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2008-01-30 11:12 PM
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Beth! Sounds like you had a great dinner! Has it all sunk in yet?


2008-01-30 11:13 PM
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kaqphin - 2008-01-30 11:08 PM
lastcall2003 - 2008-01-31 4:00 PM
kaqphin - 2008-01-30 10:56 PM

My life just got more complicated.... the division head (basically the head of our entire area who the boss has to get pay increases approved by...) wont approve any major salary increases until June... so while Im going to get a nice increase (not equal to the offer i was made but a solid increase) I will have to wait another 6-ish months....

My manager is furious about it... now what? I think the world is out to make this job decision tough!

just to make sure I understand, your pay increase was approved, but you won't see it for another 6 months or so?

I have to talk to the boss yet... my manager was letting me know the situation as a courtesy... (he probably wasnt suppose to!)

But.. here is what Im thinking... my contract is on a two year term that ends in June... so I can use that to force a slightly earlier (than everyone else) review anyway so instead of 6 months its more like 4 months away...

But i also want in writing what the exact pay increase would be then, and then what is available on top of that if I mean x,y,z etc because the increase is really to compensate for the past 12 months... not the next 6 so....

I need a title bump... not sure how to negotiate that but Im sure I can weave that in... and I want the training but not just anything.... with a really good 'looks good on a cv firm' which I know is already budgetted for anyway!

 

Not sure if this is enough but thats really all I can think of that I can do right now....

sounds like you are thinking of all of the right angles!

2008-01-30 11:14 PM
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kaqphin - 2008-01-30 11:12 PM Beth! Sounds like you had a great dinner! Has it all sunk in yet?

it was a great dinner!

i think tonight was the first night it started to sink in - wierd

2008-01-30 11:20 PM
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lastcall2003 - 2008-01-31 4:13 PM
kaqphin - 2008-01-30 11:08 PM
lastcall2003 - 2008-01-31 4:00 PM
kaqphin - 2008-01-30 10:56 PM

My life just got more complicated.... the division head (basically the head of our entire area who the boss has to get pay increases approved by...) wont approve any major salary increases until June... so while Im going to get a nice increase (not equal to the offer i was made but a solid increase) I will have to wait another 6-ish months....

My manager is furious about it... now what? I think the world is out to make this job decision tough!

just to make sure I understand, your pay increase was approved, but you won't see it for another 6 months or so?

I have to talk to the boss yet... my manager was letting me know the situation as a courtesy... (he probably wasnt suppose to!)

But.. here is what Im thinking... my contract is on a two year term that ends in June... so I can use that to force a slightly earlier (than everyone else) review anyway so instead of 6 months its more like 4 months away...

But i also want in writing what the exact pay increase would be then, and then what is available on top of that if I mean x,y,z etc because the increase is really to compensate for the past 12 months... not the next 6 so....

I need a title bump... not sure how to negotiate that but Im sure I can weave that in... and I want the training but not just anything.... with a really good 'looks good on a cv firm' which I know is already budgetted for anyway!

 

Not sure if this is enough but thats really all I can think of that I can do right now....

sounds like you are thinking of all of the right angles!

hehe I just need them to give me a reason to stay I think.... i havent told them about the job offer... not sure if I should...

2008-01-30 11:21 PM
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lastcall2003 - 2008-01-31 4:14 PM

kaqphin - 2008-01-30 11:12 PM Beth! Sounds like you had a great dinner! Has it all sunk in yet?

it was a great dinner!

i think tonight was the first night it started to sink in - wierd

Not at all... when I moved to Oz it too ages for it to sink in... and new jobs are the same when you ARENT changing anything else about your life!

2008-01-30 11:22 PM
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kaqphin - 2008-01-30 11:20 PM

hehe I just need them to give me a reason to stay I think.... i havent told them about the job offer... not sure if I should...

my only advice there would be - don't tell them about it unless you are ready to  take the other offer



2008-01-30 11:23 PM
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kaqphin - 2008-01-30 11:21 PM
lastcall2003 - 2008-01-31 4:14 PM

kaqphin - 2008-01-30 11:12 PM Beth! Sounds like you had a great dinner! Has it all sunk in yet?

it was a great dinner!

i think tonight was the first night it started to sink in - wierd

Not at all... when I moved to Oz it too ages for it to sink in... and new jobs are the same when you ARENT changing anything else about your life!

good point

next week will be really wierd!

2008-01-30 11:30 PM
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lastcall2003 - 2008-01-31 4:22 PM
kaqphin - 2008-01-30 11:20 PM

hehe I just need them to give me a reason to stay I think.... i havent told them about the job offer... not sure if I should...

my only advice there would be - don't tell them about it unless you are ready to  take the other offer

Thats what Im thinking.... although knowing that my boss and my old boss know the same ppl I might tell them afterwards as a courtesy...

