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Mountaindan

2013-02-02 5:40 PM

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Chris Welcome to the Group, Glad to have you with us!

Armando, I would say good job getting in a workout! Those long weeks really make it tough to get anything done. Hope you have fun on your trip with the scouts!

Jeff, thanks for the article, I know my training is pretty haphazard, but I am learning not to go too hard, I used to try and go all out every work out, but the older I get I find that doesn't work very well!

And on an Important note, at least for me, Can't wait to see my Niners back in the Superbowl! I'll have to get home and get my work out in before so I can enjoy a few cold ones!

2013-02-02 6:36 PM

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Definitely go 49's.! It has been a cold day, started at 17 don't think it broke 25. Amazing what these kids can do. One of the challenges - build a fire using natural materials, boil 8 oz of water, put fire out and clean site. All in 15 minutes! Some used flint and steel. Pretty cool. Sorry for the off topic comment. It's a way to stay engaged. Armando

2013-02-02 6:36 PM

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2013-02-02 6:36 PM

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2013-02-02 10:28 PM

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tukutuku - 2013-02-02 12:14 PM

Hey,

Armando, don't start wallowing in guilt, it won't do any good. You did what you could do, squeezed some training into your busy week. Give yourself pat on a shoulder and forget about it.

Did anyone of you ever participated in weekend triathlon clinics? It looks I will have this opportunity in April.

I know you're looking for someone who has participated, though I haven't I've had friends that have. The reports back that they found them to be very useful. As you'll find, they can be pretty expensive, so you will want to make sure of the reputation of the group putting it on and of the coaches who are providing the instruction.

I am considering attending one myself if I can find the right one at the right time. In general, I think if the cost is not an issue, you can only gain improvements from the attending. Having a concentrated period of instruction with knowledgeable coaches can help to not only make you a better athlete, but also help to improve your self-coaching as well.

For me, my biggest area of interest is in swimming. I'd like to spend time with a swim coach to work my swim technique

If you find a promising clinic post it here.

Thom

http://triathlon.competitor.com/2012/08/training/six-common-mistakes-triathletes-make_34373

2013-02-02 10:52 PM

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jmac5032 - 2013-02-02 4:14 PM

I thought this was a good article. Thought I would share. It cetainly got me thinking about my training as I start to think about incorporating speed work.

Thanks for posting. It has great advice in short, concise and easy to read article and the right lessons for those new to the sport.

2013-02-02 11:20 PM

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I thought I'd post a couple of resources that I think are good for the beginner triathlete. When I first got into the sport I tried to learn as much as I could.

One of the first books I purchased was Joe Friel's "Your First Triathlon". There is a second version out now: Your First Triathlon, 2nd Ed.: Race-Ready in 5 Hours a Week.

This book has just the right amount of information without being too technical and too long. For those just getting a feel for the sport and not sure they are committed long term I think you can't go wrong.

For those who want to know a little more of the science behind the sport Joe Friel's Training Bible is the standard. Also out in an updated version the latest is the third edition: The Triathlete's Training Bible

USA Triathlon has published a couple of outstanding resources: Complete Triathlon Guide - which is a great resources with chapters from several different authorities on the sport and USA Triathlon: Triathlon Training Series DVD set (http://www.usatriathlontraining.com/). Both of these should someday be in your library.

For strength training I am a fan of Andrew Johnston's: Holistic Strength Training For Triathlon, but Patrick Hagerman's: Strength Training for Triathletes is also very informative and in my library.

Some training/workout resources I use and recommend - especially for self coached athletes - are:
Bobby McGee's: Run Workouts for Runners and Triathletes (Workouts in a Binder)
Nick Hansen's: Workouts in a Binder for Swimmers, Triathletes, and Coaches
Swim Smooth's Swim Plans (www.swimsmooth.com) (they also have a very cool animated swimmer you can download to your computer that demonstrates swim technique).

If you have not been to www. slowtwitch.com make a point to visit that site.

There are of course many, many others. Some others of you might have other favorite references that you can recommend.

Thom

2013-02-02 11:45 PM

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One of the things that we as triathletes are oft to endure is injury. Absent an acute accident or injury (e.g. rolling an ankle), many times those injuries are the result of irritation to soft tissue. For many years I had to work through nagging injuries to heals, achilles, shin splints, calf injuries etc.

While at the Army War College, I was introduced to a massage style called Myofascial Release Massage which lead to learning of Trigger Point Massage Therapy. By applying these therapies, I resolved (and continue to resolve issues that crop up) all of them. I no longer have these kinds of problems that used to keep me from training.

Finding a massage therapist correctly trained in Myofascial Release can be difficult - look for ones who have learned the John Barnes style. A session with a well trained therapist can cost up to $100/hr.

