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 2016-10-28 1:12 PM in reply to: 0 |
Master 5557    , California |  Subject: RE: Election 2016Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by Rogillio Here's a scenario.... Hillary is elected. But GOP holds congress. More evidence of fraud with the Clinton Foundation and the IRS comes out. More evidence of quid pro quo while she was SofS......GOP congress impeaches her! I can see a Trivia Pursuit question in the 2150 edition: Who were the only husband and wife to have both been impeached as POTUS? I agree, there's virtually zero chance that she doesn't get impeached if the R's hold both the House and the Senate. She's committed way more crimes than her Hubby ever dreamed of. Her and her Husband are also going to jail if Trump gets in office and it has nothing to do with punishing opponents, it has to do with them breaking the LAW and thinking they could get away with it. OK a) innocent until proven guilty. Or do you only care about the 2nd amendment? b) no one has yet verified the accuracy of any of those Wikileaks emails. If you follow past document dumps, you'll know that these players (like Wikileaks) have a pattern of releasing *many* things intact, and then altering a few key things. So if someone builds a prosecution effort, they better know the data is clean. Rep Jason Chaffetz, chairman of the House oversight committee, was really going after House Republicans to avoid the Wikileaks docs, both due to questionable accuracy, and because they are stolen -- both of which put any potential prosecution at risk. c) It's a huge waste of taxpayer dollars to continue this partisan bickering when Obama can easily issue a pardon as a lame duck. And a president can even issue a pardon for a crime someone hasn't committed yet, so the pardon itself doesn't imply guilt. I suspect the Senate will flip to the Democrats anyhow, but the House has already had YEARS of going after Hillary. Maybe they should do some work for other Americans for a change. Edited by spudone 2016-10-28 1:14 PM |
| 2016-10-28 1:26 PM in reply to: spudone |
Champion 10157 Alabama | Subject: RE: Election 2016 Originally posted by spudone Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by Rogillio Here's a scenario.... Hillary is elected. But GOP holds congress. More evidence of fraud with the Clinton Foundation and the IRS comes out. More evidence of quid pro quo while she was SofS......GOP congress impeaches her! I can see a Trivia Pursuit question in the 2150 edition: Who were the only husband and wife to have both been impeached as POTUS? I agree, there's virtually zero chance that she doesn't get impeached if the R's hold both the House and the Senate. She's committed way more crimes than her Hubby ever dreamed of. Her and her Husband are also going to jail if Trump gets in office and it has nothing to do with punishing opponents, it has to do with them breaking the LAW and thinking they could get away with it. OK a) innocent until proven guilty. Or do you only care about the 2nd amendment? b) no one has yet verified the accuracy of any of those Wikileaks emails. If you follow past document dumps, you'll know that these players (like Wikileaks) have a pattern of releasing *many* things intact, and then altering a few key things. So if someone builds a prosecution effort, they better know the data is clean. Rep Jason Chaffetz, chairman of the House oversight committee, was really going after House Republicans to avoid the Wikileaks docs, both due to questionable accuracy, and because they are stolen -- both of which put any potential prosecution at risk. c) It's a huge waste of taxpayer dollars to continue this partisan bickering when Obama can easily issue a pardon as a lame duck. And a president can even issue a pardon for a crime someone hasn't committed yet, so the pardon itself doesn't imply guilt. I suspect the Senate will flip to the Democrats anyhow, but the House has already had YEARS of going after Hillary. Maybe they should do some work for other Americans for a change. Not true. Much of the data has been proven authentic. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-24/we-can-prove-podesta-email... |
| 2016-10-28 1:38 PM in reply to: 0 |
Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: Election 2016 Originally posted by spudone Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by Rogillio Here's a scenario.... Hillary is elected. But GOP holds congress. More evidence of fraud with the Clinton Foundation and the IRS comes out. More evidence of quid pro quo while she was SofS......GOP congress impeaches her! I can see a Trivia Pursuit question in the 2150 edition: Who were the only husband and wife to have both been impeached as POTUS? I agree, there's virtually zero chance that she doesn't get impeached if the R's hold both the House and the Senate. She's committed way more crimes than her Hubby ever dreamed of. Her and her Husband are also going to jail if Trump gets in office and it has nothing to do with punishing opponents, it