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2012-11-15 2:56 PM
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Our place has a constant parade of deer, the 4 ponds within 1/4 mile of us are full of fish,  there is over 20,000 gallons of water in our pool. (yes, I can make it drinkable) I have 2 full chords of firewood, plenty of camping gear, plenty of guns and ammo, and years of practice hunting/butchering/ and preparing animals and fish to eat...along with the knowledge of how to use the equipment I own.  I'm not bugging out anywhere.....a few weeks with no utilities would be an adventure in my own backyard. I'd just have to figure out how to keep from going to work. 



2012-11-15 3:09 PM
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Left Brain - 2012-11-15 1:56 PM

Our place has a constant parade of deer, the 4 ponds within 1/4 mile of us are full of fish,  there is over 20,000 gallons of water in our pool. (yes, I can make it drinkable) I have 2 full chords of firewood, plenty of camping gear, plenty of guns and ammo, and years of practice hunting/butchering/ and preparing animals and fish to eat...along with the knowledge of how to use the equipment I own.  I'm not bugging out anywhere.....a few weeks with no utilities would be an adventure in my own backyard. I'd just have to figure out how to keep from going to work. 

Being from Colorado, you hear this a lot... but when everyone else has the same idea, how long will the deer last? Seriously, when there is no food supply for an extended period, natural populations will not sustain us for long.

2012-11-15 3:24 PM
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TeamAngel - 2012-11-15 1:48 PM

I promise to buy you a beer someday.

Well it's been nearly 12 years since my last one, but I do appreciate the sentiment. I do enjoy a good cup of coffee though. Wink

 

I really loved that movie "The Road". Really interesting, and that was more the "every man for himself" type scenario. Seemed more "post acute melt down". Like immediately following.

And I really loved the movie "The Postman". The story line was cool to a point, but it was more interesting of small bands of people joining up and "villages"like things had normalized and it was probably 5-10 years later.

That TV show had HUGE potential.. but it just turned into more personal character show about the people and not so much the situation. That seemed like a the first year or two.... and yes things were dire and no communications and tough decisions needed to be made. Weary of outsiders, dwindling supplies.... man so much fertile ground there. Too bad it was canceled.

I think there would be a "forming up to wait it out"... then people will start starving... weak, sick and old go first... things will get desperate, lots of folks won't make it, but in the end there will most certainly be people left. I don't know how many, it depends. Meteor induced Winter, solar storm takes out all the transformers, pandemic, super volcano such as Yellowstone disrupting the global food supply and ability to grow crops... depends.

2012-11-15 3:32 PM
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powerman - 2012-11-15 2:27 PM
TeamAngel - 2012-11-15 1:06 PM

A.  In the event of calamity, the preppers I know would help others, and I know a lot of them, even the ones that did not prep prior.  I have in my preps extras to help others who didn't take the advantage before hand.  Learning how to prep has actually brought me to helping emergency organizations, and providing education (free) at local libraries.  There are a lot of so called preppers that are taking advantage of any type of doomsday events by jacking prices of mre's, medical gear, weapons, shelter reinforcements etc.  Take a look at the events of Sandy and see how much prices in emergency gear has skyrocketed from vendors.  Those are your real enemies taking advantage of people when they are down.

B.  You bring a good point of backing a survivalist into a bunker.  Thus, if the survivalist was well prepared, they would have thought about this and would be able to see someone coming from miles away (even at night).  And if said prepper were to know of your presence, hopefully their tactics of inline traps, guard dogs, sniper locations, electric wired fences, concealment shelters, and secondary pillboxes didn't stop someone, then with all pleasure, fart over the hole and see how loud that last fart sounded and smelled.  ;-)

 

The bunker I was referring to was a particular individual that had a lot of stores. He was going through his plan of how defensible his home was... sniper positions, barricaded, fortified positions and so forth... but his retreat was his bunker... so if all that didn't work he was going to fall back to a hole in the ground with a ventilation pipe... that is not a defensible position.

Obviously some sort of bug out shelter, hidden and remote, for you to wait something out, well that is different.

