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tmoran80 - 2011-01-21 6:55 PM I have been really happy with my plan as I am combining marathon training with triathlon.  One question though - The way my plan worked out is that my down week for triathlon training is coming on a 13 mile long run for marathon training.  Next week is the opposite as my traithlon training increases but my marathon training goes down.  I kind of like that as I thin kit balances it out but I am wondering if I should just have one straight week of both being a down week?  Thoughts?

razorxp - 2011-01-21 4:33 PM Hi Deb, what exactly is cheekey monkey???? lol Just wondering

Of course my in no better...  Old nickname razor and I used to race jetski's (seado xp) So I Just combined them.

cheekymonkeys1 - 2011-01-21 9:36 PM

LOL It's a British saying most often used when refering to a child. I guess it's like being a 'sassy child'. It's normally used in an endearing way.

razorxp - 2011-01-21 9:55 PM Sweet I have a long run tomorrow and it will be about 10 deg with a 5deg  w/c.   Anyone want to run outside with me??? or for me..lol

cheekymonkeys1 - 2011-01-21 10:04 PM I watched the 10 commandments - Interesting stuff. I am going to try and divy up my food a little more.

 'So we are a few weeks into everyones training.
How are you feeling? Any questions in your plans? Too hard/easy"

hhhmm My 'official' 20 week training plan starts a week on Monday, so I guess everyting I am doing now is leading up to it and my HM which is in 4 weeks. I still have serious worries about getting enough time/mileage in on the bike / run  (I know, I know -  'just do the plan' I did hear you - doesn't stop me worrying - the people who say that most likely do NOT do 11 mm and 16 mph rides)

Did nothing today. Yet another snowy day - 7 inches. Have a 10 mile run planned for tomorrow AM. I'll be out there a while so I am going to try some 'run nutrition'. I have a choice between 'shot bloks', or 'hammer gel', both of which look pretty gruesome. I am expecting to use it around an hour into the run and see what happens.

kcgolf - 2011-01-21 10:05 PM

Hey coach - I guess I should be running outside a bit more  - can you give me an example or idea - how many in door compared to outdoor runs a week in the winter - brr it is cold out there LOL

razorxp - 2011-01-21 10:11 PM



If possible try to eat something before the run just as you would before a race.  Try to eat a couple hrs before the run to see how it sets in your stomach.

razorxp - 2011-01-21 8:55 PM Sweet I have a long run tomorrow and it will be about 10 deg with a 5deg  w/c.   Anyone want to run outside with me??? or for me..lol

tmoran80 - 2011-01-22 12:36 AM So this might be a long post but it is kind of a long story - sorry

In 2008 during my marathon training when I hit around 18-20 miles a week running I would start to get these heart palpatations.  Kind of felt like I was going down a roller coaster and I would get them sometimes every 30 seconds.  I ended up in the ER twice with each time them telling me I was healthy as a horse and had a resting heart rate of a professional athlete in the low 50's.  Needless to say I was extremely worried and it wrecked my training in 2008.  i figured I was going to drop at any time during a run.

So after the marathon and my training subsided they went away.  Training for 2009 started and when I hit 18-20 miles a week they started again.  Went to ER and same results.  Went to a cardiologist and did a 24 hour monitor, echo cardiogram and stress tests.  Everything came out fine.  But during my last visit they had me hooked up to an EKG and I told the doc I was experiencing it and they were able to catch it.  I was diagnosed with a benign irregular heartbeat and I guess they call it a PVC (Premature Ventricular Contraction).  Doctor said I should be able to continue training and would prescribe meds if I couldn't tolerate it anymore.  I felt a littel better that I was diagnosed with something and just considered it "normal".

After the 2009 chicago Marathon I started triathlon training.  I was pushing myself way harder than marathon training and did not get one episode of these heart beats for the past year.