has to do with them breaking the LAW and thinking they could get away with it. OK a) innocent until proven guilty. Or do you only care about the 2nd amendment? b) no one has yet verified the accuracy of any of those Wikileaks emails. If you follow past document dumps, you'll know that these players (like Wikileaks) have a pattern of releasing *many* things intact, and then altering a few key things. So if someone builds a prosecution effort, they better know the data is clean. Rep Jason Chaffetz, chairman of the House oversight committee, was really going after House Republicans to avoid the Wikileaks docs, both due to questionable accuracy, and because they are stolen -- both of which put any potential prosecution at risk. c) It's a huge waste of taxpayer dollars to continue this partisan bickering when Obama can easily issue a pardon as a lame duck. And a president can even issue a pardon for a crime someone hasn't committed yet, so the pardon itself doesn't imply guilt. I suspect the Senate will flip to the Democrats anyhow, but the House has already had YEARS of going after Hillary. Maybe they should do some work for other Americans for a change. You mean like Trump vs. his accusers? Or do you only care about Democrats? LOL I personally think they're both guilty.....I'm just glad that lying, conniving bi@#tch doesn't get a free pass. Edited by Left Brain 2016-10-28 1:41 PM |
| 2016-10-28 1:56 PM in reply to: spudone |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: Election 2016 Originally posted by spudone Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by Rogillio Here's a scenario.... Hillary is elected. But GOP holds congress. More evidence of fraud with the Clinton Foundation and the IRS comes out. More evidence of quid pro quo while she was SofS......GOP congress impeaches her! I can see a Trivia Pursuit question in the 2150 edition: Who were the only husband and wife to have both been impeached as POTUS? I agree, there's virtually zero chance that she doesn't get impeached if the R's hold both the House and the Senate. She's committed way more crimes than her Hubby ever dreamed of. Her and her Husband are also going to jail if Trump gets in office and it has nothing to do with punishing opponents, it has to do with them breaking the LAW and thinking they could get away with it. OK a) innocent until proven guilty. Or do you only care about the 2nd amendment? b) no one has yet verified the accuracy of any of those Wikileaks emails. If you follow past document dumps, you'll know that these players (like Wikileaks) have a pattern of releasing *many* things intact, and then altering a few key things. So if someone builds a prosecution effort, they better know the data is clean. Rep Jason Chaffetz, chairman of the House oversight committee, was really going after House Republicans to avoid the Wikileaks docs, both due to questionable accuracy, and because they are stolen -- both of which put any potential prosecution at risk. c) It's a huge waste of taxpayer dollars to continue this partisan bickering when Obama can easily issue a pardon as a lame duck. And a president can even issue a pardon for a crime someone hasn't committed yet, so the pardon itself doesn't imply guilt. I suspect the Senate will flip to the Democrats anyhow, but the House has already had YEARS of going after Hillary. Maybe they should do some work for other Americans for a change. This has nothing to do with Wikileaks and Comey is already on record stating that she flat out broke the law, but he didn't feel she "intended to". She's a criminal period and it's already out there. As for Wikileaks authenticity, I can assure you that any email that gets modified won't pass the hash check from the embedded email hashes on all the emails. Meaning if even a space is added to any email released it will be obvious that it has been altered. |
| 2016-10-28 2:00 PM in reply to: tuwood |
| Oakville | Subject: RE: Election 2016 Originally posted by tuwood I guess it's official: https://twitter.com/frankthorp/status/792049114624163840/photo/1 C'mon, you know the Democrats held back a few Trump scandals in case of an emergency like this |
| 2016-10-28 2:03 PM in reply to: Left Brain |
Champion 10157 Alabama | Subject: RE: Election 2016 Here is my theory....I may be wrong...usually am..... The FBI realizes Wiki leaks is about to drop a bunch of emails from Hillary.....so rather than it look like they got bested by some 3rd rate hack shop, they figured out how to find some of the missing 30k emails. or The FBI has been investigating someone else on an unrelated case and found several classified emails on that persons harddrive that were sent by Hillary. Remember, when you write and send an email is it logged/archived all over the place on both the send and receive end...as well as any intermediate gateways it had to go thru to find the destination server and IP. I have long said there is no way to completely destroy an email once it has been sent across the internet....even if you hit you Blackberry with a hammer and use bleachbit on the sending server. It sill exists on the receiving server(s) and the receiver's HD. If it went international....it probably got logged on a satellite buffer or transatlantic underwater fiber server. |
