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 2010-09-29 5:33 PM in reply to: #3123292 |
Extreme Veteran  1986     Cypress, TX |  Subject: RE: Ironman Texasdangitdake - 2010-09-29 8:00 AM I didn't spend any money on a swim coach, but I did swim 10-12 K per week in my IM training and it paid off. I felt fresh coming out of the water and my pace was similar to previous Half Ironmans even though I was doubling the distance. I had underestimated how much the swim was taking out of me due to poor form and fitness. The great thing is that it didn't take that much extra time for me to get in an extra 3-4K a week. It's only 45-60 minutes per week. Wish I had taken the swim more seriously a few years earlier. It's not like I'm avoiding swimming. I still swim 6-10K per week depending. My next race is IMFL in a little over 5 weeks. Wetsuit swim and I expect to finish in the 1:10 to 1:15 range depending on conditions. I will make a concerted effort to become a more efficient swimmer over the winter with the 2.4 mile non-wetsuit swim looming on May 21st. |
| 2010-09-29 5:37 PM in reply to: #3124556 |
Champion 8540  the colony texas | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas docshock1964 - 2010-09-29 3:13 PM evillarroel - 2010-09-29 7:31 AM GMAN 19030 - 2010-09-29 7:13 AM Despite all my flaws, I'm still a way better than average non-wetsuit swimmer. I just prefer the ease of a wetsuit swim. I'm not willing to spend the time and money necessary on the portion of an Ironman that only accounts for 10% of my total time. It sounds dopey to me when I hear people talk about how they have swam 12,000 meters per week and spend $1000 on a swim coach and improved by three to five minutes. Working on my transitions is free and arguably just as effective. I agree that winning positions in the water does not define the race, but you can certainly loose a race in the swim portion. Good swimming volume will give you an aerobic engine that you'll not get from running or cycling. That being said, the gains you get from paying attention to the swim (often the most neglected) will far exceed your time savings before hitting t1. Otherwise, why do you think the pros swim 5 times a week but only cycle 3? Also, you don't have to spend lots of money in coaching. Here in Dallas there's a swim coach that will get you 10 secs faster or better per 100yd in two sessions, just by filming your swim underwater and later talking the details with you. Just an idea... Please share the name of this coach. GO HAWKEYE'S !!!!+ It's one of the best kept secrets,, change the ^^color to find out Edited by Gaarryy 2010-09-29 5:39 PM |
| 2010-09-29 8:50 PM in reply to: #2944040 |
Veteran 290 D/FW, TX | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas Anyone doing White Rock? I'd like to do the full, just because I've been wanting to keep a tradition of doing one a year... wouldn't do another full until IMTX. Maybe just take it easy? Thoughts? Seems doable since it's so early in December. |
| 2010-09-30 6:41 AM in reply to: #3124805 |
Master 2238 Dallas | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas Gaarryy - 2010-09-29 5:37 PM docshock1964 - 2010-09-29 3:13 PM evillarroel - 2010-09-29 7:31 AM GMAN 19030 - 2010-09-29 7:13 AM Despite all my flaws, I'm still a way better than average non-wetsuit swimmer. I just prefer the ease of a wetsuit swim. I'm not willing to spend the time and money necessary on the portion of an Ironman that only accounts for 10% of my total time. It sounds dopey to me when I hear people talk about how they have swam 12,000 meters per week and spend $1000 on a swim coach and improved by three to five minutes. Working on my transitions is free and arguably just as effective. I agree that winning positions in the water does not define the race, but you can certainly loose a race in the swim portion. Good swimming volume will give you an aerobic engine that you'll not get from running or cycling. That being said, the gains you get from paying attention to the swim (often the most neglected) will far exceed your time savings before hitting t1. Otherwise, why do you think the pros swim 5 times a week but only cycle 3? Also, you don't have to spend lots of money in coaching. Here in Dallas there's a swim coach that will get you 10 secs faster or better per 100yd in two sessions, just by filming your swim underwater and later talking the details with you. Just an idea... Please share the name of this coach. GO HAWKEYE'S !!!!+ It's one of the best kept secrets,, change the ^^color to find out Chris McCurdy (former olympian). His email: [email protected] and he'll charge you $265 for five 30 minute sessions (one on one). Shannon, I'm doing White Rock but just the half, I did the full before and it will tax my training too much for that part of the season, so I'm just going to shoot for a fast time. |
| 2010-09-30 6:45 AM in reply to: #3123283 |
