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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() JeepFleeb - 2009-04-17 11:52 AM elheffe99 - 2009-04-17 1:30 PM I have a question for our fearless leader! Many of the training plans that I pick are based off of my schedule with work and family. The plans have always seemed to work but many of them are "lower tier" plans that don't give any information other than minimum time requirement, such as run for 32 minutes or bike for 1:15. I have used other plans that give much more detailed information about what should be done within those time frames. Is there anyway to fill in the gaps? How would I go about doing that? I know that mindlessly running or biking for those times is better than nothing but I also know that it leaves a lot out. Any tips and/or ideas you have on that would be very helpful. Thanks. This is what almost all of triathlon coaching is about. How to get the most out of the limited time an athlete has to reach a goal without causing injury or burnout. Generally speaking: work on your weaknesses. You need a mixture of speed/strength/endurance work and the best combination just depends on you as an athlete. Work your limiters more during your base and get more and more race specific as you build towards your A race. There's no specific formula as to how much you should do of each so a lot of this has to be trial and error and learning how your body responds to and recovers from different workloads. Okay, there is a formula but that's what I get paid for so I'm not telling. ![]() I thought that might be coming, atlhough I wasn't looking for the secret sauce just a few tips. If I'm doing 2-3 bikes and/or runs in a week would it be adviseable to take 1 and make it more speed oriented? |
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Regular ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I want to throw something out to you. I am going to be finishing my Sprint program the end of this month for my First "A" race May 3rd. After that I begin my HIM schedule. The tricky part is the plan doesn't officially begin until June 8th. So that is a month without any structure, and I don't do well without structure. Any ideas what I can put in this hole I have. Thanks. |
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Expert![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() JeepFleeb - 2009-04-17 1:06 PM elheffe99 - 2009-04-17 2:54 PM I thought that might be coming, atlhough I wasn't looking for the secret sauce just a few tips. If I'm doing 2-3 bikes and/or runs in a week would it be adviseable to take 1 and make it more speed oriented? Speed one week, hills the next, both in the third, neither in the fourth... just keep mixing it up. Lots of people fall into the trap of repetitive training. They always do track every Wednesday. They always do a long ride on Saturday with their cycling club. Keep changing the routine so you're always being challenged rather than just adapting.
Perfect. I appreciate it and adapting is an important word there. |
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Regular![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Duh. That makes a lot more sense than what I was gonna try and do. I guess I will double up the first month. That way I will get a second chance to do it right. ![]() |
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Expert![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() willie05 - 2009-04-17 2:48 PM gobluedds - 2009-04-17 10:01 AM Is that really what the drama was all about? It is hard to believe that a sponsor would pull out for that reason alone. Seems pretty harmless to me. If the sponsor was really "cruising the forums" I would think that they would have noticed a lot more positive/dedicated posts on which to base their assumptions as to the worthiness of John's cause. Edit: Anyone know how to contact John to find out more about the sponsor and how to help him get them reinstated? John is on Facebook if you want to get in touch. We exchanged notes this morning. I asked him who the sponsor was, but he avoided that question! He also mentioned that now the board of his charity is considering removing him after losing the 10k. That really seems outrageous. He has always been very committed to raising awareness for transplants, and his training has also been excellent. He even had to rushed to the hospital this past fall, but he hasn't let that hold him back. Here's his website - http://www.triathlonsfortransplants.com/ His email address is listed in his profile, so I'll put it here - [email protected] Thanks Willie |
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Expert![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Happychick - 2009-04-17 3:42 PM So my first triathlon ever will most likely be changed to a duathlon due to the dang jelly fish invasion (the tri was timed just in time for the jellys to come in after the full moon.) My question is...do I start concentrating more on the du events then get back into a more tri focused program (swim which, surprise surprise, is my weak event)? I don't doubt that I can do the du since it will be all short distances but I'd like to be somewhat competitive. My tri-turned-duathlon is May 17th which means my next scheduled tri will be June 7th. You should definitely take the month of May off of swimming. The boys in the challenge want to see a new Avatar. ![]() |
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Expert![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() JeepFleeb - 2009-04-17 5:01 PM sympatric - 2009-04-17 3:50 PM Duh. That makes a lot more sense than what I was gonna try and do. I guess I will double up the first month. That way I will get a second chance to do it right. ![]() If you're going to add time somewhere then your base phase is the easiest. That's the volume/intensity of training that you could do for months without having to take a significant break. I was going to ask a similar question tonite. I have about two weeks before I "officially" start the 20 week HIM program and was wondering about some "bridge" workouts until then. Thanks for asking. |
