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2010-09-18 4:36 PM
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Hey Everyone!

I do have depressive episodes but my major issue is Panic Disorder, which exacerbates depression for sure. I lived with this condition for most of my life until I finally sought a diagnosis at age 40. It is debilitating until you can get some treatment. Meds definitely help but I would like one day to be free of them. I am just a little nervous about that at this point. I have to say that I feel pretty stable overall but training definitely helps! I hope to replace the prescribed chemicals with training induced chemicals at some point in my life!

If anyone wants to chime in or ask questions about this particular condition, I am happy to talk about it. It's very easy to feel alone in your suffering, and if you are not treated, you really can suffer! It won't kill you but it's a miserable feeling. Contact me any time. Smile
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mchally - 2010-09-18 11:47 AM
msmegganann - 2010-09-17 7:23 PM mchally - nice job on school! congratulations!

I never tried Abilify.  I was on Cymbalta, Lexapro, and Zoloft at different times.  I had weight gain issues with all 3, and mild to moderate dizzy spells as well.

It is definitely tough to find the right balance of meds.
Oh the list of meds I've been on... Pretty much every antidepressant, mood stabilizer, adhd med, allergy med, antipsychotic, etc.

Kind of make it hard to be optimistic about finding the right combination at this point.  I can get by on what I have now, but I am not as functional as I would like to be.   Trying new meds...that can often (very often for me) lead to complications that reduce me to a nonfunctional state.  Not very encouraging. Still hoping to find the right combo someday.

There have been periods where I was stable and highly functioning, but they don't seem to last.

I hear ya on the combos of meds.  I have been on almost everything.  I decided to go the holistic route.  So far nothing significant to report except for a little withdrawal.  I have been taking the pharmaceuticals for about 15 years with limited results that I thought I would try the tree hugger approach.  It is very interesting, I am little skeptical with a degree of optimism.   It has only been a month but at least I don't have that drugged up feeling.  The most important thing I have found out (which took me a long time) was that my diet sucks!!!  Appointment with a nutritionist to help me get on the right track.  I like my food but it is starting to not like me!!!

The thing about going this holistic route is that it could, potentially, cost a lot.  I really can't afford to go to Whole (Foods) Paycheck every week to get the good stuff.  Somehow we will just have figure something out.  Just need to get the family on board.

Just wondering when it is going to end or should I say, begin!
2010-09-18 10:22 PM
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I lived on Wellbutrin and Xanax for years, but left them behind for St John's Wort and endorphines from my workouts.  Not nearly as effective, but better than suffering.
2010-09-19 6:18 AM
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susanp - 2010-09-19 5:36 AM Hey Everyone!

I do have depressive episodes but my major issue is Panic Disorder, which exacerbates depression for sure. I lived with this condition for most of my life until I finally sought a diagnosis at age 40. It is debilitating until you can get some treatment. Meds definitely help but I would like one day to be free of them. I am just a little nervous about that at this point. I have to say that I feel pretty stable overall but training definitely helps! I hope to replace the prescribed chemicals with training induced chemicals at some point in my life!

If anyone wants to chime in or ask questions about this particular condition, I am happy to talk about it. It's very easy to feel alone in your suffering, and if you are not treated, you really can suffer! It won't kill you but it's a miserable feeling. Contact me any time. Smile
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Hi Susan! It's great that you've found another tool in training ... thanks also for being open to talk with others!
2010-09-19 7:08 PM
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I tried cymbalta and lexapro as well and experienced the dizzieness as well along with severe insomnia, Im currently taking pristiq with the abilify and having no noticeable side effects (guess i shoudl have mentioned that in my original post). The muscle spasms thing is definitely interesting i'll be on the look out.

The best thing ive found to help with panic disorder is a book called from Panic to Power. Ive never really found a med thats addressed the issue as well as a little knowledge on your thinking patterns. The book is written by a woman who has a center out in the midwest and treats people with severe anxiety. She also suffers from it which is why i payed closer attention to her book. Ive done dramatically better after reading it. You cant just address the end result you have to be able to see it coming and realize some things about the disorder.
2010-09-20 10:38 AM
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Yiaaaarghh!  Depression.  I'm sorry to see this thread is so long.  There are a lot of us here.