| 2016-10-28 2:15 PM in reply to: Scott71 |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: Election 2016 Originally posted by Scott71 Originally posted by tuwood I guess it's official: https://twitter.com/frankthorp/status/792049114624163840/photo/1 C'mon, you know the Democrats held back a few Trump scandals in case of an emergency like this In all honestly I figured they did as well. I've kind of been waiting for something big to drop, but so far nothing. My speculation is that the bus video/audio was the nuclear option that they were going to use closer to the election but when the Wikileaks started dropping they had to use it early. Too early because it gave Trump time to recover. Had they dropped that bombshell this week there would have been no chance of recovery IMHO. |
| 2016-10-28 2:21 PM in reply to: Rogillio |
Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: Election 2016 Originally posted by Rogillio Here is my theory....I may be wrong...usually am..... The FBI realizes Wiki leaks is about to drop a bunch of emails from Hillary.....so rather than it look like they got bested by some 3rd rate hack shop, they figured out how to find some of the missing 30k emails. or The FBI has been investigating someone else on an unrelated case and found several classified emails on that persons harddrive that were sent by Hillary. Remember, when you write and send an email is it logged/archived all over the place on both the send and receive end...as well as any intermediate gateways it had to go thru to find the destination server and IP. I have long said there is no way to completely destroy an email once it has been sent across the internet....even if you hit you Blackberry with a hammer and use bleachbit on the sending server. It sill exists on the receiving server(s) and the receiver's HD. If it went international....it probably got logged on a satellite buffer or transatlantic underwater fiber server. Damn.....I just know that's where all my chit ends up. |
| 2016-10-28 2:24 PM in reply to: Left Brain |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: Election 2016 Originally posted by Left Brain Originally posted by Rogillio Here is my theory....I may be wrong...usually am..... The FBI realizes Wiki leaks is about to drop a bunch of emails from Hillary.....so rather than it look like they got bested by some 3rd rate hack shop, they figured out how to find some of the missing 30k emails. or The FBI has been investigating someone else on an unrelated case and found several classified emails on that persons harddrive that were sent by Hillary. Remember, when you write and send an email is it logged/archived all over the place on both the send and receive end...as well as any intermediate gateways it had to go thru to find the destination server and IP. I have long said there is no way to completely destroy an email once it has been sent across the internet....even if you hit you Blackberry with a hammer and use bleachbit on the sending server. It sill exists on the receiving server(s) and the receiver's HD. If it went international....it probably got logged on a satellite buffer or transatlantic underwater fiber server. Damn.....I just know that's where all my chit ends up. lol, those underwater fiber servers are the worst. |
| 2016-10-28 2:35 PM in reply to: tuwood |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: Election 2016 OMG, I seriously just choked from laughing so hard. New Clinton Emails Discovered During Anthony Weiner Sexting Investigation, FBI Source Tells Fox News. |
| 2016-10-28 2:48 PM in reply to: tuwood |
Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: Election 2016 I can only think of two reasons why the FBI would open this back up at this point, so close to the election.......11 days just doesn't make a hill of beans in an investigation of this type. 1. The information is out to the point where they couldn't control a leak and didn't want to appear biased in the investigation. 2. What they have is so damning they have to get it started since she will likely face charges and be impeached. I can see no other reason this has to be done now.
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| 2016-10-28 2:57 PM in reply to: Left Brain |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: Election 2016 Originally posted by Left Brain I can only think of two reasons why the FBI would open this back up at this point, so close to the election.......11 days just doesn't make a hill of beans in an investigation of this type. 1. The information is out to the point where they couldn't control a leak and didn't want to appear biased in the investigation. 2. What they have is so damning they have to get it started since she will likely face charges and be impeached. I can see no other reason this has to be done now.
