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 2011-01-05 9:59 PM in reply to: #3279489 |
Expert  1191    Sarasota, FL |  Subject: RE: Hokies 1st Timer's Group - FULLHow did that swim go Christi? cvochristi - 2011-01-05 11:47 AM "Another thing that made me feel a bit better about my 1st OWS swim was the race had race staffers in the water for help. People on surfboards and jetskis. If I needed them I knew that I could swim over to a person on a surfboard and hang on for a break. You might want to check this out with the race you are entering." This is great info....I never thought that there might be an option in the water to rest if I needed it. I'm betting the option will be available as the race I'm doing is a sprint, and geared towards the beginner. That's a bit of a relief. I also appreciate the info on your training, I will use that. My first swim will be tomorrow, and then I'll have a better idea of what my starting point is. To the Aussie....hello! Always wanted to go to Australia....some day after I retire and don't have to hurry back, I'm going. Glad to have you here. Christi |
| 2011-01-05 10:00 PM in reply to: #3280667 |
Expert 1191 Sarasota, FL | Subject: RE: Hokies 1st Timer's Group - FULL See you figured it out Greg. Loving the avatar!! gr8hope - 2011-01-05 6:40 PM Need Help. OK, I figured out where to input pic, but it has to be less than 50kb. How do I reduce a pic from 390k to 50k? |
| 2011-01-05 10:02 PM in reply to: #3280917 |
Expert 1191 Sarasota, FL | Subject: RE: Hokies 1st Timer's Group - FULL Goods new about your foot. Looking forward to hearing about your race this weekend. melkat - 2011-01-05 9:08 PM gr8hope - 2011-01-05 6:40 PM Need Help. OK, I figured out where to input pic, but it has to be less than 50kb. How do I reduce a pic from 390k to 50k? You can use the Microsoft Picture Manager too. Double-click on the picture and it should take you to Picture manager where you can resize. I think my foot's finally better, still a little wonky, but much better. And much less hacking and coughing. I can breathe! Unfortunately, I think it's too late to help with the half marathon this weekend  Definitely not shooting for a PR on this one!When's everyone 'officially' starting their training? |
| 2011-01-05 10:08 PM in reply to: #3281013 |
Expert 1191 Sarasota, FL | Subject: RE: Hokies 1st Timer's Group - FULL I know that feeling. gr8hope - 2011-01-05 9:48 PM Swim Class - What can I say? I have a long, loonng, looonnng, loooonnng way to go. |
| 2011-01-05 11:10 PM in reply to: #3281101 |
Expert 1191 Sarasota, FL | Subject: RE: Hokies 1st Timer's Group - FULL Barabara, My guess is that the HRM is telling you that you spent 19:41 minutes of your workout with a HR between 109 and 146. Is that a bad thing? Well it depends on a lot of things including: 1) What your trying to achieve in your workout (build aerobic endurance, burn fat, work on you tempo paces, etc..). 2) What "your" specific zones are: My HR zones and your HR zones are likely very different. For example, I don't think I have ever had a HR of 168 on the bike. That might be normal for you. Genetics play a big role here. 3) What discipline you are doing. In your case you were on the bike. My HR zones for the bike and the run are different. For example, a 140bpm HR on the run is a Steady paced run for me but I would be working really Hard on the bike at 140bpm. The spread of 109 - 146 seems really, really large to be grouped together in one "zone". For me on the bike 109 is my EASY Zone, 146 would be a HARD Zone and the quads would be burning. Between those I have a STEADY zone and a MOD-HARD zone. Don't know that this helps any. If your interested I'll put together something on HR based training. barbsduck - 2011-01-05 10:30 PM QUESTION: I did a 50 minute bike workout today wearing my HRM, and I have a question about the "zone." My HRM says my "zone" is 109 - 146, and I was often ABOVE that, in the 150s. The stats were: AVG HR of 144; MAX HR 168; In Zone 19:41 minutes. So, what is the "zone" and is it really a bad thing if I’m above it?
