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Left Brain - 2013-01-09 8:34 PM

I have no problem with Sosa, Bonds, McGuire, Clemens, etc. not being inducted, ever.  Their baseball stats were inflated by their use of PED's.....there is no question about that, and since we don't know to what extent is helped their stats, they don't get in.  McGuire gets it.

Pete Rose is a different story....he's paid his penalty.  I agree that the HOF means nothing without the greatest ballplayer of his generation.

 

I agree with the first part.  With Pete Rose, what gets him in a jam are the words "integrity of the game".  That's the rationale many folks use when they talk about why steroid users should not be admitted.  The problem for Rose wasn't purely the gambling: it was suspicion that he may have bet against the Reds while acting as their manager.  That certainly goes against the integrity of the game.

Of course I'll be the first to say the league isn't very consistent.  Read a little about the change in the spitball rule and the 17 players that were "grandfathered" and allowed to keep pitching that way.  Maybe the guys in our era should've been allowed to keep juicing since they built careers on it? :P

 

I've never heard an allegation that he bet AGAINST the Reds at all. He admitted to betting on the Reds but was steadfast that he never bet against them. 

The problem with Pete is that he was a really, really bad liar.  Pete steadfastly denied betting on baseball, lie.  Then he denied betting on the Reds, lie.  He denied betting against his team...lie?  Who the heck knows!  Baseball was crystal clear throughout the years...unlike steroids/HGH, betting on baseball has been the ultimate cardinal sin since the Black Sox scandal.

That said, Pete Rose belongs in the HOF.  He should have been banned from coaching and/or directly benefitting financially from MLB once he was found guilty, but the man who played the game the way it was meant to be played, Charlie Hustle, deserves his spot in the HOF.

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