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2011-01-05 6:51 PM
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Noz - 2011-01-05 12:58 PM oh man, closed already?  i can't get in on this group and bryan's sage like wisdom?  

learn up kids.  this man knows how to get himself across the line.  have fun! 

 

If I thought I could teach you anything you would be more than welcome.  Actually, you are more than welcome.  Pop in every now and then and share the wisdom a true elite level athlete can share.



2011-01-05 6:53 PM
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How is everyone doing.  Our group is starting off kind of slow but I'm sure it will get legs soon.  Let's throw a question out there for everyone to respond to.

Q.  What are your work-out goals for this weekend?

My answer would be getting in a nice easy zone 1-2 work-out in all three disciplines.  Long and easy run, long and easy bike and maybe a little more intense swim.

2011-01-05 7:20 PM
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mndiver - 2011-01-05 7:53 PM

Q.  What are your work-out goals for this weekend?



My son will be visiting so my weekend will be light. I plan to get in 500-1000 yds in the pool and possibly and early morning run on Sat or Sun on the rail trail. The swim will be the bane of my training. I find that I have to take numerous breaks to complete my distance goals. But I'm sure it will come to me eventually.



nice easy zone 1-2 work-out



Could you explain the Zones or link a good article? Thanks

Josh

2011-01-05 7:53 PM
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Is there a way to sticky our forum? or subscribe to it? Just curious since that would be a lot easier not that there are a ton of threads to scroll through. Thanks.
2011-01-05 8:03 PM
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I'll do my run on Fri and Sun prescribed by the current 5k plan I'm on.  I'm stoked it should get to the mid 30s this weekend, better than the run I did at 14F last weekend!

mntbiker I'm with you, is there a better way to fast track to this thread?

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2011-01-05 8:30 PM
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Zones.  There a lot of really good articles on zones but I will give you the crib notes.  Zones are as follows.

z1- Very easy.  Not much more than a walk.  Active Recovery

z2- Extensive Endurance.  This is where a lot of your work should be.  As you get more fit this is a pace you should feel like you could hold for a very long time.  Ironman racing zone.

z3-Intensive endurance.  Heart rate is still in line but you could hold it for longer efforts.  Half marathon, etc

z4- Threshhold training.  This is where it starts to hurt.  5k, 10k pace.  I will explain how to figure out threshold shortly.

z5- Anaerobic training.  Very difficult, hard, full blast training.

 

Almost all of your training should be in z2 and to a lesser degree zone 3.  Most training should be easy enough to stay focussed and get better.  Then, when you go hard, go HARD but give yourself time to recover when done.  Unfortunately most people spend the majority of the time in zone 3 and zone 4.  Instead of making hard workouts hard and easy ones easy they have all work-outs somewhere in the middle.  This is not the way to get better for long.  So how do you find out where your zones are?  Easy, well not really.  You are going to have to be willing to hurt for about 30 minutes and will need to be able to monitor your heart rate.

We will go over testing procedures in tomorrows thread.



2011-01-05 8:30 PM
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woops.



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2011-01-05 8:33 PM
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mntbiker21 - 2011-01-05 7:53 PM Is there a way to sticky our forum? or subscribe to it? Just curious since that would be a lot easier not that there are a ton of threads to scroll through. Thanks.

 

Let me see if I can figure that one out.  I think there is a way to post a link onto your blog page to this site.  I'll ask around.

2011-01-05 8:40 PM
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This weekend I'm doing the Disney half marathon. It will be a PR since it'll be my first half marathon! Woot for PRs!! Next week I plan on mapping out the races I will sign up for and start my triathlon training. I'm in the process of moving, so I need to find a new gym too. That will be something I take care of soon so I can start swimming again.
2011-01-05 8:46 PM
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mntbiker21 - 2011-01-05 7:53 PM Is there a way to sticky our forum? or subscribe to it? Just curious since that would be a lot easier not that there are a ton of threads to scroll through. Thanks.

 

Got it figured out and it's quite easy. 