Master 2238 Dallas | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas GMAN 19030 - 2010-09-29 7:56 AM In all fairness, I already lost the race when I registered.  I'm never going to be a podium contender. My running is what holds me back far more than my swimming. My swim and bike times are in line with folks that finish a 70.3 in 5 hours or less in my AG (M40-44). Then I run 20 or 30 minutes slower than they do and give all that time back. That's where I need to work. My swim times are usually in the top-25%, wetsuit or not. Swim another 5k a week and your run will improve too. It made me 15 secs faster a mile. |
| 2010-09-30 7:38 AM in reply to: #3125064 |
Member 21 Scottsdale, Arizona | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas I'm doing the White Rock half marathon. Just wanted to have a good solid run foundation before the build for IM TX. |
| 2010-09-30 7:50 AM in reply to: #3125312 |
Extreme Veteran 1986 Cypress, TX | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas evillarroel - 2010-09-30 6:45 AM GMAN 19030 - 2010-09-29 7:56 AM In all fairness, I already lost the race when I registered. I'm never going to be a podium contender. My running is what holds me back far more than my swimming. My swim and bike times are in line with folks that finish a 70.3 in 5 hours or less in my AG (M40-44). Then I run 20 or 30 minutes slower than they do and give all that time back. That's where I need to work. My swim times are usually in the top-25%, wetsuit or not. Swim another 5k a week and your run will improve too. It made me 15 secs faster a mile. Or I could run more. That will improve my run too.  My "slow" running is more a mental thing than a physical thing. I have a comfort zone and don't like deviating from it. I just joined the Endurance Nation team so I now have some accountability with my run training. |
| 2010-09-30 8:00 AM in reply to: #3124802 |
Veteran 144 Little Elm, Texas | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas GMAN 19030 - 2010-09-29 5:33 PM dangitdake - 2010-09-29 8:00 AM I didn't spend any money on a swim coach, but I did swim 10-12 K per week in my IM training and it paid off. I felt fresh coming out of the water and my pace was similar to previous Half Ironmans even though I was doubling the distance. I had underestimated how much the swim was taking out of me due to poor form and fitness. The great thing is that it didn't take that much extra time for me to get in an extra 3-4K a week. It's only 45-60 minutes per week. Wish I had taken the swim more seriously a few years earlier. It's not like I'm avoiding swimming. I still swim 6-10K per week depending. My next race is IMFL in a little over 5 weeks. Wetsuit swim and I expect to finish in the 1:10 to 1:15 range depending on conditions. I will make a concerted effort to become a more efficient swimmer over the winter with the 2.4 mile non-wetsuit swim looming on May 21st. I hope I didn't come off as critical. Not my intention, just relaying my personal experience in the hopes that someone may find it useful. You may not be avoiding the swim, but in the past I certainly was and I didn't realize how much it affected my race. My big workouts in the past were 3K and this past year I was doing at least three 4K workouts a week and also started doing flip turns (which I thought were going to kill me, but I'm glad I forced myself to adjust) leading up to IM Loo. What that translated to in training was that I would swim 1:15 instead of 1 hour. I did have a respectable time of 1:06, but that wasn't important to me. I wanted to feel good on the run, especially since it was my first IM. I felt great on the run and didn't have any fatigue problems on the bike. I have no statistical way to measure the impact of the extra swimming on my run as a previous poster did, but I'm convinced that it helped and the time spent was worth it. Have fun in FL! I have just enough time between Louisville and now, to be bit jealous of people racing an IM in the near future. I'm at the point where I'm really excited about IM Texas, but I know I'll train that excitement away come May 21st. |
| 2010-09-30 7:50 PM in reply to: #3125064 |
Expert 902 Wylie, TX | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas spuphal - 2010-09-29 8:50 PM Anyone doing White Rock? I'd like to do the full, just because I've been wanting to keep a tradition of doing one a year... wouldn't do another full until IMTX. Maybe just take it easy? Thoughts? Seems doable since it's so early in December. I am doing the Califonia International Marathon on the same day as WR. I was suppose to be doing it with a buddy with the plan of BQing. Unfortunately, he needs knee surgery so I am solo. It is almost 6 months before IMTX so I am not worried. |
| 2010-09-30 10:01 PM in reply to: #3127150 |
