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mdg2003 - 2012-10-29 8:08 AM

GomesBolt - 2012-10-28 7:14 PM Yeah mdg,
That was my comment when she came out and said she "was responsible but...blah blah blah intelligence..."

Taking responsibility without being held accountable is not taking responsibility at all. It was a nerf sword she jumped on.

I'd give mad props if there was someone who said "this was on my watch, it was my call, I take responsibility and any punishment for doing so."

What I'm thinking is that there is more to the event BECAUSE she took the public hit for the administration. Why isn't the GOP screaming for her head too? I know they're focused on smearing the POTUS, but taking Hillary down a peg has to be pretty high on their list too. Seems that having your SOS resign in disgrace would be very damaging to this admin. in it's own right. Unless the buck doesn't stop with Hillary.

I don't recall all the names, but there were several Repub's calling for her resignation back in mid to late September even before she fell on the sword.

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tuwood - 2012-10-29 7:43 AM

The real problem is the Presidents complete lack of transparency on this.

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mdg2003 - 2012-10-29 8:17 AM

tuwood - 2012-10-29 7:43 AM

The real problem is the Presidents complete lack of transparency on this.

lol, love that movie

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Cheers!

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tuwood - 2012-10-29 9:12 AM

mdg2003 - 2012-10-29 8:08 AM

GomesBolt - 2012-10-28 7:14 PM Yeah mdg,
That was my comment when she came out and said she "was responsible but...blah blah blah intelligence..."

Taking responsibility without being held accountable is not taking responsibility at all. It was a nerf sword she jumped on.

I'd give mad props if there was someone who said "this was on my watch, it was my call, I take responsibility and any punishment for doing so."

What I'm thinking is that there is more to the event BECAUSE she took the public hit for the administration. Why isn't the GOP screaming for her head too? I know they're focused on smearing the POTUS, but taking Hillary down a peg has to be pretty high on their list too. Seems that having your SOS resign in disgrace would be very damaging to this admin. in it's own right. Unless the buck doesn't stop with Hillary.

I don't recall all the names, but there were several Repub's calling for her resignation back in mid to late September even before she fell on the sword.

That was just part of our "War on Women."

Sorry to bump this to the top of the page with the hurricopalypse going on, but I was thinking some OTH discussion might be good for the afflicted (other than hurricane).

Seriously, whenever a storm is in "the box" Florida companies' productivity plummets because our servers are being crashed by people refreshing and streaming Weather Underground's Wundermap...

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CBarnes - 2012-10-28 3:43 PM

One of my questions seems to be lost on the media. Why was he there on that day to begin with? That was not the Embassy. The Embassy is in Tripoli the Ambassador was concerned about security in Benghazi The consulate was not up to standards so why was the Ambassador in a location with know terror threats with no real security in a sub standard building on 9/11? Who told him to go there and why?

I heard and I don't know if it's accurate but that one of the two locations in Benghazi was actually a CIA safe house and not part of the State Dept. and that he was there meeting with the Turkish Ambassador regarding getting arms to the Libyan militia. The Turkish Ambassador left unharmed and shortly after our Ambassador was attacked.

Anyone hear or read anything about a US gun waling program going on in Libya, were guns being sent to Syria? Is it Syria that is having a skirmish with Israel?

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crusevegas - 2012-11-12 12:30 PM

crusevegas - 2012-10-28 4:50 PM

CBarnes - 2012-10-28 3:43 PM

One of my questions seems to be lost on the media. Why was he there on that day to begin with? That was not the Embassy. The Embassy is in Tripoli the Ambassador was concerned about security in Benghazi The consulate was not up to standards so why was the Ambassador in a location with know terror threats with no real security in a sub standard building on 9/11? Who told him to go there and why?

I heard and I don't know if it's accurate but that one of the two locations in Benghazi was actually a CIA safe house and not part of the State Dept. and that he was there meeting with the Turkish Ambassador regarding getting arms to the Libyan militia. The Turkish Ambassador left unharmed and shortly after our Ambassador was attacked.

Anyone hear or read anything about a US gun waling program going on in Libya, were guns being sent to Syria? Is it Syria that is having a skirmish with Israel?

Not sure about gun waling, but I've heard a few reports and read a couple articles (conservative sources of course) that talked about a Gun Walker style program going on in both Libya and Syria. I chalked it up to pre-election politics so I'm not sure if any of it's true or not. Also, if we are "helping" the rebels I would assume that the "help" would entail arms so I'm not sure if it's anywhere near as controversial as the US/Mexican gun running exercise.

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This has nothing to do with anything, but drudge has this picture of Hillary up today. Makes me laugh every time I see it:

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tuwood - 2012-11-12 11:26 AM

crusevegas - 2012-11-12 12:30 PM

crusevegas - 2012-10-28 4:50 PM

CBarnes - 2012-10-28 3:43 PM

One of my questions seems to be lost on the media. Why was he there on that day to begin with? That was not the Embassy. The Embassy is in Tripoli the Ambassador was concerned about security in Benghazi The consulate was not up to standards so why was the Ambassador in a location with know terror threats with no real security in a sub standard building on 9/11? Who told him to go there and why?

I heard and I don't know if it's accurate but that one of the two locations in Benghazi was actually a CIA safe house and not part of the State Dept. and that he was there meeting with the Turkish Ambassador regarding getting arms to the Libyan militia. The Turkish Ambassador left unharmed and shortly after our Ambassador was attacked.

Anyone hear or read anything about a US gun waling program going on in Libya, were guns being sent to Syria? Is it Syria that is having a skirmish with Israel?

Not sure about gun waling, but I've heard a few reports and read a couple articles (conservative sources of course) that talked about a Gun Walker style program going on in both Libya and Syria. I chalked it up to pre-election politics so I'm not sure if any of it's true or not. Also, if we are "helping" the rebels I would assume that the "help" would entail arms so I'm not sure if it's anywhere near as controversial as the US/Mexican gun running exercise.

Well played.

I heard some of the weapons intended for Syria/Libya actually got into the Taliban's hands. Like you I heard this from conservative sources which have an agenda but it will be interesting to see. If we can ever get the truth.

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