2008-01-30 11:31 PM
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lastcall2003 - 2008-01-31 4:23 PM
kaqphin - 2008-01-30 11:21 PM
lastcall2003 - 2008-01-31 4:14 PM

kaqphin - 2008-01-30 11:12 PM Beth! Sounds like you had a great dinner! Has it all sunk in yet?

it was a great dinner!

i think tonight was the first night it started to sink in - wierd

Not at all... when I moved to Oz it too ages for it to sink in... and new jobs are the same when you ARENT changing anything else about your life!

good point

next week will be really wierd!

Nah it will be exciting!

2008-01-30 11:31 PM
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kaqphin - 2008-01-30 11:30 PM
lastcall2003 - 2008-01-31 4:22 PM
kaqphin - 2008-01-30 11:20 PM

hehe I just need them to give me a reason to stay I think.... i havent told them about the job offer... not sure if I should...

my only advice there would be - don't tell them about it unless you are ready to  take the other offer

Thats what Im thinking.... although knowing that my boss and my old boss know the same ppl I might tell them afterwards as a courtesy...

does that mean you are leaning a certain way?

2008-01-30 11:32 PM
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kaqphin - 2008-01-30 11:31 PM
lastcall2003 - 2008-01-31 4:23 PM
kaqphin - 2008-01-30 11:21 PM
lastcall2003 - 2008-01-31 4:14 PM

kaqphin - 2008-01-30 11:12 PM Beth! Sounds like you had a great dinner! Has it all sunk in yet?

it was a great dinner!

i think tonight was the first night it started to sink in - wierd

Not at all... when I moved to Oz it too ages for it to sink in... and new jobs are the same when you ARENT changing anything else about your life!

good point

next week will be really wierd!

Nah it will be exciting!

you're right!  it will be



2008-01-30 11:33 PM
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It's strange, because people keep telling me how brave and courageous I am - I just think I did what needed to be done
2008-01-30 11:33 PM
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lastcall2003 - 2008-01-31 4:31 PM
kaqphin - 2008-01-30 11:30 PM
lastcall2003 - 2008-01-31 4:22 PM
kaqphin - 2008-01-30 11:20 PM

hehe I just need them to give me a reason to stay I think.... i havent told them about the job offer... not sure if I should...

my only advice there would be - don't tell them about it unless you are ready to  take the other offer

Thats what Im thinking.... although knowing that my boss and my old boss know the same ppl I might tell them afterwards as a courtesy...

does that mean you are leaning a certain way?

Well I have been the whole time i think.... staying here...

But with the money on offer, and not getting hte response i want here, plus todays not been a great day at work.... so its not the best day for making a decision!

2008-01-30 11:36 PM
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kaqphin - 2008-01-30 11:33 PM
lastcall2003 - 2008-01-31 4:31 PM
kaqphin - 2008-01-30 11:30 PM
lastcall2003 - 2008-01-31 4:22 PM
kaqphin - 2008-01-30 11:20 PM

hehe I just need them to give me a reason to stay I think.... i havent told them about the job offer... not sure if I should...

my only advice there would be - don't tell them about it unless you are ready to  take the other offer

Thats what Im thinking.... although knowing that my boss and my old boss know the same ppl I might tell them afterwards as a courtesy...

does that mean you are leaning a certain way?

Well I have been the whole time i think.... staying here...

But with the money on offer, and not getting hte response i want here, plus todays not been a great day at work.... so its not the best day for making a decision!

it sounds like you really enjoy what you are doing and what the future holds, that counts for a lot!

it strikes me, that if in spite of a bad day and the other things, you still are leaning the same direction - you must be making the right decision

2008-01-30 11:56 PM
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lastcall2003 - 2008-01-31 4:33 PM It's strange, because people keep telling me how brave and courageous I am - I just think I did what needed to be done

True - I think being single and kid free (like I am) would make it easier though.... I t hink the longer you are in one place the harder it is to leave too...

Im the person who when they hear someone whinging continuously about their job I ask them what they are doing to change the situation.... I understand a bad day... but if its a 24/7 misery affecting your personal state of being and you are just putting up with it...

Well... thats when you do what needs to be done.

 

FWIW Beth... I think you are 100% doing the best thing!!!

2008-01-30 11:56 PM
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lastcall2003 - 2008-01-31 4:36 PM
kaqphin - 2008-01-30 11:33 PM
lastcall2003 - 2008-01-31 4:31 PM
kaqphin - 2008-01-30 11:30 PM
lastcall2003 - 2008-01-31 4:22 PM
kaqphin - 2008-01-30 11:20 PM

hehe I just need them to give me a reason to stay I think.... i havent told them about the job offer... not sure if I should...

my only advice there would be - don't tell them about it unless you are ready to  take the other offer

Thats what Im thinking.... although knowing that my boss and my old boss know the same ppl I might tell them afterwards as a courtesy...

does that mean you are leaning a certain way?

Well I have been the whole time i think.... staying here...

But with the money on offer, and not getting hte response i want here, plus todays not been a great day at work.... so its not the best day for making a decision!

it sounds like you really enjoy what you are doing and what the future holds, that counts for a lot!

it strikes me, that if in spite of a bad day and the other things, you still are leaning the same direction - you must be making the right decision

Thanks!



