting weights and will do some stretching in there (muscles are nice and warm and pliable, good sweat going to move out the toxins, awesome).
2009-05-01 7:19 AM
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Happy May everyone! Brand new month to start coloring up. Thank you everyone for your inspires! Have a happy, healthy May! 



2009-05-02 1:42 PM
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D - can't wait to hear how the 5k went.  

Hope everyone has a good weekend.  I have to teach a lifeguard class, so I won't have much time for training.

Weather here is nasty...we've had 4 inches of rain in the last 2 days...yuk!

Vacation bound on Monday   ---if the kiddo can shake his fever...poor guy. 

2009-05-02 5:14 PM
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crews - 2009-05-02 2:42 PM

D - can't wait to hear how the 5k went.  

Hope everyone has a good weekend.  I have to teach a lifeguard class, so I won't have much time for training.

Weather here is nasty...we've had 4 inches of rain in the last 2 days...yuk!

Vacation bound on Monday   ---if the kiddo can shake his fever...poor guy. 



It went well. I had fun, and my time improved a little from last week. (But the course was MUCH flatter today, so I didn't spend most of my time going up and down hills.) Race report is posted here, if anyone wants to read it.

Hope that your son AND you are both feeling better soon! (Ear infections are bothersome, but IMO, stomach bugs are the worst!)
2009-05-02 5:15 PM
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losta - 2009-05-01 8:19 AM

Happy May everyone! Brand new month to start coloring up. Thank you everyone for your inspires! Have a happy, healthy May! 



Did you know that there's a Peach Challenge (in the Challenge forum) every month? The goal is to do *something* every day, so that your entire training calendar turns "peach."

2009-05-02 8:00 PM
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D001 - 2009-05-03 8:15 AM
losta - 2009-05-01 8:19 AM

Happy May everyone! Brand new month to start coloring up. Thank you everyone for your inspires! Have a happy, healthy May! 

Did you know that there's a Peach Challenge (in the Challenge forum) every month? The goal is to do *something* every day, so that your entire training calendar turns "peach."

Actually its a really goodchallenge... there is no winning or loosing...you just try to do somethingeveryday.

If you dont thats ok too! You just try to get as many peaches as you can

2009-05-02 8:01 PM
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D001 - 2009-05-03 8:14 AM
crews - 2009-05-02 2:42 PM

D - can't wait to hear how the 5k went.  

Hope everyone has a good weekend.  I have to teach a lifeguard class, so I won't have much time for training.

Weather here is nasty...we've had 4 inches of rain in the last 2 days...yuk!

Vacation bound on Monday   ---if the kiddo can shake his fever...poor guy. 

It went well. I had fun, and my time improved a little from last week. (But the course was MUCH flatter today, so I didn't spend most of my time going up and down hills.) Race report is posted here, if anyone wants to read it. Hope that your son AND you are both feeling better soon! (Ear infections are bothersome, but IMO, stomach bugs are the worst!)

Way to go Dee!!! Hope you had a BLAST



2009-05-02 8:02 PM
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crews - 2009-05-03 4:42 AM

D - can't wait to hear how the 5k went.  

Hope everyone has a good weekend.  I have to teach a lifeguard class, so I won't have much time for training.

Weather here is nasty...we've had 4 inches of rain in the last 2 days...yuk!

Vacation bound on Monday   ---if the kiddo can shake his fever...poor guy. 

Does the lifeguard class include time in the water? That would be your training for the weekend!!

 

Hope your little one feels better soon

2009-05-03 11:10 AM
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We've gotten quiet here.....

The "after effects" of running a 5K are better this week than last week. Of course, there were lots more hills last week! Today, I have some minor ankle and knee issues, and a few sore muscles, but nothing major.

I found that when I tried to increase my pace yesterday, my technique suffered. Whenever I felt my heels hitting the pavement first, I'd slow my pace down, and concentrate on form.

I think that because I'm short, I've *always* just taken longer strides (when walking or running) so that I could keep up with taller people. It's easier for me to take long strides than to have a quick turnover. (Does that make sense?)

