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gabrelsj - 2011-01-27 8:40 PM

First, I had to stop beating myself up.  It is counter productive.  Does no good toward goal.  Then I had to inventory what was the issue.  Motivation is a strong point of mine.  A suggestion:  Quit listening to your head.  My voices never help me.  There is one who is screaming get fit, get fit.  I focused on that one and just kept at it until the workouts become habit.  I don't think about it.  I look at the plan and go do it. Auto pilot.  Before long, you can't live without doing something. 

And second, when you try something like new nutrition and it doesnt work, GREAT! You have eliminated something that won't work.  You've learned something.  That is the point around here.  Not every shot will be a bullseye.  In fact I've learned as much by mistakes than through successes, though the successes are always more fun.  Eventually every mistake, everything you try that doesn't work helps narrow in on what will work. 

Nutrition is a personal thing. What works for one doesnt always work for another.  Ultrarunner Dean Karnazes carries a cellphone and a credit card for nutrition.  He orders a pineapple pizza delivered on his route, he rolls it like a burrito and he eats it. That would put me on the curb.  He runs 100 miles.  Macca runs the marathon and drinks cokes.  I know why...caffeine and sugar.  Im not sure my tummy will take it. Too much acid. Gonna try it when I can run outside.

I have started to focus on on Hammer products.  They work for me.  Perpetulum is great for long distance fueling.  A fluid.  I like the coffee tasting one...has caffeine for pain and lowering perceived exertion.  I also like to dissolve Gu Chocolate Outrage in small fluid bottles.  I can put 400 to 500 cals in one little bitty bottle.  Drink it over two hours.  Tastes good and sits on my stomach.

So try stuff.  See what flavors work for you.  Give yourself about 250 cals an hour on workouts 3 hours and more.  You will find what works.

But above all, try things.  I love this triathlon stuff cause I can try so many things on the run, bike, swim, nutrition, strength, yoga and flex... so much to learn.  Always fresh.

Have a terrific day.










good luck with run and swim.  keep pushing.

razorxp - 2011-01-28 8:12 AM Jason, Scott hit it right on the head.  Sometimes failure helps more than success in training. If something upsets your stomach in mid distance run you know it will kill you in a HIM.   What stinks is when you do just fine in training and then you get to the race and something goes wrong.  Thats when you have to figure out what caused it (too much water/too little, too hot/cold, wrong breakfast/snack/meal night before).  I have said it before but its taken me 5 time to "think" I have my IM nutrition nailed.  I am still not 100% sure its fool proof but much more than I was 1 year ago. 

Plus for you, your able to test it in another week. My body cannot do IM's every couple week to tweak things... :-)

Since you took nuuns and gel I would try just the gel next time.  Also I'm not a gel person so there are other options (chomps/blocks).  Just play around with it.  The other problem you could have is whatever you do right now may be good but once it warms up it may change.  To be honest most would not need that much nutrition on an 8mile run so you could have just overloaded ?

Hang in there you will figure something out. 

brybrymd - 2011-01-28 9:00 AM Has anyone ever picked up "Total Immersion" for swimming? If so, did it help? Thoughts? Suggestions?

IceManScott - 2011-01-28 8:46 AM Just a suggestion and you don't have to buy their products but Hammer Nutrition has a lot of good research on their page about  how many calories to take in and why.  They limit it to 250 to 300 an hour because your body can't absorb more.  When you try to force more, the GI tract rebels. 

IceManScott - 2011-01-28 9:06 AM

Yes and yes.  Helps with basic ideas about what good form should look like and why.   Head down, elbows up, balanced, hips turning from side to side.  It helped me understand how little things can add to big gains.  On the other hand, it had me swinging too much, I think.  My legs were not able to kick properly.  I toned it down a bit, practiced with finds and am doing really good now.  Check out YouTube.  There is a lot of stuff on it there free. See what you think.  I would love to go to a clinic with someone who teaches it. 

robburkett - 2011-01-28 10:04 AM

I haven't gone whole hog on watching the Total Immersion videos but implemented some of what was shown.   I learned through Swim Smooth that as a result of "just catching on" I may have introduced a dead spot in my stroke.  I picked up the pace a little more and made sure that my arms are ALWAYS moving, even if that includes extending.  It's at the end of the extension that the dead spot usually occurs, so the moment I feel fully extended, I start my pull.

razorxp - 2011-01-28 10:23 PM I would say the best thing about TI video is the drills they show you how to do..


So what is everyones goals for Feb? (except for Scott who has a strict plan)  Lets all post goals for the month broken out by the week so we can see how we are doing on them. 

brybrymd - 2011-01-28 10:00 AM Has anyone ever picked up "Total Immersion" for swimming? If so, did it help? Thoughts? Suggestions?

robburkett - 2011-01-29 10:29 AM I got some awesome news yesterday...so I'm going to splurge today and get the Specialized tri shoes that take SPD and LOOK cleats!  Then I'm all set for spin and tri.

My Feb goals are pretty simple.

Weekly - hit or exceed(within reason) my training volumes.  I need to set myself up well to move into March. 

Feb 20th - Indoor "triathlon" - 10 min swim, 30 min bike, 20 min run.  I don't have a PR goal for this but I do want to throw down a VERY solid performance.  I know, I know - it's indoor tri, but still it's a "race" and I want to kick some azz.

Month of Feb - learn the nutritional tricks o' the trade regarding the Oly and HIM.  For the Oly, I'm thinking I'll need something on the bike.  HIM - I have no idea.

ltcsh1 - 2011-01-29 10:53 AM Need Your input..... As I have said before, I use a pedometor because I am horrible at rembering exactly where I have been when I get home.  Well today I looked at my run from yesterday on line and found that I was off about .4 mile!  So, how do you all mark your distances?  This is getting more important since I am running my 1st 5k in march.  Thanks for the help.

My goals for Feb. is to add my swim training and really buckle downon everything.  I have no expectations on distances yet until I get into this program.  I'll keep you all updated.   

razorxp - 2011-01-29 3:26 PM Hi Everyone, I will catch up with logs tomorrow night. Had to do a decent workout today and off to our office "Christmas party" long story as to why its now.  Anyway I am taking our staff and some big clients out to dinner and comedy club so I am guessing I need to workout about 15hrs tomorrow to make up for the calories tonight.  Be safe


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