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Not only did Cruz not endorse Trump, the only candidate in the presidential race who fits the bill is Gary Johnson.

Will there be a Libertarian convention?  The amount of free air time the DNC and GOP get from their conventions make it hard for a 3rd part to compete.

They might have enough money to rent out a waffle house and have one.   

I hear this charge a lot, but what aspect of the constitution is Trump not faithful to?

Everybody likes to make him out to be the boogyman on conservative issues, but I just don't see it.

Yes, he's fairly socially moderate, but Johnson is far more socially moderate.  He's fiscally conservative (so is Gary).  He supports our Military (so does Gary), he doesn't support international intervention (neither does Gary), he supports minority and womens rights (so does Gary), he supports the 2nd Amendment (Gary doesn't).

I could go on and on, but the only thing Ted had over Trump was that he was more socially conservative where the Republican party has moved more socially moderate.  Hence the socially moderate conservative candidate won the primary.  To suggest that a Cruz supporter has a more "conservative" candidate in Johnson is kind of silly.  If anything Johnson is further to the left than Trump, but more towards the center than Hillary. 

umm.  banning muslims? not constitutional.  he said the goverment should have the power to close mosques. not constitutional.  Yes it is and it's been done before

He wants to deport american born children of illegal immigrants. not constitutional.  He wants to end the practice of birthright citizenship (which isn't constitutional anyways), which would close the anchor baby loophole and prevent them from becoming citizens and eligible for deportation which is totally fine and very constitutional.  

He said he would mandate the death penalty for anyone who kills a police officer. not constitutional.   He said he loves waterboarding, and would absolutely authorize something beyond waterboarding. not constitutional and a war crime.  Death penalty is constitutional and gets used all the time ( I don't support it btw) and interrogation techniques such as waterboarding doesn't apply to the constitution.  Torture is unconstitutional for american citizens on US soil, but not foreigners overseas because they have no constitutional protections.  We can certainly argue if it's good or bad, but it's not a constitutional issue. 

he wants to open up libel laws so he can sue media corporations for money. not constitutional  What article of the constitution protects Libel?  Are you suggesting that you want media corporations to be able to lie without recourse?  Also, it's already permissible to sue the media for libel in most states so it's not inconsistent to have a federal standard.

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umm.  banning muslims? not constitutional.  he said the goverment should have the power to close mosques. not constitutional. 

He wants to deport american born children of illegal immigrants. not constitutional. 

He said he would mandate the death penalty for anyone who kills a police officer. not constitutional.   He said he loves waterboarding, and would absolutely authorize something beyond waterboarding. not constitutional and a war crime.

he wants to open up libel laws so he can sue media corporations for money. not constitutional

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Bernie sanders said he is going to make college tuition free!  But he has no more constitutional authority to make college free than Trump does to make immigration laws.  Actually Trump, if he follows Obama's lead, can decide which immigration laws he will uphold and which ones he will ignore. 

I hear this charge a lot, but what aspect of the constitution is Trump not faithful to?

Everybody likes to make him out to be the boogyman on conservative issues, but I just don't see it. Yes, he's fairly socially moderate, but Johnson is far more socially moderate.  People question his conservative values because he's been so contradictory over the years. He used to be pro-choice, now he's pro-life. He supported legalizing drugs, now he doesn't. He supported universal healthcare, now he doesn't. He once said Hillary would be a great president. And since he has no actual record to compare to, just random quotes from interviews, debatges, and his books, it's hard to say if he's really changed his mind on all these issues (which is absolutely possible) or if he's just saying what conservatives want to hear. Plus, his current stance on gay marriage is that it's a reality and it's time to move on. He's definitely not in line with the RNC's platform on that one. 

He's fiscally conservative (so is Gary).  