For Trigger Point Massage therapy there is better news. For about $17 you can purchase a book that teaches you how to most of the trigger point massage that you need to do yourself. I swear by this and I'm an acolyte of this approach to address nagging soft tissue type injuries.

Here is a link to the workbook that I use - The Trigger Point Therapy Workbook: Your Self-Treatment Guide for Pain Relief, Second Edition:

http://www.amazon.com/Trigger-Point-Therapy-Workbook-Self-Treatment...

It may sound like quakery - but believe me - it works. I recently had an issue with bad calf cramping that was all due to trigger points. Working to release the trigger points I did not miss any training and was completely healed within a week. On my nearly two hour run today I had no evidence of the problems that I had a week or so ago.

Thom

2013-02-03 9:41 AM

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I have everyone on the list and links to their training except Armondo, I was not able to get your member ID unless you friend me, but it's entirely up to you.

Anyone that would like a copy please send me a PM with your email and I will send you the instructions and code.

hey Dan,

I finally figured out how to "friend" I have added you. if you could, please send code and instructions.

BTW - How does one delete own posts?

2013-02-03 9:41 AM

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I have everyone on the list and links to their training except Armondo, I was not able to get your member ID unless you friend me, but it's entirely up to you.

Anyone that would like a copy please send me a PM with your email and I will send you the instructions and code.

hey Dan,

I finally figured out how to "friend" I have added you. if you could, please send code and instructions.

BTW - How does one delete own posts?

jmac5032

2013-02-03 9:55 AM

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Hey everybody,

Just starting to already think about my bike tires and how to best be prepared for the dreaded flat tire. I normally carry a spare tube taped under the seat and a Co2 cartridge with me on all outdoor rides, but is there a better tire out on the market that triathletes naturally gravitate to?

Thom, It looks like you also ride a P1. I am still on the stock racing tires that have been good for me so far but am worried it might be a good idea to switch them out this summer before racing starts. They are totally slick and sometimes that worries me a bit!

Thanks, Jeff

2013-02-04 9:19 AM

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Hey folks,

Was off the board yesterday - the Noro Virus is making its way through our house and yesterday was my turn. Good thing this is a fast sickness. I missed my long swim and bike though - which is not good.

Oh, well. The things we have to overcome to do our sport.

Thom

2013-02-04 9:22 AM

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jmac5032 - 2013-02-03 8:55 AM

Hey everybody,

Thanks, Jeff

I'm still riding the stock tires as well. I have a set of all-weather tires from Continental, but I haven't used those in a while (they are on my Felt bike that I no longer ride and I haven't had reason to switch them).

I suspect that if I anticipated a race with wet road conditions I might change them.

I am not aware of any tires that are more resistant to puncture that triathletes or cyclists tend to prefer. If I come across anything I let the group know.

Thom

tukutuku

2013-02-04 7:58 PM

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Jeff,

Thanks for good article, finally understood "negative split" concept. Spent last two workouts practicing it, very cool, like racing with myself.

Thom, get well. Yuck, we had Norovirus last week too. I wanted to ask you why do you recommend weekly training on endurance, speed and recovery, some plans I've seen recommend combining all three elements in one week. Sorry, there is too much information and my head slowly is turning to silo, it is time to start sorting.

2013-02-04 8:18 PM

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Feels good to exercise again. Quick ten miles on the bike outdoors yesterday. An hour on the pool today. I am starting Gale Bernhart's 13 weeks to a sub 13 Ironman training program. It is time to commit.

xrn20

2013-02-05 6:10 AM

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Hi Id love to join the group if possible. Im brand new to tri, and have been slowly building my fitness back after heart surgery.

im improving my fitness slowly but steadily and would LOVE the help of a mentor.

Im 32, male and have a half IM as my outright goal. but intend to start with a local club i found that conduct frequent sprint events to cut my teeth on.

dpg31

2013-02-05 11:05 AM

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Hello,

I'm Patrick, would really like to join your group, as I am a defn. "newbie" to triathlons. I'm 46yrs old and have a basic running background, kinda new to the bike, and swim like a Buick. My target event is the PPD Beach2Battleship full IM in October, and hopefully going to participate in all 4 distances this year. I'm following the Ben Greenfield 36 wk program. I stretched it out a bit and started doing some prep the 1st of January. This week is really my 1st week of the program. I dont really know anyone who does tris and could really use some help on protocol, nutrition, and equipment. Dont mind spending $ where needed, but cant stand to wasting it. Dont want to go the trial and error route.

millscd63

2013-02-05 4:45 PM

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Have any of you guys had trouble with Achilles Tendinitis? I have had very slight pain before but never anything serious. Last Monday I went and swam with the local triathlon group for the first time and I think I really irritated it by pushing off the wall too hard. I backed way off the running and it seemed to be getting better but then today I was on the treadmill and had a sudden sharp pain so I stopped. I don't think it is ruptured or anything like that since I don't have any pain when I walk, only when I run. I am doing my first half marathon in about a month so according to the plan I should be training hard now then tapering for the last week or two. So the question is should I stop running completely until it heals and go in to the HM undertrained or keep pushing it now then use the last couple of weeks to hopefully let it heal before the race?