1.  Go into forum and "copy and paste" our thread.

2.  Go to your own blog and hit the "edit" button on the top part of your blog.

3.  Hit paste.  There it is, no more searching. 

I did it on my blog and it took about 2 seconds. 

2011-01-05 8:47 PM
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morrisel - 2011-01-05 8:40 PM This weekend I'm doing the Disney half marathon. It will be a PR since it'll be my first half marathon! Woot for PRs!! Next week I plan on mapping out the races I will sign up for and start my triathlon training. I'm in the process of moving, so I need to find a new gym too. That will be something I take care of soon so I can start swimming again.

Best of luck Erin.  Have a great time!!



2011-01-05 9:33 PM
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mntbiker21 - 2011-01-05 7:53 PM Is there a way to sticky our forum? or subscribe to it? Just curious since that would be a lot easier not that there are a ton of threads to scroll through. Thanks.

 

Got it figured out and it's quite easy. 

1.  Go into forum and "copy and paste" our thread.

2.  Go to your own blog and hit the "edit" button on the top part of your blog.

3.  Hit paste.  There it is, no more searching. 

I did it on my blog and it took about 2 seconds. 



I might have a better way to do it. We used this last year in my mentor group. 

How to add a table to your dashboard  (the top part of your BT training log):

1. Copy the HTML code that I will paste.  

2. Click on "Settings" at the top of your screen.

3. Click on "Training Log Customization" tab.

4. Click on "Dashboard" subtab.

5. Paste the table where you want it to go.

6. Click "Update Dashboard". 

7. Go to your training blog and check the table.

If it shows up, you're done!  If it looks like HTML, follow this additional step.

8. Go back to the "Dashboard" subtab following steps 2 - 4.  Now, the table should look like a table.  Click "Update Dashboard" again.


Let me know if you get stuck or anything is confusing!! 
2011-01-05 9:33 PM
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<table cellspacing="1" cellpadding="1" border="6" bgcolor="blue" background="http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/photos/get-photo.asp?photoid=115650"><tbody><tr><td valign="bottom" align="center" style="width: 214px"><p align="center"><strong><a target="_blank" href="http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=236974#M2561772"><font color="#000066">mndiver’s Mentor Group<br /></font></a><hr><a target="_blank" href="http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/training/index.asp?memberid=36239"><font color="#000066">mndiver - Bryan</font></a><br /><a target="_blank" href="http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/training/index.asp?memberid=219188"><font color="#000066">mtnbiker21 - Josh</font></a><br /><a target="_blank" href="http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/training/index.asp?memberid=209876"><font color="#000066">katie575 - Katie</font></a><br /><a target="_blank" href="http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/training/index.asp?memberid=74213"><font color="#000066">evilqn - Pam</font></a><br /><a target="_blank" href="http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/training/index.asp?memberid=220040"><font color="#000066">bikingcelticmusic - Amber</font></a><br /><a target="_blank" href="http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/training/index.asp?memberid=213713"><font color="#000066">lcogginsjf - Larry</font></a><br /><a target="_blank" href="http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/training/index.asp?memberid=133108"><font color="#000066">biafragirl - Ony</font></a><br /><a target="_blank" href="http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/training/index.asp?memberid=220320"><font color="#000066">nicole2011 - Nicole</font></a><br /><a target="_blank" href="http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/training/index.asp?memberid=217906"><font color="#000066">tstick14 - Todd</font></a><br /><a target="_blank" href="http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/training/index.asp?memberid=218736"><font color="#000066">rkennan - Becki</font></a><br /><a target="_blank" href="http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/training/index.asp?memberid=167871"><font color="#000066">morrisel - Erin</font></a><br /><a target="_blank" href="http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/training/index.asp?memberid=191577"><font color="#000066">bmeere - unnamed</font></a><br/><br tbody></table>
2011-01-05 10:37 PM
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Thanks Josh
2011-01-05 11:15 PM
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Good luck in your race Erin!
This weekend I will walk on Sat - after I shovel the predicted 6 inches of additional snow they are forecasting - and bike (ugh) on Sun.  
Its only been a few days and although I'm still figuring this site out I am really enjoying it and find this whole mentoring / group thing to be very motivational. Thanks Bryan for taking this project on!
Pam 

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2011-01-06 11:19 AM
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I linked the thread the way mndiver said to do it (worked), Morrisel I tried it your way but I don't have a "dashboard" tab in my settings.  Possibly an option available to those using plans other than free only?