I won't post links because they're thoroughly into the conspiracy realm, but there's been a lot of chatter on twitter and reddit the past two days about @KimDotCom having ALL of Hillary's emails and he just sent them to Wikileaks on Hillary's birthday. With my earlier post, if the Russians are involved with Wikileaks then they likely just received enough evidence to completely destroy Hillary and take down Obama with her. Her and the campaign had absolutely no idea this was happening which tells me Obama has officially thrown her to the sharks to try and save his own behind. |
| 2016-10-28 2:59 PM in reply to: Left Brain |
Elite 3515 Romeoville, Il | Subject: RE: Election 2016 Originally posted by Left Brain I can only think of two reasons why the FBI would open this back up at this point, so close to the election.......11 days just doesn't make a hill of beans in an investigation of this type. 1. The information is out to the point where they couldn't control a leak and didn't want to appear biased in the investigation. 2. What they have is so damning they have to get it started since she will likely face charges and be impeached. I can see no other reason this has to be done now.
those are the most likely for sure. But, I do see a scenario where they found this new device. They don't know for sure what they'll find on it and they have to get in front of it just in case. Comey is already lost credibility, he's flopping around like a fish to save face here. |
| 2016-10-28 3:01 PM in reply to: 0 |
Elite 3515 Romeoville, Il | Subject: RE: Election 2016 Originally posted by spudone Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by Rogillio Here's a scenario.... Hillary is elected. But GOP holds congress. More evidence of fraud with the Clinton Foundation and the IRS comes out. More evidence of quid pro quo while she was SofS......GOP congress impeaches her! I can see a Trivia Pursuit question in the 2150 edition: Who were the only husband and wife to have both been impeached as POTUS? I agree, there's virtually zero chance that she doesn't get impeached if the R's hold both the House and the Senate. She's committed way more crimes than her Hubby ever dreamed of. Her and her Husband are also going to jail if Trump gets in office and it has nothing to do with punishing opponents, it has to do with them breaking the LAW and thinking they could get away with it. OK a) innocent until proven guilty. Or do you only care about the 2nd amendment? b) no one has yet verified the accuracy of any of those Wikileaks emails. If you follow past document dumps, you'll know that these players (like Wikileaks) have a pattern of releasing *many* things intact, and then altering a few key things. So if someone builds a prosecution effort, they better know the data is clean. Rep Jason Chaffetz, chairman of the House oversight committee, was really going after House Republicans to avoid the Wikileaks docs, both due to questionable accuracy, and because they are stolen -- both of which put any potential prosecution at risk. c) It's a huge waste of taxpayer dollars to continue this partisan bickering when Obama can easily issue a pardon as a lame duck. And a president can even issue a pardon for a crime someone hasn't committed yet, so the pardon itself doesn't imply guilt. I suspect the Senate will flip to the Democrats anyhow, but the House has already had YEARS of going after Hillary. Maybe they should do some work for other Americans for a change. FYI, 2nd amendment has nothing to do with Innocent until proven guilty Pardon doesn't imply guilt! *cough *cough LOL Edited by Meulen 2016-10-28 3:02 PM |
| 2016-10-28 3:01 PM in reply to: Meulen |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: Election 2016 Originally posted by Meulen Originally posted by Left Brain those are the most likely for sure. But, I do see a scenario where they found this new device. They don't know for sure what they'll find on it and they have to get in front of it just in case. Comey is already lost credibility, he's flopping around like a fish to save face here. I can only think of two reasons why the FBI would open this back up at this point, so close to the election.......11 days just doesn't make a hill of beans in an investigation of this type. 1. The information is out to the point where they couldn't control a leak and didn't want to appear biased in the investigation. 2. What they have is so damning they have to get it started since she will likely face charges and be impeached. I can see no other reason this has to be done now.
I know what you're saying, but if that were the case there would be absolutely no reason for him to do it this close to the election. He could just as easily do it after the election and not make the political waves. |
| 2016-10-28 3:04 PM in reply to: tuwood |
Champion 10157 Alabama | Subject: RE: Election 2016 Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by Left Brain Originally posted by Rogillio Here is my theory....I may be wrong...usually am..... The FBI realizes Wiki leaks is about to drop a bunch of emails from Hillary.....so rather than it look like they got bested by some 3rd rate hack shop, they figured out how to find some of the missing 30k emails. or The FBI has been investigating someone else on an unrelated case and found several classified emails on that persons harddrive that were sent by Hillary. Remember, when you write and send an email is it logged/archived all over the place on both the send and receive end...as well as any intermediate gateways it had to go thru to find the destination server and IP. I have long said there is no way to completely destroy an email once it has been sent across the internet....even if you hit you Blackberry with a hammer and use bleachbit on the sending server. It sill exists on the receiving server(s) and the receiver's HD. If it went international....it probably got logged on a satellite buffer or transatlantic underwater fiber server. Damn.....I just know that's where all my chit ends up. lol, those underwater fiber servers are the worst. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transatlantic_communications_cable Many of these have I/O buffers. And unless the data is enkrypted it can be intercepted and recorded. I always marveled how I could FT my wife from Singapore. |
| 2016-10-28 3:05 PM in reply to: 0 |
Elite 3515 Romeoville, Il | Subject: RE: Election 2016 Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by Meulen Originally posted by Left Brain those are the most likely for sure. But, I do see a scenario where they found this new device. They don't know for sure what they'll find on it and they have to get in front of it just in case. Comey is already lost credibility, he's flopping around like a fish to save face here. I can only think of two reasons why the FBI would open this back up at this point, so close to the election.......11 days just doesn't make a hill of beans in an investigation of this type. 1. The information is out to the point where they couldn't control a leak and didn't want to appear biased in the investigation. 2. What they have is so damning they have to get it started since she will likely face charges and be impeached. I can see no other reason this has to be done now.
