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 2010-08-09 8:42 PM in reply to: #3033137 |
Champion  8540      the colony texas |  Subject: RE: Ironman Texas : Official Threadjah2212 - 2010-08-09 6:14 PM Gaarryy - 2010-08-09 4:50 PM docshock1964 - 2010-08-09 12:54 PM Any rumors about any pros that are doing the race? some ex biker from austin is all I heard
you're mean. i would love that!! Nah... just making crap up  |
| 2010-08-09 8:54 PM in reply to: #3033362 |
Master 1831 Keller Tx | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas : Official Thread Gaarryy - 2010-08-09 8:42 PM jah2212 - 2010-08-09 6:14 PM Gaarryy - 2010-08-09 4:50 PM docshock1964 - 2010-08-09 12:54 PM Any rumors about any pros that are doing the race? some ex biker from austin is all I heard
you're mean. i would love that!! Nah... just making crap up I'll ask him when I see him in 2 weeks |
| 2010-08-09 10:35 PM in reply to: #3033386 |
Veteran 290 D/FW, TX | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas : Official Thread I'm considering IM New Orleans 70.3 since I did IM Lonestar this year. Loved that race, but just thinking of a venue change. Anyone else? Thoughts? It's the weekend after Lonestar. |
| 2010-08-10 6:52 AM in reply to: #3033549 |
Extreme Veteran 1986 Cypress, TX | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas : Official Thread spuphal - 2010-08-09 10:35 PM I'm considering IM New Orleans 70.3 since I did IM Lonestar this year. Loved that race, but just thinking of a venue change. Anyone else? Thoughts? It's the weekend after Lonestar. I was thinking the same but my Texas 70.3 ended so badly this year (I was the guy who ended up in the hospital for 9 hours after the race if anyone read my race report on Slowtwitch) that I demand redemption. So I must return and conquer.  |
| 2010-08-10 6:57 AM in reply to: #3033549 |
Master 2238 Dallas | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas : Official Thread spuphal - 2010-08-09 10:35 PM I'm considering IM New Orleans 70.3 since I did IM Lonestar this year. Loved that race, but just thinking of a venue change. Anyone else? Thoughts? It's the weekend after Lonestar. The inaugural 70.3 in Puerto Rico is exactly 10 weeks away, perfect to gauge your fitness and in the same kind of climate: hot, humid and maybe some wind, no wetsuit swim. Besides it's during the spring break weekend so you may want to vacation a little. There's some really amazing places to swim at and some epic hilly running to be done as well. There's three flights a day from DFW and the airfare (if purchased far enough) can be as cheap as $300. Old San Juan is beautiful and colonial too. I did New Orleans in April and didn't enjoy it too much. Maybe because I didn't have a good day though... |
| 2010-08-10 7:56 AM in reply to: #2944040 |
Pro 4174 Keller, Texas | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas : Official Thread We will be hitting LoneStar again. Not looking forward to that swim as I realy suffered last year fighting the waves and current but it comes at a good time, and the travel costs are much less than going someplace else. |
| 2010-08-10 8:09 AM in reply to: #2944040 |
Master 1779 | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas : Official Thread We're probably going back to Lone Star too. Keith always puts on a great race. |
| 2010-08-11 9:35 AM in reply to: #2944040 |
New user 141 | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas : Official Thread I was reading a Runner Triathlete News and there was a artical about IMTX. I do not know if any one else looked at this or caught this but the artical said that the bike course will be a 2 loop course that has yet to be finalized and it would encapsulate parts of Iron Star and out to Richards and back to Magnolia.... Hmmmmm just food for thought. What do you think? |
| 2010-08-11 10:04 AM in reply to: #3036735 |
Pro 4174 Keller, Texas | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas : Official Thread will6899 - 2010-08-11 9:35 AM I was reading a Runner Triathlete News and there was a artical about IMTX. I do not know if any one else looked at this or caught this but the artical said that the bike course will be a 2 loop course that has yet to be finalized and it would encapsulate parts of Iron Star and out to Richards and back to Magnolia.... Hmmmmm just food for thought. What do you think? Do you have a link to the article? |
| 2010-08-11 10:23 AM in reply to: #2944040 |
New user 141 | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas : Official Thread It was in Runner Triathlete News this month, I have the magazine but I would think that you can look it up. www.runnertriathletenews.com it is under talking the talk page 6 in the August issue |
| 2010-08-11 10:23 AM in reply to: #3033549 |
Champion 8540 the colony texas | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas : Official Thread spuphal - 2010-08-09 10:35 PM I'm considering IM New Orleans 70.3 since I did IM Lonestar this year. Loved that race, but just thinking of a venue change. Anyone else? Thoughts? It's the weekend after Lonestar. I'm wondering also.. just the time frame of things, For some reason I thought lonestar was going to be a bit close to IMTX to do both, so I'm not sure about a different 1/2 IM that's a week later.. I'll have to check my calendar again.. Whomever posting about Puerto Rico ,, now that sounds like fun |
| 2010-08-11 10:27 AM in reply to: #2944040 |
| Master 1468 Montgomery, Tx | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas : Official Thread I was looking at the Tall Texan 70.3. Looks to be a nice course and 9 weeks out from IMTX. It made a comback last year and I have not found any reviews that would scare me away. |