Well last night I started getting them and have had them all day today and guess what?  I ran 19.5 miles last week.  It is really weird that I only get these from running!  My wife hinted she wants me to stop training for the marathon but I feel fine.  Not really sure what to do?  I am going to schedule another apointment with doctor and I am also going to talk with my drummers dad who is a cardiologist.  We will see what happens.  I was really excited about this marathon and am 99% sure that nothing will happen but its the 1% that is in the back of my mind.  I would never do anything that would harm me but I am just baffled why the running a certain distance per week triggers this.

ltcsh1 - 2011-01-22 7:47 AM Dave-My training is going great.  One of my goals was to run consistant 12 minute miles for at least two miles.  Well I am under that (aroiund 10:30) and I don't feel overly gassed after. This week will be a good test as I add a little more time.  Pumped to keep going.

tmoran80 - 2011-01-21 11:36 PM So this might be a long post but it is kind of a long story - sorry

In 2008 during my marathon training when I hit around 18-20 miles a week running I would start to get these heart palpatations.  Kind of felt like I was going down a roller coaster and I would get them sometimes every 30 seconds.  I ended up in the ER twice with each time them telling me I was healthy as a horse and had a resting heart rate of a professional athlete in the low 50's.  Needless to say I was extremely worried and it wrecked my training in 2008.  i figured I was going to drop at any time during a run.

So after the marathon and my training subsided they went away.  Training for 2009 started and when I hit 18-20 miles a week they started again.  Went to ER and same results.  Went to a cardiologist and did a 24 hour monitor, echo cardiogram and stress tests.  Everything came out fine.  But during my last visit they had me hooked up to an EKG and I told the doc I was experiencing it and they were able to catch it.  I was diagnosed with a benign irregular heartbeat and I guess they call it a PVC (Premature Ventricular Contraction).  Doctor said I should be able to continue training and would prescribe meds if I couldn't tolerate it anymore.  I felt a littel better that I was diagnosed with something and just considered it "normal".

After the 2009 chicago Marathon I started triathlon training.  I was pushing myself way harder than marathon training and did not get one episode of these heart beats for the past year.

Well last night I started getting them and have had them all day today and guess what?  I ran 19.5 miles last week.  It is really weird that I only get these from running!  My wife hinted she wants me to stop training for the marathon but I feel fine.  Not really sure what to do?  I am going to schedule another apointment with doctor and I am also going to talk with my drummers dad who is a cardiologist.  We will see what happens.  I was really excited about this marathon and am 99% sure that nothing will happen but its the 1% that is in the back of my mind.  I would never do anything that would harm me but I am just baffled why the running a certain distance per week triggers this.

cheekymonkeys1 - 2011-01-21 10:26 PM

I don't normally eat anything before a race either.

My run is at 6:30 am so I likely won't be eating anything a couple of hours before hand. Would half an hour still do the trick? Or is that cutting it too close?  Should I do the shot bloks then too or some 'real food'?

tmoran80 - 2011-01-21 11:36 PM So this might be a long post but it is kind of a long story - sorry

In 2008 during my marathon training when I hit around 18-20 miles a week running I would start to get these heart palpatations.  Kind of felt like I was going down a roller coaster and I would get them sometimes every 30 seconds.  I ended up in the ER twice with each time them telling me I was healthy as a horse and had a resting heart rate of a professional athlete in the low 50's.  Needless to say I was extremely worried and it wrecked my training in 2008.  i figured I was going to drop at any time during a run.

So after the marathon and my training subsided they went away.  Training for 2009 started and when I hit 18-20 miles a week they started again.  Went to ER and same results.  Went to a cardiologist and did a 24 hour monitor, echo cardiogram and stress tests.  Everything came out fine.  But during my last visit they had me hooked up to an EKG and I told the doc I was experiencing it and they were able to catch it.  I was diagnosed with a benign irregular heartbeat and I guess they call it a PVC (Premature Ventricular Contraction).  Doctor said I should be able to continue training and would prescribe meds if I couldn't tolerate it anymore.  I felt a littel better that I was diagnosed with something and just considered it "normal".

After the 2009 chicago Marathon I started triathlon training.  I was pushing myself way harder than marathon training and did not get one episode of these heart beats for the past year.

