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More than likely its Patellar Tendinitis.  Start icing it after working out.  10 - 15 minutes.  Ice in a bag and a towel between the bag and the skin.

I'd get a doc to check it out, make sure it's nothing meniscus related. 

 

I hear you.  I have made it a point to make my running better.  It certainly has and I'm not letting it go now.



I'm very surprised - both you and LostSheep have said this.  If so I went out a *lot* faster than I thought.  45:18 is 1:02 faster than my fastest standalone 10k.  No wonder I flamed out at mile 11. LOL



Very nice consistent splits!  Mile 7 was the worst of the hill, though I gather there are other reasons for your horrifically slow time there (<---- note dripping sarcasm).

As far as mile 3 I was running with three other guys at the time and we all laughed at the split.  In today's GPS world you can't be off by that much and not have it noticed!

Double post.


Edited by sand101 2010-02-15 6:58 PM

Is the pain above or below the joint?

Good Job on the half guys.

I'm off tomorrow to Cabo for a week.  Can't wait to be shed of this cold weather. Hopefully it'll be an opportunity to hit the swim workouts hard. You guys dont eat any yellow snow!

Actually, that makes sense.  That puts me at ~46:40 or so, which is just a shade slower than my standalone 10k.  Definitely getting faster!

I like the shirt.  Don't mind the stripe.  I'm a soccer guy, though, so I'm used to that style.

As far as following women I followed one in a full trisuit for the first mile.  Until I realized she ran the first mile in 7 minutes flat.  I hated to let her go, but some things are just unattainable...

Edited by sand101 2010-02-15 8:21 PM

Good job on your run.  Sounds like you both had solid races despite the cold weather!

Still here guys.  I have not worked out at all since Monday.  My knee feels fine this morning and I plan on riding my bike Saturday and a 3-4 mile run on Sunday to see how it feels.  I still feel a very small amount of tenderness when my knee is bent but it is no where close to how I felt on Monday afternoon.  I put my running shoes on yesterday morning and was going to run and thought no I will give it a couple of more days.  I have my first tri in two weeks  1 mile swim, 18 mile bike and 5 mile run.  I will know a lot after my bike ride Saturday and run Sunday. 

The pain was in the front of my knee above the knee cap.  I have never strectched before or after any workouts but I think I will begin just as an added measure.  The run I did Sunday was my third run of 13.1 miles in 3 weeks.  I did the race on Sunday, another 13.1 mile run the next Sunday, and than last Sunday a 13.1 mile run.  I had been doing long runs every other week.  The total miles during those weeks stayed around what I had been doing so there is no over use as far as miles total for the week. 

While training for a half last fall I started stretching before and after ever workout.  I feel like it has made a big difference in how I feel after workouts and how I recover from them.  Where is the tenderness in your knee?

I just signed up for a 10-K.  The race is at the end of April so it will give me about a month to recover from my marathon.  I thought it would be a good idea because most of the races I've been doing have been either 10-miler or half marathon.  Since I'm going to be doing two triathlons this year (a sprint and an olympic) I thought it would be helpful to get some running experience at those distances.

A month should be more than enough to recover for a 10k.  I had forgotten you were doing a mary.  Do you have a goal time?  First marathon?

First one, my goal is 4:00.  I had a pipe dream goal of less then 3:50 when I started training but I think that's a little realistic. 

Awesome, man! 

I rode the bike yesterday and when I started I felt like a million dollars. The 4 days off made me feel great. I rode a comfortable pace and did not push on any hills. As the ride progressed I was having a very very low pain around the front of the knee cap again. I finished the ride and put ice on it for about an hour and took some Ibuprofen Went swimming around lunch for 45 minutes no issues. As the day wore on the pain got worse and I was limping due to the right knee. This morning I am up and the knee feels good but not as good as it did Saturday morning. I am going out to try and run 4 miles easy and see how it feels the rest of the day. I plan on getting in another swim. More than likely I will make a dr. appt and see what I need to do.I have a century ride coming up next Sunday, a sprint Triathlon 1st week in March, and an event at end of April and not to mention Disney. This is tough!

