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 2010-12-22 3:52 PM in reply to: #3258100 |
Pro  4723    CyFair |  Subject: RE: Beginner 1/2 Ironman Plan GroupJG_GreenCoast - 2010-12-22 3:36 PM That's just unfair. Still sub 30 here. Man it's 3 days before Christmas. I don't want 80 degree weather. Just feels wrong. |
| 2010-12-22 4:20 PM in reply to: #3258126 |
Expert 732 | Subject: RE: Beginner 1/2 Ironman Plan Group uhcoog - 2010-12-22 3:52 PM JG_GreenCoast - 2010-12-22 3:36 PM That's just unfair. Still sub 30 here. Man it's 3 days before Christmas. I don't want 80 degree weather. Just feels wrong. Point taken lol. You're from TX? |
| 2010-12-22 4:42 PM in reply to: #3052895 |
Veteran 446 | Subject: RE: Beginner 1/2 Ironman Plan Group Hello, I am new here but have been lurking for a few weeks. I am going to do a HIM in May and looking to get all the help I can. My background is that I grew up playing football and baseball -not distance events. I am not that strong at any of the events but want to get better. I did a sprint last Oct and a half mary in Nov. I am looking at different HIM plans and really wonder which is best. One plan is 16 wks and the other is 20 (BT). I know they will be tough but looking at them makes me think I should add more. I dont care where I finish, I just want to make sure I dont have any problems and I enjoy it. |
| 2010-12-22 4:44 PM in reply to: #3258210 |
| Expert 732 | Subject: RE: Beginner 1/2 Ironman Plan Group If you want to make sure you finish I wouldn't add too much more. The BT 20 works well for me |
| 2010-12-22 5:20 PM in reply to: #3052895 |
Veteran 446 | Subject: RE: Beginner 1/2 Ironman Plan Group My concern is that the BT is time based and if i am slow then I might not get enough miles in. |
| 2010-12-22 8:43 PM in reply to: #3052895 |
Regular 103 Alameda, CA | Subject: RE: Beginner 1/2 Ironman Plan Group Good suggestions about the intervals for the trainer, I will try that. Luckily this week it has only rained at night, so I have been able to go bike outside on dry pavement. Has anyone had any problems with slippery conditions while riding a bike in the rain? Or is it pretty safe? To answer the other questions about the plan, I haven't done a half IM yet, but I do come from a similar background as you. I played football (lineman) in highschool, threw shot putt in high school, and played rugby in college. I'm only on week three and even though it is time based, you do get faster and gain a ton more endurance during the plan. Hell even on week 3 I feel like if I attempted a half IM right now I would be able to finish it. I wouldn't do well, but I could at least finish it. And I'm 6'1'' 240lbs still running about a 10:30min pace. If you have a choice between a non-BT plan and the plan listed on BT for this thread, I'd highly recommend this plan. The people here really help you out with any question you might have. And it's good advice. They also don't yell at me for asking any stupid questions.  |
| 2010-12-23 12:13 AM in reply to: #3257968 |
Member 193 | Subject: RE: Beginner 1/2 Ironman Plan Group akrenik - 2010-12-22 2:37 PM Mellissa - 2010-12-22 6:18 AM Checking in on everybody How has your training going? The holidays and rain sure can mess up the best of intentions! Day off from training today. YAY! I'm still a bit behind but trying to get in as much as I can. Yes, weather certainly has its impact-rain, hail, wind, snow...don't know what's coming around here lately. How about you? |
| 2010-12-23 12:18 AM in reply to: #3257991 |
Member 193 | Subject: RE: Beginner 1/2 Ironman Plan Group uhcoog - 2010-12-22 2:45 PM Mellissa - 2010-12-22 8:18 AM Checking in on everybody Got in a lifting session and about 6 miles this morning. It's supposed to be low to mid 80s here today.  I did a strength session with an elite trainer this morning and it was both amazing and excruciating. I now fully understand complete fatigue/depletion. He timed it perfectly 3x3 sets of 4 exercises with cardio drills in between. By the last set of the third group I was nauseous and cold and literally could not do one more rep. I managed to pull of my swim tonight though! |
| 2010-12-23 7:22 AM in reply to: #3258593 |
Pro 4723 CyFair | Subject: RE: Beginner 1/2 Ironman Plan Group Mellissa - 2010-12-23 12:18 AM I did a strength session with an elite trainer this morning and it was both amazing and excruciating. I now fully understand complete fatigue/depletion. He timed it perfectly 3x3 sets of 4 exercises with cardio drills in between. By the last set of the third group I was nauseous and cold and literally could not do one more rep. I managed to pull of my swim tonight though! Nice. Right now I'm set up supersetting a compound lift with an isolation movement for 4 sets. Generally push/pull splits. I'll be shifting focus the middle/end of Feb to get ready for tri season. |
