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2010-08-10 8:20 PM
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disturbed275 - 2010-08-10 5:48 PM So quite the frustrating doctor's visit today.  X-rays were negative which is a good thing.  Doc seemed to think it could be impingement that is causing the pain and wants me to see an orthopedist.  Bad news is I can't get in to the ortho until September which is far too late for diagnosis.  I'm heading back to the PT to see what her opinion is.  Right now I am wondering how much fitness I would lose due to 6 weeks of inactivity - lol


Impingement of what? The inguinal nerve?

Hope PT has some suggestions for you.


Not sure.  My doc didn't even show up to explain the x-rays to me. (Did I mention the trip was FRUSTRATING)  My best guess is Femoroacetabular Impingement.  Still doing my research.  That or groin tear or pull and the treatment is REST so I really can't go wrong....


Ah. femoroacetabular impingment should typically present with pain that is more anterolateral than the groin...but I guess it could radiate

I'll look it up too. Wooo med databases.



Glad there's a doctor in the house cuz I probably don't know what I'm talking about


Well I'm not a doctor (disclaimer**) Haha.

Found stuff. Reading through it...


Well, not a doctor but an aspiring MD who isn't interfering with her research with several beers....


How do you know I am not?


Haha....you drink about as often as a camel lost in the desert


Pfft. You do not know this. I could be sitting here right now with a can of Canadian...

Where do you come up with these statements: camel lost in the desert...


Canadian what?  All I know is LaBatt's blue.  I remember Clearly Canadian back in grade school, but that was sparkling water


2010-08-10 8:21 PM
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So Neal...

What happens when you do this/ did the doctor do this?

2010-08-10 8:22 PM
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mndymond - 2010-08-10 8:21 PM So Neal...

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Owwww!
2010-08-10 8:23 PM
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disturbed275 - 2010-08-10 5:48 PM So quite the frustrating doctor's visit today.  X-rays were negative which is a good thing.  Doc seemed to think it could be impingement that is causing the pain and wants me to see an orthopedist.  Bad news is I can't get in to the ortho until September which is far too late for diagnosis.  I'm heading back to the PT to see what her opinion is.  Right now I am wondering how much fitness I would lose due to 6 weeks of inactivity - lol


Impingement of what? The inguinal nerve?

Hope PT has some suggestions for you.


Not sure.  My doc didn't even show up to explain the x-rays to me. (Did I mention the trip was FRUSTRATING)  My best guess is Femoroacetabular Impingement.  Still doing my research.  That or groin tear or pull and the treatment is REST so I really can't go wrong....


Ah. femoroacetabular impingment should typically present with pain that is more anterolateral than the groin...but I guess it could radiate

I'll look it up too. Wooo med databases.



Glad there's a doctor in the house cuz I probably don't know what I'm talking about


Well I'm not a doctor (disclaimer**) Haha.

Found stuff. Reading through it...


Well, not a doctor but an aspiring MD who isn't interfering with her research with several beers....


How do you know I am not?


Haha....you drink about as often as a camel lost in the desert


Pfft. You do not know this. I could be sitting here right now with a can of Canadian...

Where do you come up with these statements: camel lost in the desert...


Canadian what?  All I know is LaBatt's blue.  I remember Clearly Canadian back in grade school, but that was sparkling water


Molson Canadian...Kokanee...Alex Keith's...Coors...

Our beer is more robust that your beer...your beer is like sparkling water...
2010-08-10 8:24 PM
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mndymond - 2010-08-10 8:21 PM So Neal...

What happens when you do this/ did the doctor do this?



Owwww!


Except on the right side
2010-08-10 8:24 PM
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mndymond - 2010-08-10 8:21 PM So Neal...

What happens when you do this/ did the doctor do this?



Owwww!


Except on the right side


And I make that blouse look good


2010-08-10 8:25 PM
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disturbed275 - 2010-08-10 5:48 PM So quite the frustrating doctor's visit today.  X-rays were negative which is a good thing.  Doc seemed to think it could be impingement that is causing the pain and wants me to see an orthopedist.  Bad news is I can't get in to the ortho until September which is far too late for diagnosis.  I'm heading back to the PT to see what her opinion is.  Right now I am wondering how much fitness I would lose due to 6 weeks of inactivity - lol


Impingement of what? The inguinal nerve?

