Newbz'z summer mentor group is FULL!!!! (Page 20)

newbz - 2010-04-15 12:48 AM In short, yes you can. Assuming you pay attention to your legs, there hsould be no issues here. biking, ie more like swimming in this respect, that you can start doing faster stuff MUCH sooner than running, just not as much all the time.

newbz - 2010-04-14 7:38 PM bullfrog when i can afford (alchol based so not greasy), outside of that, whatever is on sale, normally SPF 30.

reid15 - 2010-04-14 5:46 PM



Does that burn when it gets in your eyes? I hate that.

RogerWilco - 2010-04-14 2:37 AM  I think I need more drills but I do not know which drills to use. Of course they may change according to my stroke, so I'm posting my last swim recording again in case you may want to watch it: my swimming video

Thanks in advance for ANY help.

newbz - 2010-04-14 9:37 PM you have a YMCA around? In center city philly mine is 35 a month

jgerbodegrant - 2010-04-14 9:38 PM



Yeah, dude, the place is pretty beat though. Don't get me wrong, I'm still going to go if it's the only place.

jgerbodegrant - 2010-04-15 6:37 AM
Okay...so I watched your video and you actually look like you know what you're doing!  Here are a couple things.  Keep in mind that they are very minor.  I list them at the time they occur in the video:

0:15 - You are sweeping wide with your hands after the finish.  You hand should follow your body and then proceed straight forward in front of the shoulder.
0:34 - Your right hand is noticeably gliding into the water and in front of your head

Just a couple things to work on:
You need to finish your stroke.  As you watch your video, you'll notice that your arm never straigthens out at the end of the pull.  That is a very strong part of the stroke and I'm as guilty as anyone when it comes to the finish.  That should be a big push using your triceps.
2.  You are very consistent and seem to be going straight, but you're not being very efficient.  You're averaging around 24 strokes per length, which some people do, but you can get a lot more glide out of every stroke than you are.  My suggestion would be to practice the glide with a pull buoy between your legs.  On each stroke, focus on that finish and really feel the glide before taking your next stroke.  You should be able to count to 3 between strokes.
3.  Reach straight ahead of your shoulder, not your head.  Exagerate this during your drills...you will feel more work being done by your lats than your shoulder/chest.
4.  As you finish your glide, the very first thing to move should be your hand and forearm.  Don't allow your upper arm to drop before.  You're actually not making this mistake very often, but You can practice using fists to get this straight.
5.  Push off the wall!!  I know there's not wall in open water, but you'll eventually do an indoor!

1:42 is not slow.  Was this your all out effort?  I think you're doing a good job so far.  And interesting breathing technique.  I haven't seen anyone do that before.

BoobieDr - 2010-04-14 7:58 PM Thanks for the reply Jger,

I'll look back at the drills wilco posted.  I keep debating over doing the swim coach thing ,but i guess i should just bite the bullet and do it.  I'll also look at getting someone to film me swimming...although i might wear my jammers that day rather than my speedo

RogerWilco - 2010-04-15 3:20 AM

Sorry, but I have to ask. As I said before, I live in Turkey. I NEVER swam with anything but a speedo (as you call it) all my life. We call it just swimsuit here. Nobody thinks twice about it. It is the apparel you wear when you are going to swim, or just sit at the beach.

I have seen so many jokes, puns here and elsewhere about speedos and I really cannot understand why. Is it so rarely used in the US that wearing it causes jokes from all around?

jpbis26 - 2010-04-15 2:47 AM Sorry to hear about your pool.

Update: I ran 4 miles today, which is the longest I've run so far. I had to take 2 walking breaks, but I got in the distance & felt good. Thinking of signing up for a 10K this summer to motivate me a little.

newbz - 2010-04-15 11:27 AM finally got out on my tri bike yesterday!!! After a spin and mountin bike all winter it felt weird for teh first 30 min or os, but i got in 3 hours oh hills and zn3 riding with a bit of harder sthrehold work. I'm sure i am going to be sore later today from this.

jgerbodegrant - 2010-04-15 12:06 PM



haha, how many months off the tri bike and then BAM 3 hours? You deserve to be sore! That's awesome though...how's the new bike??

jgerbodegrant - 2010-04-15 7:23 PM

Newbz...you're an animal.


Yeah...same here, good luck to all that are racing! I wish I was in the same boat...but I'll be in Boston for the marathon and expo. Hopefully get to watch the 5k and elite mile runs too. Those are always awesome.

newbz - 2010-04-14 11:40 PM haha thats where i swim now, 35 a month, 2 lane pool, 84 degree water;-)