He supports our Military (so does Gary), Not sure what you mean by this. They both say they support the military, but so does Hillary.  He certainly wants to spend more on the military, Johnson wants to spend less. I totally support Trump's proposed VA reforms. But he said in the debates he would force our troops to target the families of terrorists. I personally don't think that forcing our military to commit war crimes is very supportive.

he doesn't support international intervention (neither does Gary), Trump absolutely supports international intervention. He wants to bolster the military presence off the coast of China. He has said he would put boots on the ground in the fight against ISIS, bomb Iraqi oil fields, and use any and all means to stop Iran's nuclear program. He said Obama created the Syrian mess by not sending our troops in to get Assad. He once said that as president, he would tell North Korea to "either get out of the nuclear arms race or expect a rebuke similar to the one Ronald Reagan delivered to Ghadhafi" and "Who else in public life has called for a pre-emptive strike on North Korea?"  Trump wants countries that house our military bases to start paying us, Johnson wants to shut the overseas bases down and bring our troops home to defend our borders.

he supports minority and womens rights (so does Gary),

he supports the 2nd Amendment (Gary doesn't). Why did you say Johnson doesn't support the 2nd amendment? Not arguing, I seriously am asking. I can only find two quotes from him on gun control. (1) "I don't believe there should be any restrictions when it comes to firearms. None." (2) "If you outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns." Along with that, he's a supporter of both the constitution as it's written and individual liberties, so that sort of implies that he supports the right to bear arms. Trump, on the other hand, is currently a supporter of the 2nd amendment. But in one of his books he was a supporter of the assault weapon ban, waiting periods, and background checks. 

I could go on and on, but the only thing Ted had over Trump was that he was more socially conservative where the Republican party has moved more socially moderate.  Hence the socially moderate conservative candidate won the primary.  One last opinion, while Republican voters selected a more socially moderate candidate, the RNC itself has doubled down on their socially conservative policy with the platform they just approved. This despite the fact that in 2013, the RNC completed their assessment of why Romney lost and recommended for 2016 "When it comes to social issues, the Party must in fact and deed be inclusive and welcoming. If we are not, we will limit our ability to attract young people and others, including many women, who agree with us on some but not all issues."  Too bad they didn't listen to themselves or their voters.

To suggest that a Cruz supporter has a more "conservative" candidate in Johnson is kind of silly.  If anything Johnson is further to the left than Trump, but more towards the center than Hillary. 

Awesome speech tonight. 

I liked some of what he had to say well enough......but my god, look up redundancy in the dictionary and the text of that speech will probably be there.  He took 75 minutes to say what could have been said in half the time if he wouldn't have gone back and forth over the same issues so much.  It got hard to watch after awhile.....I already heard it!!!  And his daughter obviously inherited the same trait.

Agree, a bit long winded.  But when you have all the networks covering you......it behooves you to go a little long so you pick up some viewers who tuned in to watch their 10 pm show and found that Trump was still talking.....so you might as well listen cause your show is being delayed. 

I think is was his best speech and I think he needs to stick to the teleprompter when speechifying. 

Looking forward to the debates.  Trump can cite a few of the Clinton Foundation 'coincidences'.....well, unless the FBI exonerates her in that investigation before hand.  Not sure if that was part of the plea bargain Bill and Lynch negotiated or not? 

Sorry, I just can't help myself. I have to post this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdRKT0231Co

http://thehill.com/video/in-the-news/teleprompter-gaffe-flub-oops-blunder-hillary-clinton-sigh

Umm, ok? Don't know how that relates to the irony of Trump saying presidential candidates shouldn't be allowed to use teleprompters and then using one for his acceptance speech as the GOP's presidential candidate. But sure, that is hilarious, and Hillary is fake and insincere. There's a funny one of Obama stuttering when his goes out that you'll probably also enjoy.

It relates only in that it was about using teleprompters. 

Yes, he needs to eat his words about using them.....but I think had he used one in the primaries he would not be the nominee.  People liked his unscripted nature. 

ETA - I do my best proofing after I hit 'submit'.

Pretty sure the DNC will top them soon.  hehe