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 2016-12-14 2:35 PM in reply to: mdg2003 |
Veteran  1019  St. Louis |  Subject: RE: Social SecurityOriginally posted by mdg2003 Originally posted by chirunner134 I can state with 100% certainty that there are 500K entry level job openings in this country right now. They can go to work and rent their own housing for the most part. Please don't anyone bother posting the excuse that they need an address or contact phone to get hired. I rarely go by a busy intersection that has beggars on each corner that I don't see at least one of those folks looking at a text or talking on the phone. There are a lot of them that simply aren't capable of functioning at any level in society. If we really want to help that segment, we need to institutionalize and start treating their various ailments, MH issues and addictions. I'd much rather see my government squander my SS contributions helping the truly helpless and not buying steaks n' beer for Mike's useless neighbor. Or my useless cousin who has been scamming the system since the day he learned to scam the system from my useless uncle. It's time for useless people to be held accountable for their own welfare and time for us to help the ones that really need help. Both sides of the aisle have been clamoring about for years and not doing a thing to correct this problem. Maybe we can send them all south to build a wall or something... Originally posted by Rogillio So here is a completely off topic post......but does not deserve it's own thread. After the hurricane ripped thru Haiti several years ago and the US was spending billions to build housing......I though of this idea. Send down empty shipping containers! Have a guy with a blow torch cut a few holes for window....and give them out. Figure out how to anchor the container and you have a permeant house for a Haitian family. And if you looked at what they were living in before hurricane blew it away you'd see a storage container is a HUGE improvement. $1,200 per house. 1 billion dollars buys them 833,000 houses. Ok, actually I was thinking about getting a contract with the gov to supply houses...... The base model is just the can. Add in a toilet, shower, kitchen and couple of interior walls......$2,000. And you could house 6 people. also solution for the 500,000 homeless in America? Why don't you report them for fraud to SSA? |
| 2016-12-14 2:51 PM in reply to: Bob Loblaw |
| Deep in the Heart of Texas | Subject: RE: Social Security snitches get stitches. |
| 2016-12-14 3:17 PM in reply to: Hook'em |
Veteran 1019 St. Louis | Subject: RE: Social Security Originally posted by Hook'em snitches get stitches. Lol, I guess. I'm just not sure what people want the government to do. If the paperwork is all filed correctly and a doc signed off on some fake back pain, how is SSA supposed to know it's fraud short of hiring thousands and thousands of investigators to go running around the country trying to figure out who's cheating the government and who's legit. So instead they set up a hotline. You can even call in anonymously. It's like getting upset at the police for not arresting the guy that's always selling drugs at the end of your street but never actually calling the cops to let them know he's down there selling meth. How does that PSA go, see something say something. |
| 2016-12-14 3:19 PM in reply to: Bob Loblaw |
Pro 9391    Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: Social Security Originally posted by Bob Loblaw Originally posted by Hook'em snitches get stitches. Lol, I guess. I'm just not sure what people want the government to do. If the paperwork is all filed correctly and a doc signed off on some fake back pain, how is SSA supposed to know it's fraud short of hiring thousands and thousands of investigators to go running around the country trying to figure out who's cheating the government and who's legit. So instead they set up a hotline. You can even call in anonymously. It's like getting upset at the police for not arresting the guy that's always selling drugs at the end of your street but never actually calling the cops to let them know he's down there selling meth. How does that PSA go, see something say something. My personal opinion is that we just need to set the thresholds and put checks/balances in ahead of time to reduce the fraud. There's always going to be fraud, but when the threshold is so low, and the penalties for committing such fraud are virtually non-existent there's almost an encouragement to commit the fraud. |
| 2016-12-14 4:55 PM in reply to: tuwood |
Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: Social Security I don't know how people get away with fraud like that. I know damn well the first time I tried something like that they'd lock me up and pitch the key......God hates me.  |
| 2016-12-14 6:32 PM in reply to: Bob Loblaw |
