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2009-11-12 7:22 AM
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skrtrnr - 2009-11-12 8:16 AM

speaking of running....

heading out in a bit to get in my first long one in since my 1/2 MARY.

i have to admit, and im not quite sure what the word is to describe how im feeling....

DREAD, perhaps....

oh dear.  maybe too strong.

i dont know. 

im just not looking forward to running.

im waiting on the sun to heat things up just a bit, but my goal is to have it over and done in time to go have a nice BIG UBER YUMMMY salad at Panera.

i have this weird feeling of foreboding, like im not gonna be 'able to' run?

wtFLIP??

its not like i had some HORRIFIC run at my 1/2 Mary.  so im not sure where this is originating?

no matter.  its not like this will keep from my running.

my guess, once i get started, ill get in the groove, and ill feel OK by the end of it.

im thinking i need to scope out a new route too....wont be taking the time to do that today though.

but, i do have to figure out where i need to go to get in 6-7 miles, i didnt have a loop that distance worked out....

theres a part of me that just wants to say SCREW IT and head up the Y to do the run on the TM.  but i made a commitment to myself to do at least 1 run a week outside, preferrably my long run.  dont want to 'lose' what i gained pounding the pavement for all my long runs trng for the 1/2.  it DEFINATELY made a difference.


and this is the first season (like you NEAL) where i actually HAVE a base to work w.

most of my seasons i was either building from Zero, or building from 3-4 miles.

its cool BUT new to working w a base through the winter.

come SPRING, look out! 

stacieb



Relax... deep breaths.

YOU WILL BE FINE!!!

did you know I'm clairvoyant? I have seen that you will have a good run. Now go make it so!


aw.  ANN.  thanks for this.  truly.

i appreciate you.

mwah!
stacieb


2009-11-12 7:23 AM
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Morning Ghoulies!
2009-11-12 7:23 AM
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2009-11-12 7:24 AM
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wgraves7582 - 2009-11-12 8:23 AM Ann is so helpful in so many different ways - way to pump Stacie up!

Stacie you are a rockstar - go play a tune!


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2009-11-12 7:25 AM
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2009-11-12 7:29 AM
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skrtrnr - 2009-11-11 3:24 PM

QUESTION GHOULIES.

im planning on running the PGH 1/2 IN MAY.

i was wondering, what should i maintain as my long run/base through the winter?

i was thinking 6-8 miles.

does that sound 'reasonable'?


last winter i was (re)building my base after my injury ie starting over from a BIG FAT ZERO so this winter maintenance/base trng is new to me.

stacieb



I think 8 seems pretty sensible.  Its a good middle ground so you are ready to hit your next half training plan and not too long to where you are really burning yourself out.

I was going to try 8-10 as my "maintenance" long run over the winter myself.  If I can get over this hip thing that's the plan.  Although this would be the first time I haven't had to start my running over from scratch after the off season so I can't tell you how well the plan will work.


this is where i usually am going into a race season, starting over from scratch or close to it, always building volume/distance, never maintaining.  so this all new to me too, NEAL.

i was originally thinking 8-10, and i talked to a marathon friend of mine and she does 5, 5, and 10 miles as her weekly runs through the winter.  and i thought heh.  she does FULLS and im only gonna do HALFs.

we talked and she thought 6-8 sounded 'reasonable'....

like you, i have a hip issue i have to consider.  though im getting weekly trmnts for it, i dont expect it to be a limiter in anyway, i want to give my body the 'respect' that it needs/deserves.


i think what ill do is try a month of 6-8 miles, and then re-evaluate, see where im at mentally&physically.  if its looking like i can bump it up a tad, i will, if not, then steady as i go.

i just dont want to lose anything and i dont want to push harder than whats necessary.

that SWEET SPOT right in between.

and i suppose the only way ill find that SPOT for me is by trail and error.

thanks again, NEAL, i really appreciate your input!
stacieb

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2009-11-12 7:30 AM
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wgraves7582 - 2009-11-12 8:25 AM
aspeelma - 2009-11-12 8:24 AM
wgraves7582 - 2009-11-12 8:23 AM Ann is so helpful in so many different ways - way to pump Stacie up!

Stacie you are a rockstar - go play a tune!


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I was trying to quietly hint at that direction but I am glad to see you picked up on it!


Fortunately you can't see me blushing right now.
2009-11-12 7:31 AM
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wgraves7582 - 2009-11-12 7:38 AM Well doctors be d&m*ed I went for a bike ride last night.  A long slow bike ride but I did it and I don't care how my ITB reacts.  It was not improving with doing what I was doing and my back always loosens up so nicely after I ride.