And with most stuff, lines are being blurred here with "pepper". Any sort of disaster preparedness is a good idea. Can you make it a week until help comes from a hurricane, ice storm, volcano???

And most of this country has to deal with such emergencies... tornado alley, East coast and Gulf hurricanes, Earth quakes in California, Ice storms in the mid west and South. Epic blizzards in the North East... in Colorado... we have no such things... a few blizzards have shut down the city for 3 days, but I can still get around.

There used to be "survivalists"... well in that respect, knowing how to "survive" in a number of situations is good sound knowledge. Knowing how to defend your self, live off the land, how to navigate not get lost... that stuff is cool.

A "Doomsday Prepper", preparing for some sort of doomsday scenario... ya OK. Sorry, if some sort of "doomsday" scenario happens... well good luck. Yellowstone will blow again, and most America will be dead. The worst thing that can happen right now is a severe mass coronal ejection from the Sun... that has happened and will happen again. It will knock us back to the stone age. No power for years, no food production, no water. Half the planets population will die in a  couple of months. The other half probably won't make it a year. Good luck preparing for that.

But nuclear holocaust, small pox, global pandemic, end of days type stuff... what ever. Life is for living. When it's over, it's over.

 

 actually the one i was referring to, had no actual defenses, against an attack,  his defense was knowing his property, , {quite large, forget the acreage,} so when he would be attacked or have invaders he would be out of there before the actual attack.  hiding in different places until they left,  or after a couple of days the option of doing selective attacks on the group if he had favorable conditions.  

 

2012-11-15 3:44 PM
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Gaarryy - 2012-11-15 2:32 PM

 actually the one i was referring to, had no actual defenses, against an attack,  his defense was knowing his property, , {quite large, forget the acreage,} so when he would be attacked or have invaders he would be out of there before the actual attack.  hiding in different places until they left,  or after a couple of days the option of doing selective attacks on the group if he had favorable conditions.  

 

Lot's a people have been in the military. I was not a grunt. Lots of people right now have been in combat. We understand combat. Defensible positions, taking and holding ground, plans of attack... but YOU against the world does not work out that great. That's fine if you like to fantasize about being Rambo taking out a small town, and I'm cool with actual Rambo's being able to do that... but bubba 100 pounds overweight taking about how he is going to take on the world and defeat all comers... ya, again... good luck with that.

Knowing his land and setting up different traps and defenses to fall back to is certainly good planning. But it depends on who you are dealing with... hoodlums or committed people willing to put up a fight.

At some point, if you loose your strong hold... then you will be no different that anyone else. You will be bound by the same rules as anyone else... can I afford to attack, can I risk my supplies on an uncertain future? Do I try to retake my house, or do I move on to a weaker target? How exposed am I, how much do I need to shift to keep moving, or digging in? Point is... all bets are off.



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2012-11-15 5:49 PM
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My guess is that they didn't film any episodes to air after December 21, 2012.



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Left Brain - 2012-11-15 1:56 PM

Our place has a constant parade of deer, the 4 ponds within 1/4 mile of us are full of fish,  there is over 20,000 gallons of water in our pool. (yes, I can make it drinkable) I have 2 full chords of firewood, plenty of camping gear, plenty of guns and ammo, and years of practice hunting/butchering/ and preparing animals and fish to eat...along with the knowledge of how to use the equipment I own.  I'm not bugging out anywhere.....a few weeks with no utilities would be an adventure in my own backyard. I'd just have to figure out how to keep from going to work. 

Being from Colorado, you hear this a lot... but when everyone else has the same idea, how long will the deer last? Seriously, when there is no food supply for an extended period, natural populations will not sustain us for long.

My wife keeps two horses.........they'll eat ok with some seasoning. Cool

2012-11-15 11:42 PM
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Gaarryy - 2012-11-15 2:32 PM

 actually the one i was referring to, had no actual defenses, against an attack,  his defense was knowing his property, , {quite large, forget the acreage,} so when he would be attacked or have invaders he would be out of there before the actual attack.  hiding in different places until they left,  or after a couple of days the option of doing selective attacks on the group if he had favorable conditions.  

