David Gillen's Group - FULL (Page 27)

I'm not sure about the Double-Deca, but I know some of these really long ultra events are held on relative short courses.  The 3100 mile Self-Trancendence consists of "5649 laps of a .5488 of a mile course (883 meters) in the timespan of 51 days.", and some the the ultra-Ironman events are held in a pool not OW! 

Sound likes fun, right!  Who's in with me!?

Just a bunch of crazy nuts in my opinion.  Gotta love it.

I was checking out the website for the WS100 just yesterday actually; it is on my to do list sometime before I'm 35.  I just want the buckle!

I prefer these races!!!  I have done the 2nd one, I am just waiting for the other one to expand to Dallas.

http://www.saketvora.com/kkc/index.php
www.beermile.com

Dave,

 BTW, I ending up riding the first loop we did on Saturday last night.  I actually rode alittle farther because I messed up the course slightly.  I missed a few turns and ended up back tracking but oh well.

Dave,

Do you think it would be a bad idea to do the Hotter 'n Hell 100 this year since it is 2 weeks before my HIM?  The only reason I am considering it is that I know I have the endurance this year because of my HIM training and since I will probably focus on sprint/oly next year and try to work on speed next year might be out.  I know I have the options of the shorter routes if I want to experience the HH100 but I know me and I will want to do the whole thing if I go.

I originally thought about doing the HHH about one month before Redman last year, but I decided not to b/c 1) It's really crowded 2) There are a lot of inexperienced riders 3) There are a lot of crashes 4) The congestion could make it difficult to keep my own pace (either I'd be tempted to push it and/or draft or I'd be stuck behind slower riders!) 5) I wanted to get in a quality ride that weekend.

Thus, my personal opinion is that you should not do HHH, especially 2 weeks before Prairieman. It might take you more than a couple of days to recover and you should be doing shorter, more intense stuff the last couple of weeks.

I definitely want to do the HHH at least once just for the experience, but I don't want to sacrifice my training to do so.

Dave,

 I was just curious if you would be willing to share your recipe for "Gillenade" with us?  I am trying to cut down on my cost and figure this would definately help. 

First of all, Gillenade is a definite work in progress and might be for some time.   I don't really have a set recipe as I tend to tweak and vary it a little from week to week.   This weekend will be a great test as it will be my first "race simulation" brick with it.  I'm more than happy to share my recipe(s) with everyone, but you'll need to alter them to suit your needs.  Before I write up all the gory details of my formulas, let me give you a simple recipe that I started with.  I started with Recipe #1 from here.  It is designed to mimic Gatorade, nothing more nothing less.  The trick is getting the flavoring right.  I didn't really like the taste of it with Kool-aid, so lately I've been using the new Propel-type powder packets with some success.  These are more expensive than Kool-aid, but suit my tastes better. 

Ken, this might suit your needs, but if you're willing to get a little more detailed you should read about the benefits of a complex carbohydrate called MaltoDextrin (MD) here and here .  Many of the commercial products (including all of Hammer's gels and powders) out there are primarily MD.

I like using MD (along with table sugar (sucrose) and dextrose (glucose)) to make all my nutrtional products:

1. Gillen-ade - a Gatorade-like drink that has about <7% concentration of sugars
2. Gillen-ergy - a concentrated "feed bottle" that contains about 1100 calories and about 3500 mg of sodium.  Each sip from this bottle has about 80 calories and must be taken with lots of water.  This is meant for long rides.
3. Gillen-durance - an Endurox like recovery drink that has about a 3:1 or 4:1 ratio of carbs to protein (whey)
   

I'm using "100% Whey Protein" from Optimum Nutrion that I get for about $50 for a 10lb bag.  I was using this just for protein shakes long before I started using MD.

I used Gatorade Endurance (GE) for most of last year and it's a great product, but it doesn't provide enough calories on its own.   So, you have to supplement with gels, and then you need to take gels with water.  So, now you need GE, gels, and water on all your rides which can become a little bit of a hassle not to mention expensive!  So this year, I'm trying the feed bottle approach instead where I have all my caloric and sodium needs in one bottle and then just take water for hydration.

Damn!  I meant to keep this short.  Oh well.  Ken, we can talk a lot more about this on Saturday. 

Everyone else, let me know if your interesting in hearing more about this and I'll try to write something up.  Otherwise, I won't bore you with all my "potions" as my wife calls them!

David,

 Thanks, we can definately talk on Saturday.  I really am trying to avoid carrying food during my HIM and like your "feed" bottle.  I was looking at perpetuum and infinite and both are real expensive along with other drawbacks. 

See you Saturday.

Sweet chopper!  I bet he feels really cool cruising down the street, nodding at the ladies in that bad boy!

That's great that you bought this for him.  I have very found memories of riding my bike as a kid.  Maybe that's why I like cycling so much now.  It reminds me of being Noah's age! 

LOL-ROF!  My wife will laugh even harder when I show this to her.   BTW, she loves Gillmore Girls.  Thanks for the comic relief. 

How'd the move go, Johnny?  Do you like your new place?  All moved in? 

Anyone thinking about doing the Dallas White Rock marathon this year?  I'm thinking about signing up.