Veteran 290 D/FW, TX | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas docshock1964 - 2010-09-30 7:50 PM I am doing the Califonia International Marathon on the same day as WR. I was suppose to be doing it with a buddy with the plan of BQing. Unfortunately, he needs knee surgery so I am solo. It is almost 6 months before IMTX so I am not worried. Hey Craig, The CIM is an awesome marathon. I ran it back in 2003 and it's a definite PR course. I'm sure I'll have some friends running it this year (I'm originally from CA) so if you want, I can get you in touch with them. Just so you know someone.  Thanks everyone for the responses. Price goes up at midnight. Have 2 more hours to decide! Ha! |
| 2010-10-01 3:47 AM in reply to: #2944040 |
Member 22 Rowlett, TX | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas Hey everyone, thought it was about time I joined the thread. I signed up for IM Texas about a month ago. Will be my first IM, coming from a distance cycling background. I've also run a few marathons and Trail Ultras, so the cycling and running doesn't worry me much. Don't get me wrong, not discounting the difficulty, I just know what it will take to be ready for those. However, the swim is in my head. I've been swimming 2K 4 times a week and have just started with a Coach this week. Once I'm comfortable with my form, I'll be looking for a place to swim open water around Dallas (Rowlett). Anyone aware of a local club that swims regularly around Dallas? Lake Ray Hubbard is closest to me, but I wouldn't mind a drive if needed. Looking forward to talking with you all. Pretty nice group you've got here. Steve |
| 2010-10-01 6:38 AM in reply to: #3127431 |
Master 2238 Dallas | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas barlows - 2010-10-01 3:47 AM Hey everyone, thought it was about time I joined the thread. I signed up for IM Texas about a month ago. Will be my first IM, coming from a distance cycling background. I've also run a few marathons and Trail Ultras, so the cycling and running doesn't worry me much. Don't get me wrong, not discounting the difficulty, I just know what it will take to be ready for those. However, the swim is in my head. I've been swimming 2K 4 times a week and have just started with a Coach this week. Once I'm comfortable with my form, I'll be looking for a place to swim open water around Dallas (Rowlett). Anyone aware of a local club that swims regularly around Dallas? Lake Ray Hubbard is closest to me, but I wouldn't mind a drive if needed. Looking forward to talking with you all. Pretty nice group you've got here. Steve My group swims out of windsurf bay in ray hubbard regularly along the buoy line. Sometimes we do it with support, sometimes is just us without a kayak. Shoot me a PM with your number and I'll keep you posted. Usually it's friday evening and sunday morning. |
| 2010-10-05 7:33 PM in reply to: #2944040 |
| Regular 83 | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas I'm starting to get ready for my first ironman! Just taking a couple weeks completely off after Augusta 70.3 Wanted to let everyone know my plans and to see what you think about my pre-season race schedule. I'm currently in Western, NC but am moving to Austin Dec 1 - March 5 to train and enjoy the winter off before golf season begins again in NC and I have to get back to work! If anyone wants to get in longer rides/runs on weekends or anytime for that matter I have no schedule restrictions so i'll be able to drive and meet some people in Texas while im living there for 3 months. Jan 30- Austin, TX Half Marathon 13.1 Feb 20- San Antonio, TX Calveras Duathlon 3.1/21/3.1 March 19th - Cary, NC Long Course Duathlon 5/31/5 April 23rd - Aiken, SC Intl Distance 1500m/24/10k May 21st - Ironman Woodlands 2.4/112/26.2 I'm following the supercoach network plan and it will be modified a bit. http://www.trifuel.com/triathlon/ironman-workouts/ I'm looking to improve run and swim speed while in Texas and would love some input on Master's swim people might recommend or a gym/pool I can join. Bike will be base endurance as I am happy with bike fitness. I would like to hear your comments on preseason races and also who/where I need to go to train. Thanks for the help! Tyler |
| 2010-10-07 9:33 AM in reply to: #3125309 |
Expert 2547 The Woodlands, TX | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas evillarroel - 2010-09-30 6:41 AM Chris McCurdy (former olympian). His email: [email protected] and he'll charge you $265 for five 30 minute sessions (one on one). Shannon, I'm doing White Rock but just the half, I did the full before and it will tax my training too much for that part of the season, so I'm just going to shoot for a fast time. He also coached a certain lance armstrong in the pool... |
| 2010-10-08 8:19 AM in reply to: #2944040 |
Extreme Veteran 494 | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas Looks like the website was updated with a couple layout changes. Nothing on the maps yet. But the participant list is up. |
| 2010-10-08 9:35 AM in reply to: #3140483 |
Extreme Veteran 567 Kingwood, TX | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas suffer78 - 2010-10-08 8:19 AM Looks like the website was updated with a couple layout changes. Nothing on the maps yet. But the participant list is up. I put the Participant list into Excel and here are the breakdowns: Total Participants: 2702 Total Males: 2036 (3 Gender Fields Blank) Total Females: 663 Total From TX: 1552 (289 State Field Blank) Texas is well represented! |