| 2010-12-23 10:49 AM in reply to: #3255637 |
Elite 3223 Hendersonville | Subject: RE: Beginner 1/2 Ironman Plan Group heb1024 - 2010-12-20 8:54 PM Starting to train for my 4th Half Ironman - well actually my 5th, though I didn't actually get to race my 4th due to getting sick :-( I've signed up for Rev3 half in Knoxville on 5/15 - anyone else out there doing this one? This time I'm starting in more of a hole than normal with my training - I haven't been training much for the past couple of years and have gotten fat and out of shape. So I have a couple of concerns with my training for this race: 1. my current out of shape status (though I've been getting ready for the past month to start the plan on 12/26) - the training plan should take care of this!; 2. my tendency to get sick right before races (it's happened at the last 2 half-ironman races - once a stomach virus and the last one a sinus infection and bronchitis). Any thoughts on this? I'll keep you guys up to date! Cindy Welcome, Cindy! Thanks for joining us! I think the tendency to get sick right before a race is pretty common. All that endurance training weakens the immune system. During taper we get stressed, too, and if the before-race stress doesn't cause you to get sick, the few days after the race might (from the stress of the event). Good job getting ready for the training. I am sure it will help as you start the training plan. |
| 2010-12-23 10:56 AM in reply to: #3255965 |
Elite 3223 Hendersonville | Subject: RE: Beginner 1/2 Ironman Plan Group halfmarathondon - 2010-12-21 9:21 AM Hi All, I’m rather new to Tri. Several Sprints and one Oly under my belt so far. I’m a BOP finisher. I need some advice. I’m thinking of doing my first 70.3 I was looking at the Racine 70.3, but I’m already registered for the Chattanooga Oly distance the weekend before. It is totally craze to attempt that 70.3? Could I go ez in Chattanooga and use that as a warm-up? I also thought about the Lake Geneva 70.3 on Sept 11. But I don’t know anything about how popular or organized it is. Any info? My other option is to do Branson. But frankly the hills down there scare me. And I’d have to pass on the Chicago Marathon. I’ll be doing the Trinona as a Oly earlier in the year. ANY advice you all have will be much appreciated. Thanks! Don Hi Don! I would not recommend doing an Oly the week before the 70.3. It's so hard not to RACE during a race, and you want to devote your full mental and physical focus on your more important goal, which is the 70.3. Lake Geneva might be a good fit. You can search the Iron Distance forum for info on that race, or read BT race reports. You can find the race reports for that race here. |
| 2010-12-23 10:59 AM in reply to: #3257206 |
Elite 3223 Hendersonville | Subject: RE: Beginner 1/2 Ironman Plan Group llusk - 2010-12-22 7:46 AM Hello! I am new to this site. Anyone training for a Half this coming year? Tips for a detailed training plan? I have run a few sprints and Olys. This past year, I qualified for age group nationals. Looking to do a half this coming year and possible a full. Any suggestions or advice is greatly accepted! Welcome to BT! This forum is for people that use the free BT Half Ironman plan. You can find the plan here. It's a great plan. You can see all the plans that BT offers by clicking on the "Programs" Button at the top of the page. We have free plans and plans that require a membership. I am sure you will find one that meets your needs! |
| 2010-12-23 11:01 AM in reply to: #3258210 |
Elite 3223 Hendersonville | Subject: RE: Beginner 1/2 Ironman Plan Group gabrelsj - 2010-12-22 4:42 PM Hello, I am new here but have been lurking for a few weeks. I am going to do a HIM in May and looking to get all the help I can. My background is that I grew up playing football and baseball -not distance events. I am not that strong at any of the events but want to get better. I did a sprint last Oct and a half mary in Nov. I am looking at different HIM plans and really wonder which is best. One plan is 16 wks and the other is 20 (BT). I know they will be tough but looking at them makes me think I should add more. I dont care where I finish, I just want to make sure I dont have any problems and I enjoy it. Well, I am sure you will be able to finish as long as you follow a plan. The benefit of the BT plan is getting support here, or in the Gold forum if you use a Gold plan. Thanks for dropping in - hope we can help you reach your goals this year! |