Hope PT has some suggestions for you.


Not sure.  My doc didn't even show up to explain the x-rays to me. (Did I mention the trip was FRUSTRATING)  My best guess is Femoroacetabular Impingement.  Still doing my research.  That or groin tear or pull and the treatment is REST so I really can't go wrong....


Ah. femoroacetabular impingment should typically present with pain that is more anterolateral than the groin...but I guess it could radiate

I'll look it up too. Wooo med databases.



Glad there's a doctor in the house cuz I probably don't know what I'm talking about


Well I'm not a doctor (disclaimer**) Haha.

Found stuff. Reading through it...


Well, not a doctor but an aspiring MD who isn't interfering with her research with several beers....


How do you know I am not?


Haha....you drink about as often as a camel lost in the desert


Pfft. You do not know this. I could be sitting here right now with a can of Canadian...

Where do you come up with these statements: camel lost in the desert...


Canadian what?  All I know is LaBatt's blue.  I remember Clearly Canadian back in grade school, but that was sparkling water


Molson Canadian...Kokanee...Alex Keith's...Coors...

Our beer is more robust that your beer...your beer is like sparkling water...


Ignore our light beer.  It's all awful....
2010-08-10 8:28 PM
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mndymond - 2010-08-10 8:21 PM So Neal...

What happens when you do this/ did the doctor do this?



Owwww!


Except on the right side


And I make that blouse look good


Well its not a blouse...its more a cardigan...

It doesn't hurt on the right side? Just on the left side when you do ^^^?
2010-08-10 8:30 PM
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mndymond - 2010-08-10 8:21 PM So Neal...

What happens when you do this/ did the doctor do this?



Owwww!


Except on the right side


And I make that blouse look good


Well its not a blouse...its more a cardigan...

It doesn't hurt on the right side? Just on the left side when you do ^^^?


No.  It's all right side. 
2010-08-10 8:31 PM
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disturbed275 - 2010-08-10 5:48 PM So quite the frustrating doctor's visit today.  X-rays were negative which is a good thing.  Doc seemed to think it could be impingement that is causing the pain and wants me to see an orthopedist.  Bad news is I can't get in to the ortho until September which is far too late for diagnosis.  I'm heading back to the PT to see what her opinion is.  Right now I am wondering how much fitness I would lose due to 6 weeks of inactivity - lol


Impingement of what? The inguinal nerve?

Hope PT has some suggestions for you.


Not sure.  My doc didn't even show up to explain the x-rays to me. (Did I mention the trip was FRUSTRATING)  My best guess is Femoroacetabular Impingement.  Still doing my research.  That or groin tear or pull and the treatment is REST so I really can't go wrong....


Ah. femoroacetabular impingment should typically present with pain that is more anterolateral than the groin...but I guess it could radiate

I'll look it up too. Wooo med databases.



Glad there's a doctor in the house cuz I probably don't know what I'm talking about


Well I'm not a doctor (disclaimer**) Haha.

Found stuff. Reading through it...


Well, not a doctor but an aspiring MD who isn't interfering with her research with several beers....


How do you know I am not?


Haha....you drink about as often as a camel lost in the desert


Pfft. You do not know this. I could be sitting here right now with a can of Canadian...

Where do you come up with these statements: camel lost in the desert...


Canadian what?  All I know is LaBatt's blue.  I remember Clearly Canadian back in grade school, but that was sparkling water


Molson Canadian...Kokanee...Alex Keith's...Coors...

Our beer is more robust that your beer...your beer is like sparkling water...


Ignore our light beer.  It's all awful....


Our beer is more robust than your beer...light or not. Haha.

I have nightmares of Canadian though...Its a pain in the azz to pour (from bartending experience) and being covered in it is gross (from beer hawking experience)...beer beer everywhere.
2010-08-10 8:33 PM
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disturbed275 - 2010-08-10 8:24 PM
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mndymond - 2010-08-10 8:21 PM So Neal...

What happens when you do this/ did the doctor do this?



Owwww!


Except on the right side


And I make that blouse look good


Well its not a blouse...its more a cardigan...

It doesn't hurt on the right side? Just on the left side when you do ^^^?


No.  It's all right side. 