I often feel like Ralphie in the Christmas story:

Over the years I got to be quite a connoisseur of soap. Though my personal preference was for Lux, I found that Palmolive had a nice, piquant after-dinner flavor - heavy, but with a touch of mellow smoothness. Life Buoy, on the other hand... YECCHH!"
 

Only I'm a connoisseur of sadness rather than soap.  I've become an expert on despair, acedia, chronic depression, acute depression.  You get the idea.  Meds and exercise do help.

 

Hang tough out there!



2010-09-21 12:38 PM
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I didn't know this thread existed til just now.

Exercise (and antidepressants) are my saviors.

I used to suffer from anorexia, then bulimia, then COE, ending about 10yrs ago. Stayed on Paxil till about 4 years ago--switched to Zoloft because we were trying to get pregnant. Adopted, then got pregnant. Anyway, in the beginning exercise was an obsession, but since the eating disorders are/were 99% gone, exercise is what keeps me sane, keeps my nervous energy under control, keeps my obsessive thoughts at bay.

Fast fwd to the past 6wks or so--heatstroke on Aug. 10. Mild one, but I have none almost nothing for six. Whole. Weeks. The first 3wks or so I was ok w/that, mentally (although my legs, not realizing my body needed to heal, kept wanting to go-go-go!). These past 3wks I've been a mental mess. I've been focusing on being joyful about the extra time to spend w/my kids (2yo and almost-4yo) and not having to work training and races around football season (my husband's the head ftball coach at a high school), but these last few days, I'm so down. And the ED thoughts creep back w/o exercise. I gorge. I hate my body. And so on.

I know I should do something like walking or yoga, and that it will help. But I haven't. I want to run. I don't want to walk. I want to bike, not do yoga. The nearest pool is 25 minutes in the opposite direction of everything in my life--my house, work, babysitter, preschool.

I don't know what I want to get out of this vent---but I needed it. Thanks.

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JoseyWales - 2010-09-21 10:38 AM I didn't know this thread existed til just now.

Exercise (and antidepressants) are my saviors.

I used to suffer from anorexia, then bulimia, then COE, ending about 10yrs ago. Stayed on Paxil till about 4 years ago--switched to Zoloft because we were trying to get pregnant. Adopted, then got pregnant. Anyway, in the beginning exercise was an obsession, but since the eating disorders are/were 99% gone, exercise is what keeps me sane, keeps my nervous energy under control, keeps my obsessive thoughts at bay.

Fast fwd to the past 6wks or so--heatstroke on Aug. 10. Mild one, but I have none almost nothing for six. Whole. Weeks. The first 3wks or so I was ok w/that, mentally (although my legs, not realizing my body needed to heal, kept wanting to go-go-go!). These past 3wks I've been a mental mess. I've been focusing on being joyful about the extra time to spend w/my kids (2yo and almost-4yo) and not having to work training and races around football season (my husband's the head ftball coach at a high school), but these last few days, I'm so down. And the ED thoughts creep back w/o exercise. I gorge. I hate my body. And so on.

I know I should do something like walking or yoga, and that it will help. But I haven't. I want to run. I don't want to walk. I want to bike, not do yoga. The nearest pool is 25 minutes in the opposite direction of everything in my life--my house, work, babysitter, preschool.

I don't know what I want to get out of this vent---but I needed it. Thanks.



Sorry to hear about your heatstroke.  Sounds like you have some real cabin fever too.  Hope it eases up soon -- how much longer does your body need to recover after heatstroke?

I've been feeling pretty blue myself the past few days.  My 45th birthday is tomorrow, and it's hitting me rather hard.  Brings up those familiar feelings of failure and inadequacy.  Here I am, solidly middle-aged, and I still haven't found the right person to settle down with, and my career is totally sputtering.  Feel like life is passing me by.