| 2010-12-23 11:04 AM in reply to: #3258249 |
Elite 3223 Hendersonville | Subject: RE: Beginner 1/2 Ironman Plan Group gabrelsj - 2010-12-22 5:20 PM My concern is that the BT is time based and if i am slow then I might not get enough miles in. Lots of people have this concern, but the truth is there is only so much training you can do before it's just too hard on your body and leads to injury or poor health. You may not get in the miles that a faster athlete gets in, but if you try to add more time to get in those miles, you may not make it to the start line because you will be injured. |
| 2010-12-23 11:46 AM in reply to: #3052895 |
Regular 282 Toronto, ON | Subject: RE: Beginner 1/2 Ironman Plan Group Thanks for the warm welcome. Now I've got the HIM registration tab open at all times - one step closer to actually registering. Ha ha! And having read more on BT I'm feeling more and more confident about following the plan, sharing training ideas and well, running down the dream. I've got a while before beginning the HIM plan as my planned race (Demi-Esprit in Montreal) isn't until September. Which leaves me time to build a solid base. I'm wondering if anyone has used Spinervals dvd's with their trainer (ok, first I need a trainer but I'm hopeful that Santa will be kind to me)? If so, would you recommend them? Also, much like swimming and bike training, do you guys do intervals or sets with running or do you just get out there and pound the pavement? And how do you get around running without music? Should I practice training without it? I'm a MUCH better runner with music and I enjoy it much more that way. |
| 2010-12-23 12:02 PM in reply to: #3259296 |
Pro 4723 CyFair | Subject: RE: Beginner 1/2 Ironman Plan Group lamb_y2003 - 2010-12-23 11:46 AM Thanks for the warm welcome. Now I've got the HIM registration tab open at all times - one step closer to actually registering. Ha ha! And having read more on BT I'm feeling more and more confident about following the plan, sharing training ideas and well, running down the dream. I've got a while before beginning the HIM plan as my planned race (Demi-Esprit in Montreal) isn't until September. Which leaves me time to build a solid base. I'm wondering if anyone has used Spinervals dvd's with their trainer (ok, first I need a trainer but I'm hopeful that Santa will be kind to me)? If so, would you recommend them? Also, much like swimming and bike training, do you guys do intervals or sets with running or do you just get out there and pound the pavement? And how do you get around running without music? Should I practice training without it? I'm a MUCH better runner with music and I enjoy it much more that way. I've seen lots of glowing reviews on spinervals here. I too am "hoping" for a trainer for Christmas and have a bunch of spinervals DVDs in my Amazon cart. I like to do tempo runs and intervals on my short running day or will throw some sprints in to the end of any run where I don't feel taxed enough at the end. My longer runs I keep at a consistent pace. I run with music daily. I don't really miss it when I race due to everything happening around me. I have plenty to loose myself in on race day that the music isn't missed. Training for me is a totally different ballgame. I have to have music to train. |
| 2010-12-23 2:23 PM in reply to: #3052895 |
| Expert 732 | Subject: RE: Beginner 1/2 Ironman Plan Group Was too icy out today so opted for my long tempo run on the dreadmill. 9.33mi in 77 Min! 8:15 miles! I'm pretty happy about it....would have been a great run save for walking 2 mins at one point and 1 min at another. Still pretty solid for me. Started out 20min warmup at 7mph, then did 3/2 from 8.5 to 7.5. This got pretty tiring and i backed off to 8/7. Is this not a big enough diference?? Should my recovery running be MUCH slower? I'm still so happy though I feel great!! My legs are sore as hell and I have to take my little brother bowling then go to a long cocktail xmas event standing the whole time. Just let me lie down!! |
| 2010-12-24 11:51 AM in reply to: #3052895 |
Member 28 Foster City, CA | Subject: RE: Beginner 1/2 Ironman Plan Group 2 quick questions – Per the Plan, I have swim and run workouts today (Swim – 4 x 500, odds @ RPE 3, evens @ RPE 5; Run – 10 min warm-up, 20-second strides for 40 mins total). I’d like to replace the run with a Lactate Threshold HR Test to test my Max HR and set my training zones (10 min warm-up, 30 mins all-out – Friel Method).