Haha. Okay...I'm confused...I'm not sure if this is my own doing or your doing. So when you lift your right leg (as seen in the picture), you have pain in the right side of your groin just like you would have while running?


2010-08-10 8:34 PM
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mndymond - 2010-08-10 8:21 PM So Neal...

What happens when you do this/ did the doctor do this?



Owwww!


Except on the right side


And I make that blouse look good


Well its not a blouse...its more a cardigan...

It doesn't hurt on the right side? Just on the left side when you do ^^^?


No.  It's all right side. 


Haha. Okay...I'm confused...I'm not sure if this is my own doing or your doing. So when you lift your right leg (as seen in the picture), you have pain in the right side of your groin just like you would have while running?


In the picture they are lifting their left leg and that lifting/ bending motion hurts my right upper groin area
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mndymond - 2010-08-10 8:21 PM So Neal...

What happens when you do this/ did the doctor do this?



Owwww!


Except on the right side


And I make that blouse look good


Well its not a blouse...its more a cardigan...

It doesn't hurt on the right side? Just on the left side when you do ^^^?


No.  It's all right side. 


Haha. Okay...I'm confused...I'm not sure if this is my own doing or your doing. So when you lift your right leg (as seen in the picture), you have pain in the right side of your groin just like you would have while running?


In the picture they are lifting their left leg and that lifting/ bending motion hurts my right upper groin area


I know they are lifting the left leg in the picture...okay when you lift your right leg like they are lifting the left leg...do you get pain in your right upper groin area? (The right upper groin area is the side that was hurting to begin with correct?)
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mndymond - 2010-08-10 8:21 PM So Neal...

What happens when you do this/ did the doctor do this?



Owwww!


Except on the right side


And I make that blouse look good


Well its not a blouse...its more a cardigan...

It doesn't hurt on the right side? Just on the left side when you do ^^^?


No.  It's all right side. 


Haha. Okay...I'm confused...I'm not sure if this is my own doing or your doing. So when you lift your right leg (as seen in the picture), you have pain in the right side of your groin just like you would have while running?


In the picture they are lifting their left leg and that lifting/ bending motion hurts my right upper groin area


I know they are lifting the left leg in the picture...okay when you lift your right leg like they are lifting the left leg...do you get pain in your right upper groin area? (The right upper groin area is the side that was hurting to begin with correct?)


Yes.  Yes I do
2010-08-10 8:43 PM
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I know they are lifting the left leg in the picture...okay when you lift your right leg like they are lifting the left leg...do you get pain in your right upper groin area? (The right upper groin area is the side that was hurting to begin with correct?)


Yes.  Yes I do


Ok. I understand what you meant before now.

Sorry I'm not trying to be difficult. Haha


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Hi Shawn.  Hope my groin didn't interrupt your evening too bad...LOL
2010-08-10 8:54 PM
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Hi Shawn.  Hope my groin didn't interrupt your evening too bad...LOL


I've only been here a short time and I'm already quite used to talking about both your and Bill's groins.  It just seems to be a hazard of being a denizen of the land of Ghoul.

Even so, I do hope you can find out what is wrong and feel better soon.  I know from experience there's nothing more frustrating than not knowing when something is wrong!
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Ok.

So. From what I have read and subsequently somehow deduced from ^^ up there...

The move ^^ that the woman is doing in the picture is called a "hip impingement test". It is 90% sensitive for femoroacetabular impingement (FAI) syndrome--meaning that 90% of people who have a positive test result (pain) have been confirmed during surgery or via radiology to have FAI or in other words there is a 10% chance according to the literature that if you have the pain you won't have FAI. However, this is only unilateral pain. The fact that you have the same pain when you lift either leg suggests that it could be an acute soft tissue injury that is quite inflammed right now and could be the reason it is a positive test? Or you could have both a soft tissue injury and FAI at the same time...(I'm sorry...I really want to give you a "its just a soft tissue pain"...)

I don't know if they saw anything on the x-ray. But FAI requires abnormal contact of the femoral head with acetabulum (socket of the hip joint). So it can either be abnormal bone formation on the femoral head/neck (which is more common in men your age) or abnormal "lipping" of the acetabulum. I think it is a consideration for you...but it is typically an uncommon source of groin pain.

Did you land more on your right side in the crash?

