Election 2016 (Page 30)

her job as a defense attorney is to do that, sorry bro

I agree completely with your statement, but in my experience when it comes to sex crimes the defendant has to pretty much prove beyond all doubt that he/she is innocent in todays legal system.  If they don't have money to get a decent attorney then they pretty much have no chance.  

Tony that's just waaaaay skewed thinking, and factually wrong.  I don't know how many rape cases are never brought to trial or even have charges issued......but it's probably 5-1 vs. those that do. (or easily more...and you never hear of them)    I know damn well that the ratio of not guilty to guilty should not be 5-1, but it's a very hard case to prove in court.  Especially when we are talking about a date rape situation and alcohol or drugs are involved. To say it's "her word against his" might be an accurate statement.....but if that's all there is, forget it......never going to get charges issued.

stolen from the internet but. 

Dismissing Trump's behavior as locker room talk is the reason we have young men like Brock Turner.

Couldn't agree with this more. 

Yes and no.  Obviously you see a lot more of this than I do and there's no question there are a lot of people that get away with stuff so it's not cut and dry.
My comments come mostly from personal experience with guys I've counseled as they're going through the criminal justice system.  The laws are mostly written to remove all intent out of the law and make it extremely hard to defend oneself from charges.

stolen from the internet but. 

Dismissing Trump's behavior as locker room talk is the reason we have young men like Brock Turner.

stolen from the internet but. 

Dismissing Trump's behavior as locker room talk is the reason we have young men like Brock Turner.

DOH!!!!!!!  Rogillianderthal has awakened.

Do you believe that pornography causes sexual assaults?

Do you believe women dressing provocativelay causes sexual assaults?

If you don't then how is it that you believe talking about women in a derogatory way causes sexual assaults?

And what about impressionable young men, many of which don't have good dads like I know you guys are, to teach them right from wrong? I mean really teach them. I think when you've got a person in a position of power who represents our country speaking like that, the cavemen, along with the racists, and the bigots come crawling out of their holes and feel like it's ok to talk the same way. When enough young men hear that kind of "harmless locker room talk" , yes I think that influences their decision making process. It's startling how many young people don't even know what qualifies as sexual assault. Is she drunk? Oh it's not a big deal then. How about leading by example by not even joking about sexual assault. It's not funny, it happens all the time. I'm not going to defend Bill and what he did either.

You do realize you're making the argument that Christian Conservatives have been making for decades.  It's the progressives that have been pushing porn, smut, and anything goes in our culture because if it makes you happy you should do it (public nudity anyone?).  Next you're going to want to ban marijuana and get God back in schools.

if you can't see the difference between public nudity and saying that it is ok to sexually assault women, I'm not sure we can have a reasonable conversation.

porn is difficult.  I've seen and heard many things that make me think it negatively influences young men.  I'm not sure banning it is the answer, but I think adults, and educators, and other people should be having a real conversation with young men about this.  Part of the problem in my estimation is that we don't talk about sex in this country.  Its a big taboo topic and young people learn about it from porn, or from older men bragging about it. this is why we can't let a presidential candidate off the hook for bragging about sexually assaulting and forcing himself upon women. 

as to the bill Clinton comment.  I think what he did was terrible.  however, I didn't see him on stage saying oh boys being boys, and I seem to remember there being an uproar on both sides of the aisle about it.

if you can't see the difference between public nudity and saying that it is ok to sexually assault women, I'm not sure we can have a reasonable conversation.

porn is difficult.  I've seen and heard many things that make me think it negatively influences young men.  I'm not sure banning it is the answer, but I think adults, and educators, and other people should be having a real conversation with young men about this.  Part of the problem in my estimation is that we don't talk about sex in this country.  Its a big taboo topic and young people learn about it from porn, or from older men bragging about it. this is why we can't let a presidential candidate off the hook for bragging about sexually assaulting and forcing himself upon women. 

as to the bill Clinton comment.  I think what he did was terrible.  however, I didn't see him on stage saying oh boys being boys, and I seem to remember there being an uproar on both sides of the aisle about it.

Nah....he was funnier.....he said, "it depends on what your definition of Is is."  LMAO  Same thing.

I know the point you're making....and I won't argue it.  For me it's hard to get behind because I see all of these things as personal responsibility issues.  I teach my kids right and wrong.  I try to send them on their way with a decent moral compass.  I don't know how many conversations I had with Jr. over the summer about respect and girls and alcohol and sex.  I'm sure I wore him out.  (I know it wore me out)  In that regard I tend to look at things that someone like Trump says as, Meh, whatever......another guy being a dope.  I'm doing my job regardless.....and even used that idiot as an example of what can happen if you're stupid.

Still.....I don't expect the President to be anything outside of someone who can keep the ship afloat and moving forward.....and I think Trump beats HIllary in that regard.  I think she's dangerous.  Trump doesn't scare me any more then Bill Clinton, Nixon, Johnson, Kennedy, etc......who ALL had outside affairs, lied, etc.  I don't care......not my business.

Now.....just sit back, watch Trump lose his forking mind, and enjoy the show.  I think you guys win this one.

I'm starting to think Hillary is going to win. 

If I was a Republican and Trump ends up losing, I would be might pissed at my party.

After the Romney loss and the RNC's post-election autopsy report, it was concluded that in order to win in 2016 the party would have to broaden its base and attract more minority and women voters.

How Republicans felt that Trump is the candidate to achieve that goal is beyond me. I believe it was in Trump's presidential announcement speech that he referred to illegal Mexican immigrants as criminals, drug dealers and rapists.

If the RNC has any hope of electing a Republican president in 2020 (or ever for that matter), they need to listen to their own recommendations and nominate a candidate that is appealing to all voters.

With hindsight being 20/20, I wonder how Kasich or Cruz would be polling right now?

I'm starting to think Hillary is going to win....unless there is some huge bombshell that comes out in her email. So far the media is downplaying most of the leaks.

My biggest fear is the country is going to implode under it's own debt and entitlements. 94 million people don't work in this country! We will end up having to use austerity measures to keep from going under and there will be riots in the streets. There is racial tension in the country....an anti-cop movement....and radical Muslims everywhere trying to kill Americans. I've watched things slowly go downhill for the last 20 years and Hillary is gonna give us another 8 years of the same.....if we last that long.

If I was a Republican and Trump ends up losing, I would be might pissed at my party.

After the Romney loss and the RNC's post-election autopsy report, it was concluded that in order to win in 2016 the party would have to broaden its base and attract more minority and women voters.

How Republicans felt that Trump is the candidate to achieve that goal is beyond me. I believe it was in Trump's presidential announcement speech that he referred to illegal Mexican immigrants as criminals, drug dealers and rapists.

If the RNC has any hope of electing a Republican president in 2020 (or ever for that matter), they need to listen to their own recommendations and nominate a candidate that is appealing to all voters.

With hindsight being 20/20, I wonder how Kasich or Cruz would be polling right now?