Question 1: If I do the swim first, will this negatively affect the accuracy of the LTHR Test?
Question 2: Is there an affect on accuracy if I perform the test on a treadmill versus outside?
Thanks! |
| 2010-12-24 9:15 PM in reply to: #3260580 |
| Expert 732 | Subject: RE: Beginner 1/2 Ironman Plan Group lalexander - 2010-12-24 11:51 AM 2 quick questions – Per the Plan, I have swim and run workouts today (Swim – 4 x 500, odds @ RPE 3, evens @ RPE 5; Run – 10 min warm-up, 20-second strides for 40 mins total). I’d like to replace the run with a Lactate Threshold HR Test to test my Max HR and set my training zones (10 min warm-up, 30 mins all-out – Friel Method).
Question 1: If I do the swim first, will this negatively affect the accuracy of the LTHR Test?
Question 2: Is there an affect on accuracy if I perform the test on a treadmill versus outside?
Thanks! I know the answer to question 2 and I would assume that the answer to 1 would be yes if done within any remotely narrow time window. Question 2, if running on a treadmill at 0.0% incline will have a negative effect on accuracy. For LTHR, if done on a treadmill, incline should be set to 1.0% to neutralize wind resistance/surface. Otherwise it's like running downhill, but LTHR is fine on a treadmill if offsetting wind resistance is what my coach said. |
| 2010-12-24 9:17 PM in reply to: #3052895 |
| Expert 732 | Subject: RE: Beginner 1/2 Ironman Plan Group And holy s***! After my 9.3 run my quads are sooo sore. The swimming today somehow felt easy, though, which is a nice sign for me. Finally put in some good continuous yards. In addition, the area right below my shoulders hurt from carrying/swinging my arms. Is this normal? |
| 2010-12-25 1:52 AM in reply to: #3260950 |
Member 28 Foster City, CA | Subject: RE: Beginner 1/2 Ironman Plan Group Thanks JG - I ended up doing the run right after the swim due to time constraints. I felt good while doing it but I was definitely whooped at the end! To your point, I set the incline to 2.5%. Hopefully I got an accurate result! |
| 2010-12-26 2:10 PM in reply to: #3052895 |
| New user 1 | Subject: RE: Beginner 1/2 Ironman Plan Group Hello, I am just getting started at this. I am planning on participating in the Pacific Crest Half Ironman June 2011. So I have a good 25 weeks of prep time. I have run many races, swimming and biking will be new for me though. I am excited about the challenge and so looking forward to doing something new.  Laura |
| 2010-12-27 9:42 AM in reply to: #3052895 |
Pro 4723 CyFair | Subject: RE: Beginner 1/2 Ironman Plan Group Never run in temps like this before. Hit almost 6 miles at an 8:30 pace. Took almost 2 miles before my knees warmed up though. I must be getting old. |
| 2010-12-27 9:54 AM in reply to: #3052895 |
Veteran 446 | Subject: RE: Beginner 1/2 Ironman Plan Group thanks jessica. i have heard only positive things from about the BT plan so i will try that one. i will need to make a few changes due to work and family but i am sure that iswhat everyone has to do. i really dont want to overtrain. |
| 2010-12-27 10:07 AM in reply to: #3052895 |
| 4 | Subject: RE: Beginner 1/2 Ironman Plan Group Tri Take Me Away - 2010-08-19 6:18 PM If you are starting the Beginner 1/2 Ironman Plan, come join in this group! This group will connect you with others starting or already training on this plan. Post your introduction, background, ask questions and get motivated! Hi Starting training today for 1/2 IM. Its on 14th May. Done one olympic to date, 2.36hrs, what time should i reasonably expect for 1/2IM? BTW I'm 47  ....... |
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