2008-01-30 11:57 PM
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Just got off my phone... a really close friend of mine moved out of the house he shared with his wife on MOnday night... he was just getting in touch...

Oh and they work together too... (and I never liked her... not that he knows that)

 

I dont need to create chaos in my life... it comes to me!



Edited by kaqphin 2008-01-30 11:58 PM
2008-01-30 11:58 PM
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kaqphin - 2008-01-30 11:56 PM

lastcall2003 - 2008-01-31 4:33 PM It's strange, because people keep telling me how brave and courageous I am - I just think I did what needed to be done

True - I think being single and kid free (like I am) would make it easier though.... I t hink the longer you are in one place the harder it is to leave too...

Im the person who when they hear someone whinging continuously about their job I ask them what they are doing to change the situation.... I understand a bad day... but if its a 24/7 misery affecting your personal state of being and you are just putting up with it...

Well... thats when you do what needs to be done.

 

FWIW Beth... I think you are 100% doing the best thing!!!

exactly! and, well, sometimes that means a pretty big change

2008-01-30 11:59 PM
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kaqphin - 2008-01-30 11:56 PM

lastcall2003 - 2008-01-31 4:33 PM It's strange, because people keep telling me how brave and courageous I am - I just think I did what needed to be done

True - I think being single and kid free (like I am) would make it easier though.... I t hink the longer you are in one place the harder it is to leave too...

Im the person who when they hear someone whinging continuously about their job I ask them what they are doing to change the situation.... I understand a bad day... but if its a 24/7 misery affecting your personal state of being and you are just putting up with it...

Well... thats when you do what needs to be done.

 

FWIW Beth... I think you are 100% doing the best thing!!!

thanks Cat!  that means a lot

2008-01-31 12:00 AM
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kaqphin - 2008-01-30 11:57 PM

Just got off my phone... a really close friend of mine moved out of the house he shared with his wife on MOnday night... he was just getting in touch...

Oh and they work together too... (and I never liked her... not that he knows that)

 

I dont need to create chaos in my life... it comes to me!

hehehe

i seem to be afflicted with that myself to some degree

2008-01-31 12:11 AM
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lastcall2003 - 2008-01-31 5:00 PM
kaqphin - 2008-01-30 11:57 PM

Just got off my phone... a really close friend of mine moved out of the house he shared with his wife on MOnday night... he was just getting in touch...

Oh and they work together too... (and I never liked her... not that he knows that)

 

I dont need to create chaos in my life... it comes to me!

hehehe

i seem to be afflicted with that myself to some degree

haha I always think I have a straight forward dull life - no kids, no partner, no real social circle or anything like that....

But... somehow.....



2008-01-31 12:11 AM
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lastcall2003 - 2008-01-31 4:59 PM
kaqphin - 2008-01-30 11:56 PM

lastcall2003 - 2008-01-31 4:33 PM It's strange, because people keep telling me how brave and courageous I am - I just think I did what needed to be done

True - I think being single and kid free (like I am) would make it easier though.... I t hink the longer you are in one place the harder it is to leave too...

Im the person who when they hear someone whinging continuously about their job I ask them what they are doing to change the situation.... I understand a bad day... but if its a 24/7 misery affecting your personal state of being and you are just putting up with it...

Well... thats when you do what needs to be done.

 

FWIW Beth... I think you are 100% doing the best thing!!!

thanks Cat!  that means a lot

And... with all these changes... Nibbs will still be here!

2008-01-31 12:11 AM
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kaqphin - 2008-01-31 12:11 AM
lastcall2003 - 2008-01-31 5:00 PM
kaqphin - 2008-01-30 11:57 PM

Just got off my phone... a really close friend of mine moved out of the house he shared with his wife on MOnday night... he was just getting in touch...

Oh and they work together too... (and I never liked her... not that he knows that)

 

I dont need to create chaos in my life... it comes to me!

hehehe

i seem to be afflicted with that myself to some degree

haha I always think I have a straight forward dull life - no kids, no partner, no real social circle or anything like that....

But... somehow.....

LOL

well, you are a super hottie!

2008-01-31 12:16 AM
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lastcall2003 - 2008-01-31 5:11 PM
kaqphin - 2008-01-31 12:11 AM
lastcall2003 - 2008-01-31 5:00 PM
kaqphin - 2008-01-30 11:57 PM

Just got off my phone... a really close friend of mine moved out of the house he shared with his wife on MOnday night... he was just getting in touch...

Oh and they work together too... (and I never liked her... not that he knows that)

 

I dont need to create chaos in my life... it comes to me!

hehehe

i seem to be afflicted with that myself to some degree

haha I always think I have a straight forward dull life - no kids, no partner, no real social circle or anything like that....

But... somehow.....

LOL

well, you are a super hottie!

LMAO - I will be if I stop having three course lunches with a bottle of wine and srtart doing some training

The American men just love my accent!

2008-01-31 12:21 AM
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kaqphin - 2008-01-31 12:16 AM

The American men just love my accent!

oh yeah!

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