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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I love droping 'that'(ok, really anyone) person and I usually don't hide the fact. ![]() Then again I'm very competitive. |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I can get like this too - all in goo danture of course. There are some people in my tri club that are at about the same level as I so whenever we are in a race together I always look out for them. It makes me a better racer because I push a little harder than I would otherwise.
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() meepx2 - 2008-08-11 4:38 PM It seems unfair to race someone if they don't know you're competing strictly to beat them. You should make it interesting and issue a formal challenge. At any rate, it seems like training with her bugs you. So avoid her if possible, find ways to change the conversation, or tell her directly that her personal superiority complex bugs the s.h.i.t. out of you. Also, it doesn't make sense to set a goal as, "be faster than person x". It's not specific enough. You need to have definitive goals to see that you are improving. Let your victory over her come through your specific goals, don't make beating her your primary goal. I'm not sure her person isn't already competing - even without a formal challenge. I would approach the challenge at its own level, and push when I could, especially if I knew I had at least 5 minutes more than her. I have couple friends that I've ridden with, and I take that approach. If I know I can go 5 more minutes at pace X, I do it. When they call "Uncle" ahead of me, I look strong. (Full disclosure - after I've done this to them a couple of times, I confess how close I was to calling it a day to them. No hard feelings, and we both improve as a result). One of them can totally smoke me going uphill, but I have slightly more endurance than him, so I can go a little longer, forcing him to call for the break ahead of me. We are both getting better in our respective weak areas, so the competition is good for us. OTOH, we actually like each other, and aren't being underhanded (mostly) in beating the other guy. |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() kjlee8 - 2008-08-11 8:57 AM - I know I can kick her @ss and I want to hand it to her!!! Is that wrong? It totally goes against everything I believe in and the reasons I do triathlons, but I just can't help it. I feel like someone needs to knock her down a notch. I'm not competitive at all. But if I were... [insert malicious laugh here] If you really want to knock her down a couple notches and you KNOW you can take her, set up some sprint zones prior to the ride. When everyone gathers and discusses the route, mention that you'd like to add in 3 or 4 sprints... just to change up the ride a bit and give you a chance to add something extra to your workout. We've done something like this in our cycling club, but it has nothing to do with knocking someone down in their ego... it's strictly for fun. Set one sprint to be someplace on a flat stretch where you can REALLY push... maybe approaching an intersection with a "Stop Ahead" sign as the finish line. Set another sprint at the top of a hill. Put the last somewhere else that you know you can hammer. Make sure that prior to the ride EVERYONE (especially the person that you want to notch down a bit) is clear on how the sprints will work so there is NO complaining or slighting the winner. Up the ante by offering a small prize to the winner of the most sprints... maybe even something as simple as a frozen Snickers bar as a post ride reward. And when you ride, make sure you do your dern best to take the sprints. When you regroup with your riding buddies, assuming you're the winner, take the frozen Snickers bar out and take a bit ol' bite out of it. Savor it. Devour it. And enjoy watching her take the drive of shame towards home. She'll probably stop by a convenience store to get a Snickers bar to make herself feel better. HA! -Joel |
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Member![]() ![]() | ![]() meepx2 - 2008-08-11 4:38 PM It seems unfair to race someone if they don't know you're competing strictly to beat them. You should make it interesting and issue a formal challenge. When I race, it is generally to beat other people. That's why I race. If I wasn't interested in going up against other people, I wouldn't bother to pin a number on. I'd stay home and train by myself. Also, it doesn't make sense to set a goal as, "be faster than person x". It's not specific enough. You need to have definitive goals to see that you are improving. Let your victory over her come through your specific goals, don't make beating her your primary goal. Hmm...I dunno. Beating a specific person is a real specific goal. I make beating EVERYONE my primary goal - I just don't always meet that goal. |
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Regular![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() TXGreyhoundGuy - I love the sprint zone idea!!! I'm not the fastest in the group (not by a long shot) so this idea will really knock her down a notch...not only will she get her @ss handed to her by me, but likely by more then half the group. It will be a great way for everyone to have a little fun too! Maybe I'll be the one stopping for a snickers bar though....but only 'cause I'm already having a major craving for one!!! Mmmm...frozen Snickers ![]() Edited by kjlee8 2008-08-12 8:55 AM |
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Member ![]() ![]() | ![]() I'm going to voice a slightly different opnion. I was running with a local running club for a while. They are mostly fitness type runners, some are competitive and do race. They mostly don't have the background or training that I do, in race results I'm typically faster than everyone there, not bragging, it is just not a really fast club (in other clubs I'm one of the slower guys). I started going when I was recovering from an injury or wanted a relatively easy day. I thought it would be a stress free way to get my fitness back. Much to my surprise on the weekly runs, they'd start racing and trying to drop one another, this was not what I expected. I couldn't help myself and went with them. The result was I'd end up with a day of junk training, too hard to call an easy day and not precises enough for a speed day. I haven't been back in a while. I instead run with a group of much faster runners, but when training stick to training. In training, I want to feel like a member of the pack, not pretator or prey. In races of course all bets are off, and I encourage you to put down the hammer. |
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