Now that I'm trying to shorten the stride, it just feels.... strange.

Obviously, the thing I need to do is just lots more practice!

(Today is a non-run day though.)

Hope everyone is having a good weekend!
2009-05-03 11:54 AM
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D001 - 2009-05-03 12:10 PM We've gotten quiet here..... The "after effects" of running a 5K are better this week than last week. Of course, there were lots more hills last week! Today, I have some minor ankle and knee issues, and a few sore muscles, but nothing major. I found that when I tried to increase my pace yesterday, my technique suffered. Whenever I felt my heels hitting the pavement first, I'd slow my pace down, and concentrate on form. I think that because I'm short, I've *always* just taken longer strides (when walking or running) so that I could keep up with taller people. It's easier for me to take long strides than to have a quick turnover. (Does that make sense?) Now that I'm trying to shorten the stride, it just feels.... strange. Obviously, the thing I need to do is just lots more practice! (Today is a non-run day though.) Hope everyone is having a good weekend!


Great job, Dee!  I knew you could do the 5K just fine, but improving on your time?  That's awesome!

2009-05-03 12:44 PM
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D001 - 2009-05-03 11:10 AM We've gotten quiet here..... The "after effects" of running a 5K are better this week than last week. Of course, there were lots more hills last week! Today, I have some minor ankle and knee issues, and a few sore muscles, but nothing major. I found that when I tried to increase my pace yesterday, my technique suffered. Whenever I felt my heels hitting the pavement first, I'd slow my pace down, and concentrate on form. I think that because I'm short, I've *always* just taken longer strides (when walking or running) so that I could keep up with taller people. It's easier for me to take long strides than to have a quick turnover. (Does that make sense?) Now that I'm trying to shorten the stride, it just feels.... strange. Obviously, the thing I need to do is just lots more practice! (Today is a non-run day though.) Hope everyone is having a good weekend!

 

Awesome job on the 5k D. 

 

I just finished teaching my lifeguard and cpr class...I'm officially on vacation!  No more work.  Headed out now for the first training ride for the Tour de Rock Family Fun Ride.  We will probably get rained out, but I will be there to greet all of the new folks and encourage them to come back next week. 

Hope everyone enjoys the rest of the weekend.  We are headed to Cancun in the a.m.  I will celebrate Cinco De Mayo with a margaita and think of my fellow mentees 

2009-05-03 2:37 PM
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Good Going Dee!
Crews, you are brave. I thought they closed Mexico?
Stay healthy everyone!

 


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Can anyone tell me how to post short term/long term goals in the training log?
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2009-05-03 3:30 PM
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losta - 2009-05-03 3:59 PM

Can anyone tell me how to post short term/long term goals in the training log?
thanks! 


I like to do it through the dashboard....

- At the top of the window, click "settings."
- Click "training blog customization."
- Click "Dashboard."
- Make your changes, then click "Update."


2009-05-03 3:32 PM
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JoeBWan - 2009-05-03 12:54 PM

Great job, Dee!  I knew you could do the 5K just fine, but improving on your time?  That's awesome!



Thanks, everyone!

Yup. It took me 41 minutes last week, and 38 minutes this week. (No hills, and I knew more of what to expect this time.)

Now, I just need to work on my running technique for awhile.



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Hey guys..sorry ive been MIA for so long...but finals, graduation crap, and a lot of partying got in the way.

Can someone give me the cliffsnotes for what I missed?
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D001 - 2009-05-04 6:32 AM
JoeBWan - 2009-05-03 12:54 PM Great job, Dee!  I knew you could do the 5K just fine, but improving on your time?  That's awesome!

Thanks, everyone! Yup. It took me 41 minutes last week, and 38 minutes this week. (No hills, and I knew more of what to expect this time.) Now, I just need to work on my running technique for awhile.

WAY TO GO DEE!!!

Great that you arent as sore today!!!

