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2011-01-12 2:38 PM in reply to: #3294951 |
New user 125 UK | Subject: RE: njc65 Mentor Group OPEN andrew.robbins - 2011-01-12 6:19 PM Hi Neil! Room for a little one well not so little after Christmas!! Third year of Tri all pool based sprint distances mainly in the North of England. Swimming is dodgy (100m FC is a triumph), biking and running is improving. Can add more later.......... Andrew. Hi Andrew, good to have you in, fill in your details when you get a moment. |
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2011-01-12 7:03 PM in reply to: #3294480 |
Extreme Veteran 746 | Subject: RE: njc65 Mentor Group OPEN Thanks for letting me in Neil. I'm not going to argue even if you do mention the cricket though cos our players sucked. Probably cos the majority were from New South Wales, lol. As for the England/Australia rivalry thing I sort of grew up with it cos my Dad is English. He comes from Wigan which is near Lancashire. As to the seeing how things work out I think that's what I'm going to do cos my longest ride so far is 3.08 miles including hills in 30 mins so it's probably the swimming I'm going to struggle with the most although I'm going to do that as one of my xt days and make up the rest of the time prescribed on my plan with cycling. I'm also looking to work my way up to and use the 400m Beginner endurance plan and/or get lessons at my gym when they start. |
2011-01-13 2:12 PM in reply to: #3293035 |
Member 7 | Subject: RE: njc65 Mentor Group OPEN hey nicole, i hear you on the soreness issue. i have to confess, i know that i do not stretch nearly enough and with all the training, i know that has to change or i can hurt myself. what is your normal stretching routine? and you do them before and after your work outs? that's pretty awesome. last question - i see that you are a gold member of the site - are you finding that helpful, the specialized training schedule? at this point, i have just found from this site and others general training guides, so i am considering purchasing something from this site. your thoughts? hope your training is going well. i am off to the gym for run/walk and a bit of biking. my poor shins! emily |
2011-01-13 2:17 PM in reply to: #3257876 |
New user 125 UK | Subject: RE: njc65 Mentor Group CLOSED Hi Gang (Go to Settings -> Training Blog Customization -> Friends
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2011-01-13 9:50 PM in reply to: #3257876 |
Extreme Veteran 746 | Subject: RE: njc65 Mentor Group CLOSED On the subject of stretching- Are there any stretches that work for the bike? I've worked out my walking ones, and'll probably continue them with the running as it works pretty much the same muscle groups but I feel really sore after the bike and don't really know how to prevent it or how to cool down from it. Generally I just get off the bike, walk it to the back yard to put it away and then come in the house and have my post workout food etc |
2011-01-14 1:17 AM in reply to: #3298658 |
New user 125 UK | Subject: RE: njc65 Mentor Group CLOSED suzielea - 2011-01-14 3:50 AM On the subject of stretching- Are there any stretches that work for the bike? I've worked out my walking ones, and'll probably continue them with the running as it works pretty much the same muscle groups but I feel really sore after the bike and don't really know how to prevent it or how to cool down from it. Generally I just get off the bike, walk it to the back yard to put it away and then come in the house and have my post workout food etc Suzie the main muscle groups used when cycling are the upper thigh muscles (quadriceps); the backside muscles (gluteus maximus), and, to a lesser extent, the calf muscles (gastrocnemius and soleus) so focus on these when stretching after a ride. I stretch all the major muscle groups after a run, ride of swim, it is so so so important to stretch after exercise, I neglected this and missed the first 4 months of last year with back and hamstring problems. Happy to post some basic stretches if this helps. Neil |
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2011-01-14 1:32 AM in reply to: #3298790 |
Extreme Veteran 746 | Subject: RE: njc65 Mentor Group CLOSED Thanks. I've got good stretch for the guads and calf muscles (they're the ones at the bottom of my leg right?) but not for the backside so if you can offer me some of them I should be right. I also found some good hip ones during my yoga class last week but need to go back and pay more attention so I can remember them properly as they along with my ankles seem to be the things I have the most problems with. |
2011-01-14 1:40 PM in reply to: #3298790 |