I know I'll get through it, I always do.  And I know I already have all the tools I need to forge ahead.  Just need to remind myself that my life is a journey, not a destination, and that being happy is largely a choice to be made each new day.  Be happy/grateful for the things I have rather than those I think I should have.
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Sorry to hear about your heatstroke.  Sounds like you have some real cabin fever too.  Hope it eases up soon -- how much longer does your body need to recover after heatstroke?

I've been feeling pretty blue myself the past few days.  My 45th birthday is tomorrow, and it's hitting me rather hard.  Brings up those familiar feelings of failure and inadequacy.  Here I am, solidly middle-aged, and I still haven't found the right person to settle down with, and my career is totally sputtering.  Feel like life is passing me by.

I know I'll get through it, I always do.  And I know I already have all the tools I need to forge ahead.  Just need to remind myself that my life is a journey, not a destination, and that being happy is largely a choice to be made each new day.  Be happy/grateful for the things I have rather than those I think I should have.


Tripolar--I am probably ok now. I'll be honest: I'm scared to go back out. As much as I want to, when it comes down to it, I'm afraid I'll fail again (in the first 3 wks after the stroke I kept trying, and would feel awful again). But I know I have to!

Yes--life being a journey is a good thing for me to remember, too. And what we "should have" is largely subjective!
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Hey all, How's it going?

I still am not back to 100% after my medication withdrawal experience earlier this month.  My brain is foggy, thought process suffering, and I am having lots of aches and pains...not to mention the exhaustion and fatigue.

It is making school less enjoyable.  Especially since my classes are 3-4 hours long.
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mchally - 2010-09-29 7:51 PM Hey all, How's it going?

I still am not back to 100% after my medication withdrawal experience earlier this month.  My brain is foggy, thought process suffering, and I am having lots of aches and pains...not to mention the exhaustion and fatigue.

It is making school less enjoyable.  Especially since my classes are 3-4 hours long.


Sorry to hear about the withdrawal symptoms.  I have definitely experienced what you are going through but there is light at the end of the tunnel.   There always is!   Ease up on yourself!  I always feel that we are so tough on ourselves.  What we are going through is not some aberation (sp?) but a real illness that affects us physically and mentally.  Good luck!


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mchally - 2010-09-30 8:51 AM Hey all, How's it going?

I still am not back to 100% after my medication withdrawal experience earlier this month.  My brain is foggy, thought process suffering, and I am having lots of aches and pains...not to mention the exhaustion and fatigue.

It is making school less enjoyable.  Especially since my classes are 3-4 hours long.


For different reasons--I really feel you there. It's exactly how I'm feeling while recovering from a nasty tropical illness. I can't imagine trying to function ...

All the best to you, MELons. Hang in there--we are with you.
2010-10-03 3:20 AM
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Just keeping the flame alive--

I've been really sick for about eight days. Illness doesn't play with my head like it used to, but doggone I felt down and worthless a lot during this period of time ... DUH!!!

Anyhow, today I managed to get out of the house and (quite painfully) walk down to the beach for a swim ... and it was GLORIOUS. For a grand 20 minutes, no body aches or joint pain.

Slowly better. Am still exhausted today and even more so for the swim, but it was so worth it being in the sea and sun.
2010-10-06 3:25 PM
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I've been checking in, but haven't posted.  I think I'm partly in denial.  For those of you who don't already know, in May I quit my job and move across the country to be with my boyfriend.  While my boyfriend is around, I am happy...but when he isn't...I'm not. 

Because I was on brand-name anti-depressants I choose to taper off of all of them.  (BTW, If you ever think about going on Pristiq or Effexor, please consider that the withdrawal period from them isn't pretty!  I was on Pristiq and it took me about 8 days to not feel dizzy and have an upset stomache all the time.)

The job I left was making me miserable.  But finding a job now is a TERRIBLE time to do it.  We're strapped for finances....but I'm just not sure I can go back to work full time.  Both because I don't think I can find a job and also because I'm not sure I could handle working 40 hours a week again.  I sort of have a job right now, it's to be a substitute library page and this job - as the interviewer was hoping  - will put me into the system to possibly lead to a better position...but I don't officially start for a few weeks and the actual details are hazy!