Sounds like you have a plan too which is awesome... so whens the next race?



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D001 - 2009-05-03 11:10 AM We've gotten quiet here..... The "after effects" of running a 5K are better this week than last week. Of course, there were lots more hills last week! Today, I have some minor ankle and knee issues, and a few sore muscles, but nothing major. I found that when I tried to increase my pace yesterday, my technique suffered. Whenever I felt my heels hitting the pavement first, I'd slow my pace down, and concentrate on form. I think that because I'm short, I've *always* just taken longer strides (when walking or running) so that I could keep up with taller people. It's easier for me to take long strides than to have a quick turnover. (Does that make sense?) Now that I'm trying to shorten the stride, it just feels.... strange. Obviously, the thing I need to do is just lots more practice! (Today is a non-run day though.) Hope everyone is having a good weekend!

 

Awesome job on the 5k D. 

 

I just finished teaching my lifeguard and cpr class...I'm officially on vacation!  No more work.  Headed out now for the first training ride for the Tour de Rock Family Fun Ride.  We will probably get rained out, but I will be there to greet all of the new folks and encourage them to come back next week. 

Hope everyone enjoys the rest of the weekend.  We are headed to Cancun in the a.m.  I will celebrate Cinco De Mayo with a margaita and think of my fellow mentees 

Hope the ride was fun!

 

And... have a margarita for me!

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patchadams - 2009-05-04 8:15 AM Hey guys..sorry ive been MIA for so long...but finals, graduation crap, and a lot of partying got in the way. Can someone give me the cliffsnotes for what I missed?

Welcome back Path... glad you survived!!!

Not sure how much you have missed... need to work out when you first checked in.... but:

Dee - Got new running shoes, successfully run a couple of 5k races and is awesome

El Flaco - took his BIL through a half marathon and is getting back into the swing of things

RudeDogg - Swimming his tooshie off in preparation for this months challenge

Sulcus - has been a little quiet after his initial posting frenzy

Crews - Got her new bike and is now off to Cancun for a holiday (if her little one gets healthy)

JoeBwan - has been incredibly patient with his ankle and is now back up and running

d2lock - is having a really chaotic time at work but making an amazing effort to keep in touch and up to date with everything

madkat - is back on track with her training and eating (way to go!)

losta - is also on track and being really consistent! Her training plan starts in a couple of weeks so right now she is just getting used to being active

peach5757 - has been checking in when she can. And (following the common theme) she is also being amazingly consistent.

 

To summarise - everyone is training well, consistently and staying on track so Im really really impressed.

Some of the main talking points have been:

- Injuries vs DOMS (Delayed onset muscle soreness) and how to deal with it

- The importance of good running shoes

- Goal setting for May

Ummm I hope thats all the big stuff!!!!

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D001 - 2009-05-04 6:32 AM
JoeBWan - 2009-05-03 12:54 PM Great job, Dee!  I knew you could do the 5K just fine, but improving on your time?  That's awesome!

Thanks, everyone! Yup. It took me 41 minutes last week, and 38 minutes this week. (No hills, and I knew more of what to expect this time.) Now, I just need to work on my running technique for awhile.

WAY TO GO DEE!!!

Great that you arent as sore today!!!

Sounds like you have a plan too which is awesome... so whens the next race?



Well, the thing is.... athletic events aren't big around here. Then, this year, then announce TWO 5K local races. (On consecutive weekends, but that's another story.) So I did both..... But now, I don't think there's anything else around here. So I'm looking online to see what else I can find.....
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Adding to Cat's "Cliff Notes" --->

Dee - Decided that the shoes weren't the problem as much as her running technique was.

El Flaco - Is sick.

RudeDogg - WANTS to show off his rear view, no matter what the results of the challenge.

JoeBwan - did a 5K DOG RUN this weekend. He and Cinnamon took THIRD PLACE! They took home a nice stash of goodies, too. (I think he should write up a race report for it.)

Cat - Wasn't feeling well last week, but hopes to get a workout in today.

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