So I rolled it out a lot when I got home from swimming and it feels alright.  Going to go again tonight and am planning on a cyclocross race Saturday if all goes well.

I will avoid running until 12/1 but this weather has been way too nice to skip the bike!


Hope the ITB is behaving post bike!  I went to a cyclocross race last weekend.  It was amazing and a blast to watch.  I'd love to try it sometime, but need to seriously ramp up the bike handling skills.  More time on the MTB would probably help.  
2009-11-12 7:33 AM
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kcarroll - 2009-11-12 7:23 AM Morning Ghoulies!


MORNING KIM!
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2009-11-12 7:41 AM
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wgraves7582 - 2009-11-12 7:38 AM Well doctors be d&m*ed I went for a bike ride last night.  A long slow bike ride but I did it and I don't care how my ITB reacts.  It was not improving with doing what I was doing and my back always loosens up so nicely after I ride.

So I rolled it out a lot when I got home from swimming and it feels alright.  Going to go again tonight and am planning on a cyclocross race Saturday if all goes well.

I will avoid running until 12/1 but this weather has been way too nice to skip the bike!


Hope the ITB is behaving post bike!  I went to a cyclocross race last weekend.  It was amazing and a blast to watch.  I'd love to try it sometime, but need to seriously ramp up the bike handling skills.  More time on the MTB would probably help.  


Yes it would - KathyG on here does a lot of them and she never rode mountain bikes but wants to to get better at the handling.  Especially out east here all the rocks and roots will make cross seem easy!


must admit....I spend alot of time pushing the mtb up and down the hills.  Boy can I get anaerobic fast on the mtb.  Much tougher workout than on the road.
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2009-11-12 7:42 AM
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Hi Ann.

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skrtrnr - 2009-11-12 8:33 AM
kcarroll - 2009-11-12 7:23 AM Morning Ghoulies!


MORNING KIM!


What's up for the day?  I swam this morning.  Felt great.
2009-11-12 7:45 AM
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kcarroll - 2009-11-12 8:43 AM
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kcarroll - 2009-11-12 7:23 AM Morning Ghoulies!


MORNING KIM!


What's up for the day?  I swam this morning.  Felt great.


Swimming this afternoon.


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kcarroll - 2009-11-12 7:23 AM Morning Ghoulies!


MORNING KIM!


What's up for the day?  I swam this morning.  Felt great.


long run.  6-7 miles.

swimming and ST tomorrow.

what kinda of sets did you swim this morning?  or do you do long endurance swims?

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2009-11-12 7:47 AM
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im adding a very small amt of VERY non PALEO cheese to my otherwise VERY PALEO omelette.

shhhh.  dont tell.
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2009-11-12 7:49 AM
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kcarroll - 2009-11-12 7:23 AM Morning Ghoulies!


MORNING KIM!


What's up for the day?  I swam this morning.  Felt great.


long run.  6-7 miles.

swimming and ST tomorrow.

what kinda of sets did you swim this morning?  or do you do long endurance swims?

stacieb


Today was Masters Swim and the coach normal puts together the workout.  She was out today with H1N1 flu, so I just swam a long endurance swim. Tried to really focus on form.  I only learned to swim a couple years ago, so I'm really slow and working on getting balanced in the water.
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kcarroll - 2009-11-12 7:23 AM Morning Ghoulies!


MORNING KIM!


What's up for the day?  I swam this morning.  Felt great.


Swimming this afternoon.


whats your typical workout ANN?

stacieb


2009-11-12 7:51 AM
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kcarroll - 2009-11-12 7:23 AM Morning Ghoulies!


MORNING KIM!


What's up for the day?  I swam this morning.  Felt great.


Swimming this afternoon.


Are you a good swimmer?  Someone I should admire and envy?  Or someone I can happily share a lane with and not look like a dork?

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skrtrnr - 2009-11-12 7:47 AM im adding a very small amt of VERY non PALEO cheese to my otherwise VERY PALEO omelette.

shhhh.  dont tell.
stacieb


An omelet without cheese sounds like blasphemy.
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kcarroll - 2009-11-12 8:51 AM
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kcarroll - 2009-11-12 8:43 AM
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kcarroll - 2009-11-12 7:23 AM Morning Ghoulies!


MORNING KIM!


What's up for the day?  I swam this morning.  Felt great.


Swimming this afternoon.


Are you a good swimmer?  Someone I should admire and envy?  Or someone I can happily share a lane with and not look like a dork?


We could happily share a lane. I'd make your swimming look GOOOOOOOD!!!
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