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Master![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() gobluedds - 2009-04-17 12:55 PM Happychick - 2009-04-17 3:42 PM So my first triathlon ever will most likely be changed to a duathlon due to the dang jelly fish invasion (the tri was timed just in time for the jellys to come in after the full moon.) My question is...do I start concentrating more on the du events then get back into a more tri focused program (swim which, surprise surprise, is my weak event)? I don't doubt that I can do the du since it will be all short distances but I'd like to be somewhat competitive. My tri-turned-duathlon is May 17th which means my next scheduled tri will be June 7th. You should definitely take the month of May off of swimming. The boys in the challenge want to see a new Avatar. ![]() Ok, I see any advice you give pertaining to swim training as being a conflict of interest!! ![]() |
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Expert![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I have a swim training question. I come from a swimming background. 7 years of competition, but all as a sprinter. I have no problem, so far with distance swims, i actually like long distance a lot more now than I used to. My question is this, since I am used to doing sprint training, lots of 50's 100's and 200's, are these distances what I should still be focusing on for building speed in mile distance and greater swims? It seems from what I am seeing in most other logs, that this is what most people are working on. Why not 500's and 1000's? |
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Expert![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() JeepFleeb - 2009-04-17 9:24 PM gobluedds - 2009-04-17 8:13 PM I have a swim training question. I come from a swimming background. 7 years of competition, but all as a sprinter. I have no problem, so far with distance swims, i actually like long distance a lot more now than I used to. My question is this, since I am used to doing sprint training, lots of 50's 100's and 200's, are these distances what I should still be focusing on for building speed in mile distance and greater swims? It seems from what I am seeing in most other logs, that this is what most people are working on. Why not 500's and 1000's? Most people don't come from a swimming background, so what most people do for swim training won't necessarily apply to you. One reason for more sets of shorter distance is form. Form is critical to swimming effeciently and taking breaks to catch your breath, think for a second and refocus will lead to better quality swims. Let's say a person has pretty good form for 200m before they start into whatever their bad habit is. One set of 900m means 700m of bad form. Three sets of 300m means 300m of bad form. That doesn't mean that they should never do long sets, but generally speaking more short sets yields better quality. Ok, I guess that makes sense. Gonna try to stick to the training plans as much as possible this season since I really don't know that much about this sport yet. Maybe I'll do some tweaking next year. |
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Expert![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Hey Aaron - just wanted to say thanks for doing this mentor group! I've already learned valuable lessons this week. A couple years ago I couldn't believe when I saw people running to warmup before my first 5k race. My thought at the time was, "aren't they wearing themselves out?". I later learned that it is actually valuable to do that, but when you put it in terms of the heart rate, that's the first I understood why. I also liked the variety post. I've always assumed that doing a tempo run, interval run, and lsd run each week was variety, but I can certainly see the value in changing it up more like you said. ![]() |
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Master![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Morning All! I hope everyone has a fabulous weekend! |
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Expert![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() If anyone was going to send JD some encouragement after the other day, now would be a good time. It's gone from bad to worse. ![]() Here's his facebook entry from today: "Want to have some fun? If you are driving and see someone riding a bike, come up next to them and have your budy jab them in the ribs with somehing long. Shove them towards the curb with it. If you are lucky, they will hit the curb and crash. It is hilarity. Luckily, my chin broke my fall and there is no damage to the bike. Chin doesn't look so great, but my looks have never been all that impressive anyway." |
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Expert![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Wow that guy is having a bad week. Hope he gets back on the bike soon. |
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Veteran![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Hey Everyone. I guess you had someone drop out and I was lucky enough to be invited to join the group, thanks Aaron!! NAME: Big_D - Derek
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Veteran![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Welcome to the group, and congrats on the weightloss. Hopfully the knee helps up nicely and you can get back into things more fully. |
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Expert![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Welcome Derek, I can feel your frustration about your knee. I had to have surgery on mine a few years ago due to a nagging injury. Feels great now. My advice, just keep to the therapy regimen and don't try to push too hard too fast. Good luck with the training this spring. |
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Veteran![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Welcome Derek! Hope the knee is feeling better every day! |
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Expert![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Hey Coach, Another training question. If the plan calls for a specific distance and a specific time, which is more important. As an example, my swim workout today called for 3100 meters in 1 hour. I was done with my 3100 meters before the hour was up. Should I have just kept swimming in a cool down mode, or just finished the workout and moved on? |
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