And then there is the big elephant...in my mind...I've gained even more weight.  I'm guessing it was due to a combination of one of the medicines I WAS on, not exercising and eating to much.  But I was not at a spot where I should gain weight...Diabetes (type 2) is probably just a matter of time for me and I was trying to avoid it for as long as I can.

So I've been looking into depression studies, because I have the time and it would get me free medicine, and the most recent one has a "very common" (thats what the wording is in the information) side affect of gaining weight.

I know there is the whole do it! It'll make you feel better...but the sad thing is, right now I'm surviving.  I don't have any reason to not be able to sleep 14 hours a day...I don't have anything I HAVE to do...which is probably yet another thing going against me...
2010-10-07 9:42 AM
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Reeeeesa honey ... {{{MELON PRESS}}} ... so glad you posted in here. So important to keep checking in.

Dave can't be your happiness. Your weight can't be your happiness. You know all this. If the roles were reversed you would be giving me stellar advice (and you have ).

I wish you all the best in making your decision and you know how much I love you, and that you're in my prayers.
2010-10-07 1:25 PM
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lkc01234 - 2010-10-06 1:25 PM I've been checking in, but haven't posted.  I think I'm partly in denial.  For those of you who don't already know, in May I quit my job and move across the country to be with my boyfriend.  While my boyfriend is around, I am happy...but when he isn't...I'm not. 

Because I was on brand-name anti-depressants I choose to taper off of all of them.  (BTW, If you ever think about going on Pristiq or Effexor, please consider that the withdrawal period from them isn't pretty!  I was on Pristiq and it took me about 8 days to not feel dizzy and have an upset stomache all the time.)

The job I left was making me miserable.  But finding a job now is a TERRIBLE time to do it.  We're strapped for finances....but I'm just not sure I can go back to work full time.  Both because I don't think I can find a job and also because I'm not sure I could handle working 40 hours a week again.  I sort of have a job right now, it's to be a substitute library page and this job - as the interviewer was hoping  - will put me into the system to possibly lead to a better position...but I don't officially start for a few weeks and the actual details are hazy!

And then there is the big elephant...in my mind...I've gained even more weight.  I'm guessing it was due to a combination of one of the medicines I WAS on, not exercising and eating to much.  But I was not at a spot where I should gain weight...Diabetes (type 2) is probably just a matter of time for me and I was trying to avoid it for as long as I can.

So I've been looking into depression studies, because I have the time and it would get me free medicine, and the most recent one has a "very common" (thats what the wording is in the information) side affect of gaining weight.

I know there is the whole do it! It'll make you feel better...but the sad thing is, right now I'm surviving.  I don't have any reason to not be able to sleep 14 hours a day...I don't have anything I HAVE to do...which is probably yet another thing going against me...
You're down in the Puyallup area now, right?  If you need to get away for a girl day let me know.  I am not that far away.  It is wonderful to have something new and different to look forward to...a diversion from the everyday blah that tries to drag you down.

ETA...not that I am particularly girly, but I know how to have good clean fun (clean as in wholesome, not necessarily free of dirt or mud.  )


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Yanti...is this a new tarantula or an old pic?  Don't have another startled tarantula sans clothing incident!

BTW, this pic is awesome.

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mchally - 2010-10-08 2:32 AM Yanti...is this a new tarantula or an old pic?  Don't have another startled tarantula sans clothing incident!

BTW, this pic is awesome.


ha ha ha ha , you remember that?

Thanks--this is an old pic. I was finally able to crop and tint it to be (sort of) decent, ish.
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TriAya - 2010-10-07 2:21 PM
mchally - 2010-10-08 2:32 AM Yanti...is this a new tarantula or an old pic?  Don't have another startled tarantula sans clothing incident!

BTW, this pic is awesome.


ha ha ha ha , you remember that?

Thanks--this is an old pic. I was finally able to crop and tint it to be (sort of) decent, ish.
Don't think that I will ever forget it.  Such a mental image...and it is the type of situation I would get myself into.  