Member 7 | Subject: RE: njc65 Mentor Group CLOSED neil, i would love if you could post some general stretches to do after run/bike/swim. most helpful, thanks - emily |
2011-01-14 3:11 PM in reply to: #3257876 |
2011-01-16 7:01 PM in reply to: #3300233 |
Extreme Veteran 746 | Subject: RE: njc65 Mentor Group CLOSED Thanks Neil I'll try them next week. I'm also going to post the training I plan to do next week so you can keep me accountable, lol Tues: 30 min walk Wed: Swim (hopefully 75m) Thurs: 15 min TM intervals, 10 min bike intervals and possible strenghth training depending on how the sunburn is doing Fri: Rest day Sat: 3 mile walk Sun: 60 min walk and/or 40 min bike ride. |
2011-01-17 3:01 PM in reply to: #3303318 |
New user 125 UK | Subject: RE: njc65 Mentor Group CLOSED suzielea - 2011-01-17 1:01 AM Thanks Neil I shall be watching the log with great interest! Looks a good week ahead, enjoy...oh how I wish I could get a bit of sunburn in the UK right now!I'll try them next week. I'm also going to post the training I plan to do next week so you can keep me accountable, lol Tues: 30 min walk Wed: Swim (hopefully 75m) Thurs: 15 min TM intervals, 10 min bike intervals and possible strenghth training depending on how the sunburn is doing Fri: Rest day Sat: 3 mile walk Sun: 60 min walk and/or 40 min bike ride. |
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2011-01-17 3:05 PM in reply to: #3257876 |
New user 125 UK | Subject: RE: njc65 Mentor Group CLOSED Hi Folks My you are a quiet bunch, just busily going about your training! Seriously well done those of you who are training, great stuff but I would like to make this a bit more of an interactive forum. Lets tell each other what we have been doing, how we are feeling, throw questions at eachother etc! I'm happy to post general advice and guidance and will be doing something on the importance of consistency in training this week and then something on nutrition but come on folks lets be hearing from you I'm feeling a bit lonely!! N x |
2011-01-17 7:14 PM in reply to: #3304754 |
New user 15 Napier | Subject: RE: njc65 Mentor Group CLOSED Hi everyone, had my first event last weekend, a mini sprint 200m/14km/2.5. Went heaps better than I thought. I thought about 1.05 but did it in 1.01, and that was with a real slow swim/bike transition. ( I spent a good couple of minutes putting my race number on !!. Tip - put race number on before swim ! ). I think they call it experience....! Other people in my age group were doing it in like around 46mins. But thats ok until I get my trainer wheels off ! lol. I knew the run would be the hardest bit to finish without stopping ( stopped at around 500m and 1km ) but ran from about 1.25km mark to finish line. But I figure, apart from the 1/2 dozen run/walks I've had in the last two weeks, this would be the first real run I've had in the last, prob, 5 years. Made everyone laugh at finish line though - someone I knew yelled out "come on Gary sprint to the finish" and I replied as I shuffled to the finish line "I am ! ". The after match function was good too! ( only one beer....honest ! ) Neil, you have mentioned where 2/3 of the work is done in our heads and that certainly stood out for me on Sunday and I reckon that's why we need to keep our goals visualised. "What the mind can conceive, it can achieve" Napolean Hill ( I think ! ). 20 Feb next event - Same distance, this time with race number on at start, a continuous run for 2.5km, 4 weeks training and I reckon I can give 1.01 a real hiding. I am thinking of changing to shoe clips on my bike. Has anybody had any experience in changing from normal pedals/straps to clips. I believe it makes quite a lot of difference in making the work load more efficient. Keep on keeping on Gary |
2011-01-17 8:13 PM in reply to: #3305247 |
New user 25 | Subject: RE: njc65 Mentor Group CLOSED Gary, |
2011-01-17 8:50 PM in reply to: #3305349 |
New user 15 Napier | Subject: RE: njc65 Mentor Group CLOSED Thanks Ray You raise a good point about getting used to being clipped in on the bike. Its one of those things its better to be aware of earlier rather than later at a set of traffic lights or a stop sign ! You have done a fair bit of swimming - what worked for you to keep your legs up ?. I've got hold of a floating device you put between your legs, so I will give that a go. Did you use something like that to keep your legs up initially ? I guess work on the stomach muscles would also help. Kind regards Gary |
2011-01-17 9:15 PM in reply to: #3305414 |