I know what you're saying, but if that were the case there would be absolutely no reason for him to do it this close to the election. He could just as easily do it after the election and not make the political waves. If she gets elected, and then indicted it will look REALLY bad, if he didn't bring this up and create the possibility before hand. This way he can say "I told you so". If he waited, he would be the guy who's fault it is we didn't have all the information before the election and we elected a criminal on his word Edited by Meulen 2016-10-28 3:06 PM |
| 2016-10-28 3:09 PM in reply to: Rogillio |
Champion 10157 Alabama | Subject: RE: Election 2016 They are saying now they were sloppy cleaning Weinners device. |
| 2016-10-28 3:11 PM in reply to: Rogillio |
| Master 5557 , California | Subject: RE: Election 2016 This has nothing to do with Wikileaks and Comey is already on record stating that she flat out broke the law, but he didn't feel she "intended to". She's a criminal period and it's already out there. And, once again, Comey can say anything he wants. It proves nothing, and he has proved nothing in court.
FYI, 2nd amendment has nothing to do with Innocent until proven guilty I didn't say it did. I'm just saying that conservatives go crazy defending the 2nd on one hand, and then easily dismiss the 5th, 6th, etc when it is convenient.
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| 2016-10-28 3:13 PM in reply to: Rogillio |
Champion 10157 Alabama | Subject: RE: Election 2016 I am just shaking my head. Bill was supposed to have taken care of this on the airplane with Lynch. |
| 2016-10-28 3:13 PM in reply to: Rogillio |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: Election 2016 Originally posted by Rogillio They are saying now they were sloppy cleaning Weinners device. This gives me a bad picture in my head |
| 2016-10-28 3:14 PM in reply to: Rogillio |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: Election 2016 Originally posted by Rogillio I am just shaking my head. Bill was supposed to have taken care of this on the airplane with Lynch. Time for another quick meeting to talk about the grandkids. |
| 2016-10-28 3:26 PM in reply to: tuwood |
Champion 10157 Alabama | Subject: RE: Election 2016 Ok, I got it.... The FBI seiezed Weinner's PC. This was their home PC. The same PC the Humma used to correspond with Hillary. When looking for emails relative to the Weinner probe the stumbled on HRC/Humma emails.....some of which might be considered classified. So now they need time to assess the dozen or hundred or thousand or so emails to see if HRC knowingly sent more classified emails. |
| 2016-10-28 3:30 PM in reply to: Rogillio |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: Election 2016 I have to say I didn't think it would be possible for Trump to be "one upped" on the bus recording. Hillary officially one upped him and all polls are out the window at this point. |
| 2016-10-28 3:33 PM in reply to: spudone |
Elite 3515 Romeoville, Il | Subject: RE: Election 2016 Originally posted by spudone This has nothing to do with Wikileaks and Comey is already on record stating that she flat out broke the law, but he didn't feel she "intended to". She's a criminal period and it's already out there. And, once again, Comey can say anything he wants. It proves nothing, and he has proved nothing in court.
FYI, 2nd amendment has nothing to do with Innocent until proven guilty I didn't say it did. I'm just saying that conservatives go crazy defending the 2nd on one hand, and then easily dismiss the 5th, 6th, etc when it is convenient.
Nobody is dismissing any amendments. The people deserve answers before the election, and there's no way you can sit here and tell me this investigations wasn't bungled in every which direction. |
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