| 2010-10-08 9:37 AM in reply to: #3140483 |
Extreme Veteran 622 Dubai, United Arab Emirates | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas 2702 participants. 1553 from TX One 14 year old, Gilbert Fontenot from Alabama. Edit, beat me to it Edited by BJG85 2010-10-08 9:37 AM |
| 2010-10-08 9:40 AM in reply to: #3140703 |
Queen BTich 12411 , | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas JeffIrvin - 2010-10-08 10:35 AM suffer78 - 2010-10-08 8:19 AM Looks like the website was updated with a couple layout changes. Nothing on the maps yet. But the participant list is up. I put the Participant list into Excel and here are the breakdowns: Total Participants: 2702 Total Males: 2036 (3 Gender Fields Blank) Total Females: 663 Total From TX: 1552 (289 State Field Blank) Texas is well represented! Will be 1553. My state is wrong and I've emailed to update my info. Hopefully I can change it. |
| 2010-10-08 9:56 AM in reply to: #2944040 |
Extreme Veteran 622 Dubai, United Arab Emirates | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas From the Rules and Regulations on ironmantexas.com "13) “No Pass Zone.” Athletes are required to ride at a reduced rate of speed and maintain a static position on all Palani Road descents. This includes the descent from Queen Ka’ahumanu to Kuakini and the descent from Kuakini returning to transition. Both descents are approximately 2/10 of a mile and include sharp turns with an immediate left turn at the bottom of the hill. Failure to comply will result in a penalty to be served at the transition area. Disregard for this rule that places other athletes and/or race officials in immediate peril will result in disqualification and a one-year suspension from all licensed and qualifying Ironman events." I think the swim from Texas to Hawaii is more than 2.4 miles. |
| 2010-10-08 10:35 AM in reply to: #2944040 |
Extreme Veteran 479 The Woodlands, TX | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas Volunteer info is up too. Any thoughts on the good ones to try and get? I was thinking of signing up for finish line duty in the afternoon. Seems appealing but not sure what it entails. |
| 2010-10-08 10:41 AM in reply to: #3140703 |
Champion 8540 the colony texas | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas JeffIrvin - 2010-10-08 9:35 AM suffer78 - 2010-10-08 8:19 AM Looks like the website was updated with a couple layout changes. Nothing on the maps yet. But the participant list is up. I put the Participant list into Excel and here are the breakdowns: Total Participants: 2702 Total Males: 2036 (3 Gender Fields Blank) Total Females: 663 Total From TX: 1552 (289 State Field Blank) Texas is well represented! I really love you excell. people... I can't do anything in it.. I might put you on speeddial for help |
| 2010-10-08 10:45 AM in reply to: #2944040 |
Champion 6973 marietta | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas what time is everyone going to bike check today? is there a get together afterward? ----------------------------------------------------------------- 3) All bikes and helmets will be checked in on Friday, October 8, prior to race day. Race officials reserve the right to reject any bike not meeting safety standards. If the bike does not meet safety standards, the athlete will be required to correct the problem before participating in the race. Once your bike is checked into the holding area, only small covers on the seat and/or computer will be allowed. Large plastic bags that cover the entire bike will not be permitted. |
| 2010-10-08 11:37 AM in reply to: #2944040 |
Extreme Veteran 565 Silicon Valley | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas Here's the breakdown by gender/age group... (10-8-2010 9-39-47 AM.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 10-8-2010 9-39-47 AM.jpg (32KB - 18 downloads) |
| 2010-10-08 12:31 PM in reply to: #3140872 |
Elite 3088 Austin, TX Gold member | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas hathecr - 2010-10-08 10:35 AM Volunteer info is up too. Any thoughts on the good ones to try and get? I was thinking of signing up for finish line duty in the afternoon. Seems appealing but not sure what it entails. My parents did that for a couple of years at IMLP. Basically, you give out the finisher's medals, and escort the athlete to medical/food/massage depending on what they want/need. You're mainly keeping an eye on them for the first several minutes after the cross to make sure they don't crater. |
| 2010-10-09 2:56 PM in reply to: #2956646 |
| 1 | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas : Official Thread I am coming from Naples,Fla....hot and flat. But I am a transplanted New Englander that misses hills. |
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