| 2010-08-11 10:54 AM in reply to: #3036735 |
Elite 3088 Austin, TX Gold member | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas : Official Thread will6899 - 2010-08-11 9:35 AM I was reading a Runner Triathlete News and there was a artical about IMTX. I do not know if any one else looked at this or caught this but the artical said that the bike course will be a 2 loop course that has yet to be finalized and it would encapsulate parts of Iron Star and out to Richards and back to Magnolia.... Hmmmmm just food for thought. What do you think? Not sure where they got their info, but Keith has said it will be a one loop course. I'd give the edge to him.  I've got Lonestar on my schedule as a high intensity training day after a recovery week. Then it'll be 2 more solid volume weeks, 2 weeks of slightly less volume but higher intensity, and then 2 weeks of taper leading to IMTX. Edited by dgunthert 2010-08-11 11:08 AM |
| 2010-08-11 11:13 AM in reply to: #3036966 |
| Master 1468 Montgomery, Tx | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas : Official Thread dgunthert - 2010-08-11 10:54 AM will6899 - 2010-08-11 9:35 AM I was reading a Runner Triathlete News and there was a artical about IMTX. I do not know if any one else looked at this or caught this but the artical said that the bike course will be a 2 loop course that has yet to be finalized and it would encapsulate parts of Iron Star and out to Richards and back to Magnolia.... Hmmmmm just food for thought. What do you think? Not sure where they got their info, but Keith has said it will be a one loop course. I'd give the edge to him. Mr. Wolda, President of The Woodlands, brought his bike to me for a tune up last week. He also said they are working on the one loop course. He said the permits are coming slow because it is 2 counties, 5 precients, DPS, Railroad commision, etc. Does anyone else think the route will leave the woodlands on 1488 then 149 to richards, back down 1486? |
| 2010-08-11 1:03 PM in reply to: #3036887 |
Member 20 | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas : Official Thread Tall Texas. I had a friend do it and said it was harder than St Croix bike course, which is maybe the hardest 70.3 out there. |
| 2010-08-11 3:29 PM in reply to: #2944040 |
Regular 240 Cypress, TX | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas : Official Thread Do you guys think that the Memorial Herman Ironman 70.3 is to close to IMTX? I did it this year and am thinking about doing it again in April. Not sure it that is too close to the Full in May! Any thoughts or recommendations? |
| 2010-08-11 3:46 PM in reply to: #3037896 |
Master 2238 Dallas | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas : Official Thread bridgeland - 2010-08-11 3:29 PM Do you guys think that the Memorial Herman Ironman 70.3 is to close to IMTX? I did it this year and am thinking about doing it again in April. Not sure it that is too close to the Full in May! Any thoughts or recommendations? It's borderline too close to peak for the race, but it depends on your fitness level and how hard you do it too. Consider that it takes about two weeks to recover from a half and a week later you'll start to ramp down AGAIN to taper for IM Texas. If you want to do a good race in the Lonestar 70.3 you'll miss out on your volume, but in the other hand if you go easy enough you might consider the race a long workout and you'll be fine. |
| 2010-08-11 3:48 PM in reply to: #3037896 |
| Master 1468 Montgomery, Tx | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas : Official Thread bridgeland - 2010-08-11 3:29 PM Do you guys think that the Memorial Herman Ironman 70.3 is to close to IMTX? I did it this year and am thinking about doing it again in April. Not sure it that is too close to the Full in May! Any thoughts or recommendations? If I was more experianced and/or had a coach I would think it would be alright. Although I recovered easy after my HIM last year (I ran 18 miles the next Sunday) I do not want to risk injury for my first full edit: I also do not think I can just use Lone Star as a training day; I only know one gear Edited by TriPatrick 2010-08-11 3:49 PM |
| 2010-08-11 4:26 PM in reply to: #3037952 |
Elite 3088 Austin, TX Gold member | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas : Official Thread evillarroel - 2010-08-11 3:46 PM It's borderline too close to peak for the race, but it depends on your fitness level and how hard you do it too. Consider that it takes about two weeks to recover from a half and a week later you'll start to ramp down AGAIN to taper for IM Texas. If you want to do a good race in the Lonestar 70.3 you'll miss out on your volume, but in the other hand if you go easy enough you might consider the race a long workout and you'll be fine. I disagree. Even for my first 1/2 back in 2005, it didn't take me anywhere near 2 weeks to recover, and that was the event I was training for. Now, a 1/2 barely requires more than a day or two before I can get back out and train. Anyone training for IMTX will be doing nearly double the 1/2 volume every weekend. If you race it at all, it'll be a jump in intensity, of course, but should be a major drop in volume. If you're training for IMTX, you may want to make the week after Lonestar a light recovery week, but it shouldn't require any more than that unless you absolutely bury yourself. Even if it takes 2 weeks to recover, that still gives you 2 full weeks to peak (which is the time frame Friel recommends for the peak phase) before beginning a 2 week taper. Gee, that sounds a lot like what I said above. |