jmac5032

2013-02-05 7:08 PM

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millscd63 - 2013-02-05 3:45 PM Have any of you guys had trouble with Achilles Tendinitis? I have had very slight pain before but never anything serious. Last Monday I went and swam with the local triathlon group for the first time and I think I really irritated it by pushing off the wall too hard. I backed way off the running and it seemed to be getting better but then today I was on the treadmill and had a sudden sharp pain so I stopped. I don't think it is ruptured or anything like that since I don't have any pain when I walk, only when I run. I am doing my first half marathon in about a month so according to the plan I should be training hard now then tapering for the last week or two. So the question is should I stop running completely until it heals and go in to the HM undertrained or keep pushing it now then use the last couple of weeks to hopefully let it heal before the race?

Hi,

I have experienced achilles tendonitis myself back in the fall of 2011. I ended up working through it with physical therapy and lots of calf drop/extension exercises. It never came back after that but for what you are describing in terms of pain, yours could be a lot worse if your feeling it during the run. Not to scare you but this can be very serious and is often led on by overuse or too much training early on. I would recommend that you ice after every run and cut your mileage. Do some light massages and stretches and warm up very good. Speed work might unfotunately cause more issues and take even longer for you to bounce back. Mine scared me enough that I saw a sports medicine DR. for it. He then gave me 6 weeks of physical therapy and I cut my mileage back during that time and still raced my half-marathon with no issues. Let me know if I can help further.

Jeff

2013-02-05 9:52 PM

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xrn20 - 2013-02-05 5:10 AM

Hi Id love to join the group if possible. Im brand new to tri, and have been slowly building my fitness back after heart surgery.

im improving my fitness slowly but steadily and would LOVE the help of a mentor.

Im 32, male and have a half IM as my outright goal. but intend to start with a local club i found that conduct frequent sprint events to cut my teeth on.

xrn2,

We'd be glad to help you reach your goal. Welcome to the group.

Let us know a little more about yourself - there is a suggested introduction included in the primary post for the mentorship program. Perhaps your name - or what you would like to be called, where you're located, sports background any training you've been doing, goal races if you have them chosen, etc.

Look forward to having you along.

Thom

2013-02-05 9:58 PM

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dpg31 - 2013-02-05 10:05 AM

Hello,

Hi Patrick - we have room for one last person and that will be you. So, welcome aboard.

You are definitely living the go big mantra. You've found the right group as you are not the only member of the group shooting for an Iron distance event right out of the chute.

I had targeted B2B back a few years ago but ended up having to pass on it. It is supposed to be great event.

If you haven't already - run through the threads, I've suggested some resources that can help get you started and a few other have as well. If you have questions let us know and we'll be here to help.

The first thing that comes to my mind as you describe your plan is how you plan to integrate the other events in your training plan. I will let you know from experience - that maintaining motivation from now until October can be challenging. You will have to be sure to include down time and variation - or whatever else you might need to help sustain you through the many months of hard training.

Thom

2013-02-05 10:05 PM

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millscd63 - 2013-02-05 3:45 PM

Have any of you guys had trouble with Achilles Tendinitis? I have had very slight pain before but never anything serious. Last Monday I went and swam with the local triathlon group for the first time and I think I really irritated it by pushing off the wall too hard. I backed way off the running and it seemed to be getting better but then today I was on the treadmill and had a sudden sharp pain so I stopped. I don't think it is ruptured or anything like that since I don't have any pain when I walk, only when I run. I am doing my first half marathon in about a month so according to the plan I should be training hard now then tapering for the last week or two. So the question is should I stop running completely until it heals and go in to the HM undertrained or keep pushing it now then use the last couple of weeks to hopefully let it heal before the race?

I've dealt with achilles issues off and on. I posted a few days ago about trigger point therapy. I'd refer you to that post. I found that my achilles problems - absent an acute injury - are due to trigger points in my calves. If you are interested, I can photo copy the relevant section in my trigger point therapy book related to achilles issues and send them to you (I don't think I'd be breaking any copywrite laws - any lawyers in the house). You can try it. If it helps - great. If not, you may have something else going on but you haven't lost anything.

Thom

millscd63

2013-02-05 10:36 PM

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Thanks Jeff, I think the issue is definitely overuse. I went from not being a runner at all straight into a Half Marathon plan that had me running four days a week. I plan on doing exactly what you recommended as far as cutting back the mileage, ice, and stretching a lot more. Thom, I would definitely appreciate the massage information, I will PM you my email address. Thanks!Chris