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I'm still struggling...today was going well.  I was asked to work and will be working my first 14 hours at my new job.  I have been reading this great book Beyond Blue: Surviving Depression & Anxiety and Making the Most of Bad Genes.  I was feeling tired today and was going to nap (after sleeping 12 hours...but when you don't work...) but then I got the phone call about work and got out of bed and ran my errands.  Was in the grocery store and just felt a switch flip.  I just felt overwhelmed and didn't feel like doing anything.  I'm doing the Couch to 5K plan and have a run/walk scheduled but am not sure that anything will convince me to put on my shoes and suit up...
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lkc01234 - 2010-10-19 7:00 PM I'm still struggling...today was going well.  I was asked to work and will be working my first 14 hours at my new job.  I have been reading this great book Beyond Blue: Surviving Depression & Anxiety and Making the Most of Bad Genes.  I was feeling tired today and was going to nap (after sleeping 12 hours...but when you don't work...) but then I got the phone call about work and got out of bed and ran my errands.  Was in the grocery store and just felt a switch flip.  I just felt overwhelmed and didn't feel like doing anything.  I'm doing the Couch to 5K plan and have a run/walk scheduled but am not sure that anything will convince me to put on my shoes and suit up...

Hey Lisa,
Don't be so hard on yourself.  It seems as though you have had an overwhelming few months.  Quiting your job, moving, etc..  I really feel that your body and mind need some rest.  You are taking all the right steps.  Just one step at a time!


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Hey everyone!

It's my first time posting in here. I hope you don't mind.

I just wanted to ask if anyone deals with SAD. How do you get through the winter?

Ever since I moved to Canada, I get incredibly tired and experience mood changes from fall to spring.
Last year I got a light box and it helps a bit, but it's not that great. I also asked my doctor about it last November and she said I could try some antidepressants from about now to March/April, but I was hesitant.

I'm really feeling the effects this year. I actually started dreading this winter as the other was ending. I tried to soak up every second of summer. I started feeling exhausted, bone-tired about mid-September. Now I'm feeling the mood effects.

I'm doing what I can. I'm working out a lot, trying to eat well (but also get intense carb/sugar cravings with SAD, which I hate), planning winter activities, and using my light box but I'm still so tired, moody, sad, and very irritable. It feels like I'm putting so much energy into not being tired and miserable.

Hmm. I guess I don't really have any other questions except does anyone else go through this? How do you deal? Thanks for listening.
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Firenze - Unfortunately I don't deal with SAD...mine is just all year round.

And things are piling up on my "I don't want this to happen" pile and I'm not sure what to do.  I don't want to continue with my couch to 5K program because I don't want to be alone with my thoughts.  All a walk/run does is give me time to dwell on what I'm doing/done wrong and what I should be doing.

Why is it that when I don't have time...like I'm somewhere else or in bed...I have all the energy in the world to do the things.  But when I actually have time I have absolutely no interest to lift a finger...
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Wanted to check in--and tell you all you have been in my thoughts. I wish this thread was not 34 pages long...!

Since the heat stroke in August, I haven't been able to do anything. I am in touch w/a doc who is an expert in EHS treatment, so hopefully he can help. But w/o exercise, even w/100mg of Zoloft, I struggle w/regulating my moods. I have been eating self-indulgently and finally started eating healthy again this week--I hope that helps my overall feelings of well-being. Some days are fine, some days I'm irritable, tired, grouchy. I need exercise, and I don't have any idea when I can get back to it!!!

I know this isn't as bad as SAD, etc,. but it's still hard.
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Hi all! Firenze, Reeeesa, JoseyWales ... thanks for checking in.

It's not that one's own struggles are harder or not than anyone else's ... it's just our own stuff and what we get to deal with.

I'm in a great place despite having been seriously ill for over a month now. What that tells me is that I can feel okay ... even if I'm not!

Many things have helped me immensely. The top four are 1) support group, 2) gratitude, 3) writing therapy, and 4) meditation.

I've found even if I can do nothing and want to do nothing and care about nothing on any given day, I can still do #4, even if just for a few minutes, and it does help.
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