Edited by [email protected] 2010-02-21 6:50 AM

Been reading all morning on this knee problem. The more I read the more I come to the conclusion that it is the Chondromalacia patella is a common cause of kneecap pain or anterior knee pain. Often called "Runner's Knee," this condition often affects young, otherwise healthy athletes. Here is the link that I could add my name to because it is me exactly. http://orthopedics.about.com/cs/patelladisorders/a/chondromalacia.h... is a quote from the article. I took 4 days off and rode yesterday. Was going to run today. I am not. I going to go swimming and lift weights and give this a couple of weeks. As much as I do not want to I don't have a choice. I still plan on seeing a sports doctor to check it out but with all I read I am fairly sure this is me.Two points from the article:You don't really participate in the treatment.This is certainly not true for everyone, but it is true for the majority of patients. If you want to rid yourself of chondromalacia, you MUST rest. Any activity that causes chondromalacia knee pain, be it a run, walking up steps, or anything else, is causing further irritation to the cartilage under the kneecap. You need to give your body a chance to heal. Many patients are given a knee strengthening program or sent to a physical therapist. The reason for this is not so much to make you stronger (the average patient with chondromalacia is quite strong), but to better balance the muscles around the knee. Without specific exercises to balance these muscles, and a proper stretching routine, the problem of chondromalacia will likely not be solved. Doing the exercises every day is an important part of treatment. You haven't set aside enough time to recover.Many patients have a race in two months, have the onset of chondromalacia, and expect a few days of backing off their training schedule should cure the problem. Sorry. You need several weeks, at a minimum, to allow the irritated cartilage to settle down. You'll then need several more weeks to slowly build up your activities in order to resume your training schedule.

I would try to find a sport medicine specialist or doctor that works with athletes.  I had knee problems in college and it was really annoying to deal with doctors that aren't used to working with athletes.   I'd also be careful about running, etc.  just to see how it feels.  Don't get me wrong, I'd be doing the same thing.  You just need to be careful how you go about doing it.  Do you have access to a treadmill?  If so I'd suggest running on it.  I hurt my foot after a half marathon last fall.  I gave it some rest and then as able to train lightly on it until it was 100% again.  Some days it was ok and other days it wasn't and I never really knew until half way though my workout.  By running on a treadmill I could immediately end my workout if things weren't going well.  You don't want to realize you can't run on your knee halfway through your run and be 2 miles from home.

That is great advice on the treadmill.  I hadn't thought of that.  I not going to attempt to run for two weeks from today.  I may be over doing that or maybe not but I won't try again until two weeks.  That is the day of the sprint triathon.  In the mean time I will keep up the swimming.  The triathlon is a 1 mile swim 18 mile bike and 5 mile run.  I want to do it but not sure on the first day back after two weeks if I should bike 18( Flat Course) and run 5 aftewards (flat course)

As far as the doctor, I have a sport doctor a friend used who had a menscus tear about 4 weeks ago.  I am going to see him this week and I will keep the group posted. 

I did something very similar when I hurt my foot, ie I decided I would take a full week off.  It was a lot easier mentally to think that I was recovering instead of beating myself up each day trying to decide whether or not I should work out.

I haven't really checked in in a bit here since my half. I took it fairly easy this week. Did some MTB yesterday since it was finally nice enough to go biking. Woohoo!

I have a 5k coming up in early March - I'm doing it solely because a friend is running it. Anyway, I went out today and did a couple intervals and found that the biking pretty much wiped me out. I did manage to get some 3/4 mile intervals (with 1 1/4 in between) done in 6:40 and 6:50 on very tired legs. Until this little 5k I am going to try and get my legs in the "let them fly" mode. I have done 21:12 on a hilly course. 19:59 is my (unrealistic) goal. But if I completely flame out, #### it, its just a (cheap) 5k.

How is everyone's training going?  We had an Indian Summer over the weekend.  Got in a 2:50 ride with #1, she's also doing FL 70.3.

S  1800 Yards  45 mins
Bike 66  3.5 hours
Run 13 2 hours

This was a light week (by design) but next week is my last big week before I start tapering for my marathon.  My plan for this week (in addition to following my run schedule) is to get in the pool three times and on the bike twice.

In other news, I was doing a good job losing weight but seemed to stall out over the holidays.  I figured I would get back on track after all the holiday parties and christmas cookies were gone so I didn't really work about it to much.  Recently, however I've been feeling like things have stalled out and was wondering if I need to make some changes to got get back on track.  I'm definitely not loosing weight as quickly as I was in the fall but I am slowly working my way down again.  I'm very happy to report that I'm under 210 and trending downward!

 

Slow week for me last week, but I haven't really taken an easy week in quite a while.  I proclaim it to be "half marathon recovery week" for here henceforth.  Anyway:



Edited by sand101 2010-02-23 12:25 PM