New user 25 | Subject: RE: njc65 Mentor Group CLOSED Gary, Keeping your legs up is ideally a matter of balance in the water not kicking or speed. Here's an article about it which explains it better than I do. http://www.h2oustonswims.org/articles_whole.html. The relevant article is entitled "Question of Balance..." I can basically float face down in the water but only if I have my arms up above my head as the weight of my arms counter balances the weight of my legs in the water. Of course when you swim a stroke you have to move your arms. This changes the balance and can leave your legs sinking. This is why a lot of coaches emphasize keeping your arm in front of you in the water while your other arm is recovering (i.e. you are bringing it back up out of the water to start another stroke). Strong core muscles also help, especially back, as you have to keep your body straight. Hope this helps. Ray |
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2011-01-17 9:24 PM in reply to: #3305464 |
New user 15 Napier | Subject: RE: njc65 Mentor Group CLOSED That is brilliant, thanks for that Gary |
2011-01-17 11:44 PM in reply to: #3304744 |
Extreme Veteran 746 | Subject: RE: njc65 Mentor Group CLOSED Niel, I so didn't do it to tease anyone but so far everyone I've told about the sunburn from your side of the world (also on RW and a walking site where the majority are from the US/Canada) are jealous, lol. Related to the sunburn though - does chlorine help it or make it worse? I think it's mostly healed - still hurts on the shoulders but mostly where bra straps go and the swimsuit I've got is one of the zip up the back ones so it shouldn't affect that. |
2011-01-17 11:59 PM in reply to: #3257876 |
Extreme Veteran 746 | Subject: RE: njc65 Mentor Group CLOSED Neil - I was thinking the same thing re quietness myself but maybe I'm just less shy on the internet than others. Do you know if I need to be a performance member for "fancy nutrition" stuff (aka calories, proteins, fat, etc? Gary - good work. I'm sure you'll beat your time next event. On the swimming the stomach muscles really do help cos after years of sagging (lessons as a kid and on/off fun swimming with friends in the summer) I decided to pay attention to them and I didn't sag this time. |
2011-01-18 2:08 AM in reply to: #3305613 |
New user 15 Napier | Subject: RE: njc65 Mentor Group CLOSED Thanks Suzie. |
2011-01-18 2:28 AM in reply to: #3305247 |
New user 125 UK | Subject: RE: njc65 Mentor Group CLOSED gazaboy - 2011-01-18 1:14 AMHi everyone, had my first event last weekend, a mini sprint 200m/14km/2.5. Went heaps better than I thought. I thought about 1.05 but did it in 1.01, and that was with a real slow swim/bike transition. ( I spent a good couple of minutes putting my race number on !!. Tip - put race number on before swim ! ). I think they call it experience....! Other people in my age group were doing it in like around 46mins. But thats ok until I get my trainer wheels off ! lol. Hey Gary well done great performance, congratulations! I am hopeless in transition too, trying to get better, especially when trying to get my wetsuit off! Have you seen number belts, they will save you time as they just clip on around your waist and away you go. Great run, and able to throw some humour in at the end too! Mental toughness is indeed a big part of the sport. I have had moments in every race I have done where my head has been screaming stop, those are the dig deep moments, happy to report I’ve managed to get through them all. You are spot on what Napoleon Hill said, so simple and so true.I went from normal pedals to clips a few years ago, makes a huge difference, the main one being, especially with clips, you are able to pull up on the pedal stroke, which means you are active for the full 360 degree rotation, particularly useful when climbing. They are easy to get used to but you will fall off at some point but usually when you are going very slow or stopping and you forget to clip out, I have and still do! With the experience and confidence of the last race, and the training you will hammer 1.01. I’m putting my money on a sub one hour finish!Well done mate, great start to the group’s race season – folks Gary has set a great standard for us to follow, let’s get cracking!NeilI knew the run would be the hardest bit to finish without stopping ( stopped at around 500m and 1km ) but ran from about 1.25km mark to finish line. But I figure, apart from the 1/2 dozen run/walks I've had in the last two weeks, this would be the first real run I've had in the last, prob, 5 years. Made everyone laugh at finish line though - someone I knew yelled out "come on Gary sprint to the finish" and I replied as I shuffled to the finish line "I am ! ". The after match function was good too! ( only one beer....honest ! ) Neil, you have mentioned where 2/3 of the work is done in our heads and that certainly stood out for me on Sunday and I reckon that's why we need to keep our goals visualised. "What the mind can conceive, it can achieve" Napolean Hill ( I think ! ). 20 Feb next event - Same distance, this time with race number on at start, a continuous run for 2.5km, 4 weeks training and I reckon I can give 1.01 a real hiding. I am thinking of changing to shoe clips on my bike. Has anybody had any experience in changing from normal pedals/straps to clips. I believe it makes quite a lot of difference in making the work load more efficient. Keep on keeping on Gary |