2011-01-06 12:45 PM
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Todd, There are 2 ways to get to your dashboard (I'm a free member as well). The first - at the top of your log there is a small open area that has an RSS button and edit. That "edit" button, edits your dashboard. Or the Second - click settings at the top of the screen then "Training Blog Custimization" Tab then "Dashboard" Tab.

Hope this helps. It took me a minute to find it as well.

Josh

EDIT NOTE: morrisel's html will replace the link that you posted the way Bryan told us. It goes in the same spot.

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Josh

Found it after I placed the link in using the "edit" button.  was looking at the wrong training tab Sealed 
2011-01-06 5:33 PM
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After the talk of Lactate Threshold yesterday I decided to test myself today.  The protocal is pretty much the same for biker or run.  You need a heart rate monitor that gives you average heart rate and a willingness to suffer.

You should not do this test until you have been training long enough to have a good idea of pace and can go hard for 30-40 minutes.

Start off either with the ride or the run and do a good warm-up.  Start easy and work up a slow sweat after about 10 minutes or more the hard stuff starts.  You need to figure out a pace you think is your MAX pace for 30 minutes.  Start running or riding at that pace.  It should be hard and you should be nervous.  Nervous that you can't hold this pace but even more that maybe you can but it's going to hurt.  After 10 minutes hit the "start" botton on your heart rate monitor.  Now you are on the clock.  You have to continue at this pace for the next 20 minutes.  Do your best to hold it the whole way.  If you have energy left over in the end you went too easy.  If you can't make it the full time you went too hard.  Make sure to hit "stop" on monitor after 20 minutes.  The monitor will give you your average heart rate.  This number is your Lactate Threshold or (LT)

So what do the numbers mean and what do you do with it?  More to come later tonight.

2011-01-06 7:55 PM
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Now we have our Lactate Threshold (LT) what can you do with it?  BT has a great tool for this also.  If you look on the far side of your blog you will see something titled HR zones.  You can go into this area and enter different numbers from different tests.  They have entries for swim, bike and run.  I like to use the Lactate Threshold test so I simply enter my number into the box and it spits out heart rate ranges for zones 1-5.  Now that I have these numbers and a heart rate monitor I can better dial in my training to give me the best results.  Good luckand I hope this helps people out.

2011-01-06 8:44 PM
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Any chance one of you has a sprint training plan that can be uploaded to this site? I know this kind of bypasses being a paid member but I was just curious before I go about manually entering one.


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Hi Josh- 
I tried to post this before so I apologize if it shows up twice......2 books if you dont find a program you like here: Eric Harr's Triathlon Training in 4 hrs per Week and Joe Friel's Your First Triathlon are books that I have read and both have suggested plans. Maybe you can find a program there and ask Bryan what he thinks. 
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2011-01-07 7:08 PM
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Thanks Pam. I had read that on your "inspire"


Bryan, I was unable to enter my LT. I will look again later tonight.

**Edit Note** Nvm Bryan, I don't know how I overlooked it. I found it now. Thanks again for the info.

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2011-01-07 8:20 PM
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Bryan,

Now that I have done the LT and entered it and realize that I probably pushed too hard today... lol. How often should I retest my LT?

Secondly, can the LT that I established during my bike be used for the other sports? Or do I need to test in each?
2011-01-07 8:32 PM
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Alright, I have another question. How and when should I start "training" for transitions? I don't think my chafed fat is going to be happy about climbing out of the water and jumping on a bike.... lol.

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