| 2010-08-11 5:21 PM in reply to: #2944040 |
Champion 6973 marietta | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas : Official Thread it personal i know, but i didn't need two weeks to recover either. i was lazy as hell and didn't do much but drink beer though. just pulled fink's book off the shelf... intermediate program, week following the half is 14 hours. avg hours per week in that phase is 13. competitive program is 17 hours. avg hours per week in that phase is 15. just one more program but kinda gives a sense... as much as i'd love to come back to texas, lone star is to close for my liking. puerto rico sounds awesome. but man phuket would be great 70.3 PHUKET! how bout that shirt. december might be a bit to early though. Edited by fattyfatfat 2010-08-11 5:22 PM |
| 2010-08-11 5:46 PM in reply to: #3038083 |
Extreme Veteran 567 Kingwood, TX | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas : Official Thread dgunthert - 2010-08-11 4:26 PM evillarroel - 2010-08-11 3:46 PM It's borderline too close to peak for the race, but it depends on your fitness level and how hard you do it too. Consider that it takes about two weeks to recover from a half and a week later you'll start to ramp down AGAIN to taper for IM Texas. If you want to do a good race in the Lonestar 70.3 you'll miss out on your volume, but in the other hand if you go easy enough you might consider the race a long workout and you'll be fine. I disagree. Even for my first 1/2 back in 2005, it didn't take me anywhere near 2 weeks to recover, and that was the event I was training for. Now, a 1/2 barely requires more than a day or two before I can get back out and train. Anyone training for IMTX will be doing nearly double the 1/2 volume every weekend. If you race it at all, it'll be a jump in intensity, of course, but should be a major drop in volume. If you're training for IMTX, you may want to make the week after Lonestar a light recovery week, but it shouldn't require any more than that unless you absolutely bury yourself. Even if it takes 2 weeks to recover, that still gives you 2 full weeks to peak (which is the time frame Friel recommends for the peak phase) before beginning a 2 week taper. Gee, that sounds a lot like what I said above.I agree with Dennis here. In a perfect world 8 weeks between the two would be perfect but we can make 6 Weeks work. Race LoneStar - Take of Monday and use this week as recovery in your plan. Begin Peak Phase for the next 3 weeks and then final 2 Weeks for Taper Personally I am skipping the Huntsville 50K trail run and the full Houston Marathon (hopefully I get in the half) as these longer running races require entirely too much recovery time and will mess with my IMTX training. A HIM on the other hand really doesn't require as much time to recover and add in the fact that most of us are going to be hitting Lonestar right at the end of long Base/Build training then this should be good timing. Just my .02! |
| 2010-08-11 6:50 PM in reply to: #3038190 |
| Veteran 147 TEXAS | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas : Official Thread Just my two cents but There is nothing wrong with doing the Swim/Bike and walk off the course at Lone Star. Admittedly a lot of money to pay for a long training day. BUT you do get to swim in a crowd and get knocked around as well as see how your bike fitness is after a race pace swim. My coach talked me out of doing any marathons prior to IM TX. He felt the recovery from the marathon would put a crimp in the build phase for IM TX. With doing IM AZ in November and as many half marathons I could run he felt surviving the IM Woody run should not be a problem. Will be doing my long runs in the afternoon after Lone Star to practice nutrition and hydration protocol as well sleep in a bit. Again just an opinion. |
| 2010-08-11 9:07 PM in reply to: #2944040 |
Regular 240 Cypress, TX | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas : Official Thread Thanks for all the replies. This is really good info here. I am going to plan and put it on the calender. If anything I will use my race pace for the swim and bike, then take it easy and light on the run. @ Jeff, thanks for the tip on the Houston full marathon, your right, it would take too much recovery time. I will stick with the half if I get a slot. I was looking at the full before this post. |
| 2010-08-13 7:46 AM in reply to: #2944040 |
Extreme Veteran 494 | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas : Official Thread I will be going against the grain and hopefully doing the Houston full marathon. I look at it as a good psychological and fitness gauge for the run portion of IMTX. My plan is to use the week following the marathon as a recovery week, so less intensity and volume during the week and long, steady ride that following weekend. I recovered within a few days after the marathon this year and my plan is to have a much better running base prior to the marathon. Again, this all lies on me getting into the race... Next week will set the gears in motion. |
| 2010-08-13 12:14 PM in reply to: #2944040 |
Regular 288 Doylestown, PA | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas : Official Thread I read through the first 8 pages of this thread and then a few random up to 24... is the consensus this bike route will be a bear or a "breeze"? Speaking in relative terms, of course. Considering a foundation slot. Bummed I didn't decide to do my first IM until 2 weeks ago... after all the general slots were sold out. $1200 is a hit... |
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