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2013-05-03 4:15 PM
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Subject: RE: Elementary principals will be able to paddle misbehaving students
KateTri1 - 2013-05-03 2:40 PM
Aarondb4 - 2013-05-03 3:25 PM
KateTri1 - 2013-05-03 1:23 PM
Aarondb4 - 2013-05-03 2:38 PM
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Kido - 2013-05-02 4:49 PM

It's a sad commentary on humans if striking a child is what we feel like we have to resort to for punishment.

Basically, "my patience has run out trying to be reasonable, so I will just hit you."

Spanking doesn't have to be out of frustration and should never be done out of anger. It is a consequence same as any other. You may not like that particular consequence but that doesn't make it invalid for use. 

If I tell a kid not to do something or they will be spanked, they hear, understand, then proceed to do it anyway the consequence was already laid out and they will receive it. There isn't any anger involved and there shouldn't be. 

I could just as easily say it is a sad commentary that we choose to put our children in time out and imprison them in their own time out space instead of logically reasoning with them. What does that teach? That if you are bad you will get locked up? 

Hmmmm ya know, both sound like real life. If I go up to a couple in a bar and ask the wife for pizza there is a good chance I'll get smacked. If I get drunk then drive home I'll get locked up. If I mouth off to the cop who is trying to arrest me I will get smacked or tazed, they won't "be reasonable" with me. 

Different consequences work on different kids and work for different parents. It is up to the parent to figure out what works for them or their kid. But condemning one parents choice is out of line IMO. 

Now I agree that a beating in the Walmart parking lot because the parent is finally peeved off is not an appropriate use of spanking. But in the context I laid out above it is a viable option. 

But of course... you and I don't have kids so we don't know anything and really shouldn't be discussing this!

That's getting really old. 

Thanks for your contribution to the discussion. 

hey.. mr sarcasm. Whenever someone writes that it's like a slap in the face to the many of us who do not carry that same judgement. Maybe there are some on BT who would think that, but most of us DON'T. 

Hey Mrs. Snarky. Please review the sarc font thread then note my use of it and the obligatory smilie. Then have yourself a better Friday!

That's the first time I've ever been called "Snarky", Apologies.

What I really meant to say is that I think most people appreciate thoughtful responses. Personally, I wouldn't judge someones thoughts on a subject just because they haven't had direct experience.

And I don't think I'm unique..

No worries, both comments were in light hearted jest. Hard to convey thru typing. 



2013-05-03 10:50 PM
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Well said Aaron. "research" may "prove" otherwise. Time out(though mental water boarding) works. Corporal punishment rarely works, well other than the middle east..
2013-05-04 5:26 AM
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Subject: RE: Elementary principals will be able to paddle misbehaving students
Aarondb4 - 2013-05-03 5:15 PM
KateTri1 - 2013-05-03 2:40 PM
Aarondb4 - 2013-05-03 3:25 PM
KateTri1 - 2013-05-03 1:23 PM
Aarondb4 - 2013-05-03 2:38 PM
KateTri1 - 2013-05-03 12:24 PM
Aarondb4 - 2013-05-03 1:05 PM
Kido - 2013-05-02 4:49 PM

It's a sad commentary on humans if striking a child is what we feel like we have to resort to for punishment.

Basically, "my patience has run out trying to be reasonable, so I will just hit you."

Spanking doesn't have to be out of frustration and should never be done out of anger. It is a consequence same as any other. You may not like that particular consequence but that doesn't make it invalid for use. 

If I tell a kid not to do something or they will be spanked, they hear, understand, then proceed to do it anyway the consequence was already laid out and they will receive it. There isn't any anger involved and there shouldn't be. 

I could just as easily say it is a sad commentary that we choose to put our children in time out and imprison them in their own time out space instead of logically reasoning with them. What does that teach? That if you are bad you will get locked up? 

Hmmmm ya know, both sound like real life. If I go up to a couple in a bar and ask the wife for pizza there is a good chance I'll get smacked. If I get drunk then drive home I'll get locked up. If I mouth off to the cop who is trying to arrest me I will get smacked or tazed, they won't "be reasonable" with me. 

Different consequences work on different kids and work for different parents. It is up to the parent to figure out what works for them or their kid. But condemning one parents choice is out of line IMO. 

Now I agree that a beating in the Walmart parking lot because the parent is finally peeved off is not an appropriate use of spanking. But in the context I laid out above it is a viable option. 

But of course... you and I don't have kids so we don't know anything and really shouldn't be discussing this!

That's getting really old. 

Thanks for your contribution to the discussion. 

hey.. mr sarcasm. Whenever someone writes that it's like a slap in the face to the many of us who do not carry that same judgement. Maybe there are some on BT who would think that, but most of us DON'T. 

Hey Mrs. Snarky. Please review the sarc font thread then note my use of it and the obligatory smilie. Then have yourself a better Friday!

That's the first time I've ever been called "Snarky", Apologies.

What I really meant to say is that I think most people appreciate thoughtful responses. Personally, I wouldn't judge someones thoughts on a subject just because they haven't had direct experience.

And I don't think I'm unique..

No worries, both comments were in light hearted jest. Hard to convey thru typing. 

cool. I'd really like to be snarky though.. I just can't seem to come up with the right words quick enough. 

When I was in school going to the principal's office was a really really bad scary thought. My first grade teacher would take kids by the chin and lead them from the classroom.. I certainly didn't want a chin grab. As a teacher, if I did something like that today, the brat kid's parents would try to sue me or something. 

2013-05-07 11:22 AM
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I went to a Franciscan high school and paddling would have been a vacation. I had a Brother pull my hair and twist my head, and then back-hand me in the teeth for something another kid did! I don't remember if the other kid owned up to it or how the Brother figured it out he had the wrong guy, but he kind of apologized., saying "he owed me one, and would keep it in mind next time I acted up".  Another brother was the wrestling coach and told me, (all boys school) " okay Ried, you want to   F$%K? Okay, we'll F$%K, but I'll be on top, meet me in the hallway if you want". ( I declined). I saw a kid get his face smashed into the chalkboard and then dragged down so hard his chin broke the shelf holding the chalk and the erasers. That definitely got our attention... 

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