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Hi Shawn.  Hope my groin didn't interrupt your evening too bad...LOL


I've only been here a short time and I'm already quite used to talking about both your and Bill's groins.  It just seems to be a hazard of being a denizen of the land of Ghoul.

Even so, I do hope you can find out what is wrong and feel better soon.  I know from experience there's nothing more frustrating than not knowing when something is wrong!


Hi Shawn. I like the subject of Neal's groin right now...I am learning...


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mndymond - 2010-08-10 8:59 PM Ok.

So. From what I have read and subsequently somehow deduced from ^^ up there...

The move ^^ that the woman is doing in the picture is called a "hip impingement test". It is 90% sensitive for femoroacetabular impingement (FAI) syndrome--meaning that 90% of people who have a positive test result (pain) have been confirmed during surgery or via radiology to have FAI or in other words there is a 10% chance according to the literature that if you have the pain you won't have FAI. However, this is only unilateral pain. The fact that you have the same pain when you lift either leg suggests that it could be an acute soft tissue injury that is quite inflammed right now and could be the reason it is a positive test? Or you could have both a soft tissue injury and FAI at the same time...(I'm sorry...I really want to give you a "its just a soft tissue pain"...)

I don't know if they saw anything on the x-ray. But FAI requires abnormal contact of the femoral head with acetabulum (socket of the hip joint). So it can either be abnormal bone formation on the femoral head/neck (which is more common in men your age) or abnormal "lipping" of the acetabulum. I think it is a consideration for you...but it is typically an uncommon source of groin pain.

Did you land more on your right side in the crash?



Thanks.  Yes I landed on the right side.  Quite harcdore actually...hip...head....shoulder.  The wierd thing about impingement that I read up on was that it wasn't brought on by acute injury in most cases.  Weird.  Maybe I aggravated something already there.....
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Hi Shawn.  Hope my groin didn't interrupt your evening too bad...LOL


I've only been here a short time and I'm already quite used to talking about both your and Bill's groins.  It just seems to be a hazard of being a denizen of the land of Ghoul.

Even so, I do hope you can find out what is wrong and feel better soon.  I know from experience there's nothing more frustrating than not knowing when something is wrong!


Well....since my groin and Bill's is already out there we can always shift our attention to another groin.  I'm sure the normal ghoulie gals will not object and hopefully your wife does not mind.....
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Hi Shawn.  Hope my groin didn't interrupt your evening too bad...LOL


I've only been here a short time and I'm already quite used to talking about both your and Bill's groins.  It just seems to be a hazard of being a denizen of the land of Ghoul.

Even so, I do hope you can find out what is wrong and feel better soon.  I know from experience there's nothing more frustrating than not knowing when something is wrong!


Hi Shawn. I like the subject of Neal's groin right now...I am learning...


My groin is learning too.  Lots....
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mndymond - 2010-08-10 8:59 PM Ok.

So. From what I have read and subsequently somehow deduced from ^^ up there...

The move ^^ that the woman is doing in the picture is called a "hip impingement test". It is 90% sensitive for femoroacetabular impingement (FAI) syndrome--meaning that 90% of people who have a positive test result (pain) have been confirmed during surgery or via radiology to have FAI or in other words there is a 10% chance according to the literature that if you have the pain you won't have FAI. However, this is only unilateral pain. The fact that you have the same pain when you lift either leg suggests that it could be an acute soft tissue injury that is quite inflammed right now and could be the reason it is a positive test? Or you could have both a soft tissue injury and FAI at the same time...(I'm sorry...I really want to give you a "its just a soft tissue pain"...)

I don't know if they saw anything on the x-ray. But FAI requires abnormal contact of the femoral head with acetabulum (socket of the hip joint). So it can either be abnormal bone formation on the femoral head/neck (which is more common in men your age) or abnormal "lipping" of the acetabulum. I think it is a consideration for you...but it is typically an uncommon source of groin pain.

Did you land more on your right side in the crash?



Thanks.  Yes I landed on the right side.  Quite harcdore actually...hip...head....shoulder.  The wierd thing about impingement that I read up on was that it wasn't brought on by acute injury in most cases.  Weird.  Maybe I aggravated something already there.....


It is actually uncertain. Many cases are insidious. I'm looking for traumatic etiology...give me a sec
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