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2011-01-18 2:52 AM in reply to: #3305414 |
New user 125 UK | Subject: RE: njc65 Mentor Group CLOSED gazaboy - 2011-01-18 2:50 AMThanks Ray GaryRay has raised some great points re swimming, all sound advice. My legs are still a bit of an issue, but I am getting to be much higher in the water now. A couple of things that helped me was getting my head low in the water so I’m looking at the bottom of the pool and forcing my chest down so my legs come up. If you are planning open water wetsuit swimming at some point you’ll find the problem disappears as the wetsuit is great for buoyancy! I used the float between my thighs to help me too, worked wellYou raise a good point about getting used to being clipped in on the bike. Its one of those things its better to be aware of earlier rather than later at a set of traffic lights or a stop sign ! You have done a fair bit of swimming - what worked for you to keep your legs up ?. I've got hold of a floating device you put between your legs, so I will give that a go. Did you use something like that to keep your legs up initially ? I guess work on the stomach muscles would also help. Kind regards Gary |
2011-01-18 4:34 AM in reply to: #3305613 |
New user 125 UK | Subject: RE: njc65 Mentor Group CLOSED suzielea - 2011-01-18 5:59 AMNeil - I was thinking the same thing re quietness myself but maybe I'm just less shy on the internet than others. Do you know if I need to be a performance member for "fancy nutrition" stuff (aka calories, proteins, fat, etc? Hi Suzie, firstly chlorine shouldn't hurt the sunburn further, other than drying the skin so moisterise and you will be ok. Don't worry re nutrition I will post a basic run through later in the week, its a b it of a mindfield so hopefully I can bring some sense to it all.NeilGary - good work. I'm sure you'll beat your time next event. On the swimming the stomach muscles really do help cos after years of sagging (lessons as a kid and on/off fun swimming with friends in the summer) I decided to pay attention to them and I didn't sag this time. |
2011-01-18 5:34 AM in reply to: #3257876 |
Extreme Veteran 746 | Subject: RE: njc65 Mentor Group CLOSED Gary - I got the sunburn on Saturday so yeah it's a few days old and so far it isn't peeling anyway. I did use vitamin E cream the first day and nivea cream the second though so I think it did the same thing regarding the skin rejuvination thing. Neil - That's what I was thinking. I think it's going to depend on how bad the sholders are tomorrow though cos I tried doing the freestyle motion with them today to see if they could handle it and it hurt. I've planned to do another walk and bike ride if I don't swim though so I'll still be doing something. As to the nutrition - thanks. I'm sort of working on my own goals right now (limit sodas to 1-2 (pref 1) a day and limit junk as much as possible) but I would like some insighgt on better eating so I can plan appropriate meals for myself as needed. |
2011-01-18 4:45 PM in reply to: #3305686 |
New user 125 UK | Subject: RE: njc65 Mentor Group CLOSED suzielea - 2011-01-18 11:34 AM Gary - I got the sunburn on Saturday so yeah it's a few days old and so far it isn't peeling anyway. I did use vitamin E cream the first day and nivea cream the second though so I think it did the same thing regarding the skin rejuvination thing. Dont worry Suzie a few days out the pool wont matter in the grand scheme of things, bet you wont do that again! I'll pop some nutrition thoughts on tomorrow night.Neil - That's what I was thinking. I think it's going to depend on how bad the sholders are tomorrow though cos I tried doing the freestyle motion with them today to see if they could handle it and it hurt. I've planned to do another walk and bike ride if I don't swim though so I'll still be doing something. As to the nutrition - thanks. I'm sort of working on my own goals right now (limit sodas to 1-2 (pref 1) a day and limit junk as much as possible) but I would like some insighgt on better eating so I can plan appropriate meals for myself as needed. |
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