Well last night I started getting them and have had them all day today and guess what?  I ran 19.5 miles last week.  It is really weird that I only get these from running!  My wife hinted she wants me to stop training for the marathon but I feel fine.  Not really sure what to do?  I am going to schedule another apointment with doctor and I am also going to talk with my drummers dad who is a cardiologist.  We will see what happens.  I was really excited about this marathon and am 99% sure that nothing will happen but its the 1% that is in the back of my mind.  I would never do anything that would harm me but I am just baffled why the running a certain distance per week triggers this.

IceManScott - 2011-01-22 9:58 AM

Years ago I was on track to be a doctor.  Premed student, biochemistry, scholoarship to med school.  Then I decided the world had other ills a doctor couldn't fix.  I became a community organizer and then a journalist fighting for truth, justice and the world way (One planet, one people.)  Somewhere along the way I gave up the right to give medical advice. 

The human body is a wonderful machine.  But a sensitive one.  Little things can toss it off.  A loss of electrolytes.  Not enough cals.  Not enough of the right vitamins, with calcium and phosphate being key for muscles like the heart.   Diet can toss it off.  Too much sweating without enough focus on replacing important chemicals can toss it off.  So that's why they make doctors and machines to measure heart efficiency.  My advice is if you feel like you need to go to a doctor you probably should. 

Once in a very great while I will feel my heart go boom, boom boomla boom, and then go back into tempo.  Usually it is after a very long exertion.  I take it as my heart hitting a reset switch and recalibrating my electric pulses. I'm good with that.  One day my heart will stop.  I don't want it any time soon, but it will.  I'm also good with that.  Cancer and aging puts things in perspective.

OK, going to figure out cal prediction for today and my fueling needs.  This is NEW!

Then 90 minute low rpm high power workout with 3 X 15 min climbs.  Then 45 mins of speed work on the treadmill.

Loving this.  If I drop dead doing it, tell people I died doing what I love.  And I couldn't have been happier.  

ltcsh1 - 2011-01-22 7:47 AM Dave-My training is going great.  One of my goals was to run consistant 12 minute miles for at least two miles.  Well I am under that (aroiund 10:30) and I don't feel overly gassed after. This week will be a good test as I add a little more time.  Pumped to keep going.

tmoran80 - 2011-01-22 12:36 AM So this might be a long post but it is kind of a long story - sorry

In 2008 during my marathon training when I hit around 18-20 miles a week running I would start to get these heart palpatations.  Kind of felt like I was going down a roller coaster and I would get them sometimes every 30 seconds.  I ended up in the ER twice with each time them telling me I was healthy as a horse and had a resting heart rate of a professional athlete in the low 50's.  Needless to say I was extremely worried and it wrecked my training in 2008.  i figured I was going to drop at any time during a run.

So after the marathon and my training subsided they went away.  Training for 2009 started and when I hit 18-20 miles a week they started again.  Went to ER and same results.  Went to a cardiologist and did a 24 hour monitor, echo cardiogram and stress tests.  Everything came out fine.  But during my last visit they had me hooked up to an EKG and I told the doc I was experiencing it and they were able to catch it.  I was diagnosed with a benign irregular heartbeat and I guess they call it a PVC (Premature Ventricular Contraction).  Doctor said I should be able to continue training and would prescribe meds if I couldn't tolerate it anymore.  I felt a littel better that I was diagnosed with something and just considered it "normal".

After the 2009 chicago Marathon I started triathlon training.  I was pushing myself way harder than marathon training and did not get one episode of these heart beats for the past year.

Well last night I started getting them and have had them all day today and guess what?  I ran 19.5 miles last week.  It is really weird that I only get these from running!  My wife hinted she wants me to stop training for the marathon but I feel fine.  Not really sure what to do?  I am going to schedule another appointment with doctor and I am also going to talk with my drummers dad who is a cardiologist.  We will see what happens.  I was really excited about this marathon and am 99% sure that nothing will happen but its the 1% that is in the back of my mind.  I would never do anything that would harm me but I am just baffled why the running a certain distance per week triggers this.