Pro 6838 Tejas | Subject: RE: Social Security Originally posted by Bob Loblaw Originally posted by Hook'em snitches get stitches. Lol, I guess. I'm just not sure what people want the government to do. If the paperwork is all filed correctly and a doc signed off on some fake back pain, how is SSA supposed to know it's fraud short of hiring thousands and thousands of investigators to go running around the country trying to figure out who's cheating the government and who's legit. So instead they set up a hotline. You can even call in anonymously. It's like getting upset at the police for not arresting the guy that's always selling drugs at the end of your street but never actually calling the cops to let them know he's down there selling meth. How does that PSA go, see something say something. Somehow you've twisted it to where it's my fault. That's part of the problem too. Enabling and making excuses for these people. The problem is so many are reliant on the 'hand out' not 'hand up' mentality role of government. You've fallen into the trap by suggesting that I'm somehow responsible for their behavior. Using your own thought process here; Bob, you're guilty of fraud because you neglected to ask for names and addresses to report this fraud of which you are now aware of. |
| 2016-12-14 6:45 PM in reply to: Bob Loblaw |
Pro 6838 Tejas | Subject: RE: Social Security Originally posted by Bob Loblaw Why don't you report them for fraud to SSA? They have been reported. Claims revoked and investigated for fraud. Only to get another job, get injured again and repeat the cycle. My father even took him to court because he wiped out his Dad's bank account. My father won the suit and has a judgement against this sh*thead for the entire amount. Problem is, he's living so far below the poverty line, there isn't anything to take back. He never learned to earn, save and improve his branch of the family tree. He's dependent on someone feed, clothe, provide medical care and shelter for his entire family. His father (my Dad's brother) was the same way his entire life and now it's a multi generational problem. No doubt he'll teach his kids the same. |
| 2016-12-14 6:47 PM in reply to: Left Brain |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: Social Security Originally posted by Left Brain I don't know how people get away with fraud like that. I know damn well the first time I tried something like that they'd lock me up and pitch the key......God hates me. There's a weird dynamic when it comes to crime. The poor seem to get hammered when it comes to criminal (assault, robbery, drugs) and the rich seem to get away with a lot more. Then when it comes to more civil crimes the poor get a pass and the rich get hammered whenever they try taking advantage of stuff (tax deductions, writing off the car, etc). (I'm generalizing of course) |
| 2016-12-16 1:59 PM in reply to: mdg2003 |
Veteran 1019 St. Louis | Subject: RE: Social Security Originally posted by mdg2003 Originally posted by Bob Loblaw Somehow you've twisted it to where it's my fault. That's part of the problem too. Enabling and making excuses for these people. The problem is so many are reliant on the 'hand out' not 'hand up' mentality role of government. You've fallen into the trap by suggesting that I'm somehow responsible for their behavior. Using your own thought process here; Bob, you're guilty of fraud because you neglected to ask for names and addresses to report this fraud of which you are now aware of. Originally posted by Hook'em snitches get stitches. Lol, I guess. I'm just not sure what people want the government to do. If the paperwork is all filed correctly and a doc signed off on some fake back pain, how is SSA supposed to know it's fraud short of hiring thousands and thousands of investigators to go running around the country trying to figure out who's cheating the government and who's legit. So instead they set up a hotline. You can even call in anonymously. It's like getting upset at the police for not arresting the guy that's always selling drugs at the end of your street but never actually calling the cops to let them know he's down there selling meth. How does that PSA go, see something say something. So I went to the website to report them and it turns out that telling them the useless cousin and uncle of mdg2003 from Tejas were committing fraud wasn't quite enough information to launch an investigation with. Oh well. I never suggested what your cousin is doing was your fault or that you were in any way responsible for their behavior. All I did was ask why you wouldn't report them? Last time he was reported, he lost his benefits and had to go get a job. Awesome. But if you're going to say that enabling and making excuses for these people is part of the problem, well.....I got some bad news for you. You're literally looking the other way instead of doing something about it. That's kind of the definition of enabling. If it bugs you that much, do something about it. Or don't. I really don't care. |
| 2016-12-16 2:36 PM in reply to: Bob Loblaw |
Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: Social Security There are numerous reports from anonymous sources within un-named groups that Russia supplies doctors to write fraudulent reports to SSA. |
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