 

Lot's a people have been in the military. I was not a grunt. Lots of people right now have been in combat. We understand combat. Defensible positions, taking and holding ground, plans of attack... but YOU against the world does not work out that great. That's fine if you like to fantasize about being Rambo taking out a small town, and I'm cool with actual Rambo's being able to do that... but bubba 100 pounds overweight taking about how he is going to take on the world and defeat all comers... ya, again... good luck with that.

Knowing his land and setting up different traps and defenses to fall back to is certainly good planning. But it depends on who you are dealing with... hoodlums or committed people willing to put up a fight.

At some point, if you loose your strong hold... then you will be no different that anyone else. You will be bound by the same rules as anyone else... can I afford to attack, can I risk my supplies on an uncertain future? Do I try to retake my house, or do I move on to a weaker target? How exposed am I, how much do I need to shift to keep moving, or digging in? Point is... all bets are off.

Closet prepper. Tongue out

2012-11-16 1:53 AM
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Left Brain - 2012-11-15 10:42 PM
powerman - 2012-11-15 3:44 PM
Gaarryy - 2012-11-15 2:32 PM

 actually the one i was referring to, had no actual defenses, against an attack,  his defense was knowing his property, , {quite large, forget the acreage,} so when he would be attacked or have invaders he would be out of there before the actual attack.  hiding in different places until they left,  or after a couple of days the option of doing selective attacks on the group if he had favorable conditions.  

 

Lot's a people have been in the military. I was not a grunt. Lots of people right now have been in combat. We understand combat. Defensible positions, taking and holding ground, plans of attack... but YOU against the world does not work out that great. That's fine if you like to fantasize about being Rambo taking out a small town, and I'm cool with actual Rambo's being able to do that... but bubba 100 pounds overweight taking about how he is going to take on the world and defeat all comers... ya, again... good luck with that.

Knowing his land and setting up different traps and defenses to fall back to is certainly good planning. But it depends on who you are dealing with... hoodlums or committed people willing to put up a fight.

At some point, if you loose your strong hold... then you will be no different that anyone else. You will be bound by the same rules as anyone else... can I afford to attack, can I risk my supplies on an uncertain future? Do I try to retake my house, or do I move on to a weaker target? How exposed am I, how much do I need to shift to keep moving, or digging in? Point is... all bets are off.

Closet prepper. Tongue out

Touche'. when will the horse be ready. Tongue out

2012-11-16 11:31 AM
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http://internationalpreppersnetwork.net/

I'm a member here.  for the most part everyone is pretty normal but there are some crazies there too....  Great info on food storage, etc.

 

The show isn't generally well received by anyone in the prepping community.  It's just hype and drama to sell the show. It puts responsible "prepping" in a bad light and makes anyone who prepares for a disaster look nuts and paranoid.  There ARE lots of those types around.  But for the most part, preppers just get ready for tornados, snow storms, floods, etc..  The Gov't of Canada says to have 3 days of supplies ready. Thats prepping...its being smart.

My favourite episode:

The fat chick who thought she was Laura Croft from Tomb Raiders.   LMAO!

http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/channel/doomsday-preppers/galleries/meet-the-preppers/at/megan-hurwitt-the-young-urban-prepper-42386/

 

 

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TheCrownsOwn - 2012-11-16 10:31 AM

http://internationalpreppersnetwork.net/

I'm a member here.  for the most part everyone is pretty normal but there are some crazies there too....  Great info on food storage, etc.

 

The show isn't generally well received by anyone in the prepping community.  It's just hype and drama to sell the show. It puts responsible "prepping" in a bad light and makes anyone who prepares for a disaster look nuts and paranoid.  There ARE lots of those types around.  But for the most part, preppers just get ready for tornados, snow storms, floods, etc..  The Gov't of Canada says to have 3 days of supplies ready. Thats prepping...its being smart.

My favourite episode:

The fat chick who thought she was Laura Croft from Tomb Raiders.   LMAO!

http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/channel/doomsday-preppers/galleries/meet-the-preppers/at/megan-hurwitt-the-young-urban-prepper-42386/

 

 

That sounds perfectly reasonable... but that would probably make a boring TV show. Wink



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