ATLVEG – I DEFINITELY need to get new sneakers, because my tread is worn out on the ones I’m currently using. I like the way saucony fits me, but I’d like to have a professional fit my foot and make sure it’s the best for me. So time for a shopping trip! JAMESJONG – I really felt fine after my first wogging. The five minute (fast) walk really let me get my breath back between jogs. The first two minute jog felt endless - by the last one, it felt doable. It was much easier than trying to do one long continuous run - which I definitely couldn’t do yet! MELKAT - I started training on Monday - my race is May 15th |
| 2011-01-05 11:35 PM in reply to: #3281107 |
Expert 1191 Sarasota, FL | Subject: RE: Hokies 1st Timer's Group - FULL Wow, I'm a bike safety nut - if there is no safe place to ride a road bike I wouldn't ride a road bike. So it sounds like if you get a road bike your not going able to use it for any long rides (useless you purchase a trainer with it). I guess you could set up the trainer outside by the lake  .Nothing wrong with doing a TRI on a mountain bike. I did. It worked just fine. In fact a number of TRI races have a "fat tire" category. If your looking for speed there is no doubt that you will be able to go faster on a road bike. Road/TT bikes can get really, really expensive ($5-$10K) but you can also pick a new one up for $500-$600. gr8hope - 2011-01-05 10:31 PM Bike question -- So here's the conundrum. I ultimately want a road bike for the tri. It is more versatile and will allow me to do what I want. However, I am at my lake place Friday through Monday. It is where I would do most of my long rides and there are no safe places to ride. The roads are narrow with no shoulders and most people on lake roads have been drinking sometime within the past 8 hours. I could get the most use out of a mountain bike at the lake and I could get some great workouts. I'm just in the thought process and would appreciate input/ideas. I don't like buying items to get buy. I will probably spend some real dollars on this purchase. Thanks all. |
| 2011-01-06 12:02 AM in reply to: #3280917 |
Expert 1191 Sarasota, FL | Subject: RE: Hokies 1st Timer's Group - FULL Started an 7 week HIM Base Plan (build aerobic endurance) on Monday of this week. Will transition to a 12 week HIM Specific Prep Plan (more tempo work) that will take me right up my 1st race at the FIT. melkat - 2011-01-05 9:08 PM gr8hope - 2011-01-05 6:40 PM Need Help. OK, I figured out where to input pic, but it has to be less than 50kb. How do I reduce a pic from 390k to 50k? When's everyone 'officially' starting their training? |
| 2011-01-06 3:29 AM in reply to: #3280917 |
| Member 46 | Subject: RE: Hokies 1st Timer's Group - FULL Mel, I started training in December I think on the 1st or 2nd I race in feb (on the 13th).J melkat - 2011-01-04 9:08 PM gr8hope - 2011-01-05 6:40 PM Need Help. OK, I figured out where to input pic, but it has to be less than 50kb. How do I reduce a pic from 390k to 50k? You can use the Microsoft Picture Manager too. Double-click on the picture and it should take you to Picture manager where you can resize. I think my foot's finally better, still a little wonky, but much better. And much less hacking and coughing. I can breathe! Unfortunately, I think it's too late to help with the half marathon this weekend Definitely not shooting for a PR on this one!When's everyone 'officially' starting their training? |
| 2011-01-06 10:02 AM in reply to: #3281157 |
Veteran 103 Albany Oregon | Subject: RE: Hokies 1st Timer's Group - FULL junthank - 2011-01-05 7:59 PM How did that swim go Christi? Sitting here stalling on going to the pool.....Many excuses are forming. But...now that you know, I'll still go.  |
| 2011-01-06 10:08 AM in reply to: #3281252 |
Veteran 103 Albany Oregon | Subject: RE: Hokies 1st Timer's Group - FULL junthank - 2011-01-05 9:35 PM Wow, I'm a bike safety nut - if there is no safe place to ride a road bike I wouldn't ride a road bike. So it sounds like if you get a road bike your not going able to use it for any long rides (useless you purchase a trainer with it). I guess you could set up the trainer outside by the lake .Nothing wrong with doing a TRI on a mountain bike. I did. It worked just fine. In fact a number of TRI races have a "fat tire" category. If your looking for speed there is no doubt that you will be able to go faster on a road bike. Road/TT bikes can get really, really expensive ($5-$10K) but you can also pick a new one up for $500-$600. gr8hope - 2011-01-05 10:31 PM Bike question -- So here's the conundrum. I ultimately want a road bike for the tri. It is more versatile and will allow me to do what I want. However, I am at my lake place Friday through Monday. It is where I would do most of my long rides and there are no safe places to ride. The roads are narrow with no shoulders and most people on lake roads have been drinking sometime within the past 8 hours. I could get the most use out of a mountain bike at the lake and I could get some great workouts. I'm just in the thought process and would appreciate input/ideas. I don't like buying items to get buy. I will probably spend some real dollars on this purchase. Thanks all. When my friend did her first race last year she found she could rent a road bike at a local bike shop for something like $30 a day. She did happen to find a good bike at a great price on Craigslist. Just a thought. It sounds like the mt bike would be better for where you are and where you will be riding. Then you could rent on race day. Also, while the bike will feel a little different, you will FLY compared to the mt bike.  . Maybe rent the road bike a couple times, just to get the feel of it. Hope that helps, Christi |
| 2011-01-06 4:18 PM in reply to: #3256830 |
| Member 39 Portland, OR | Subject: RE: Hokies 1st Timer's Group - FULL I'm kind of the opposite of a lot of people in here. Love to swim (not tremendously fast, but can swim for a long time very easily) and do not really like running all that much (although I find it much better since I'm not carrying 40 extra lbs around). I was 210 lbs October 1 and now just broke the 170 mark. But anyway in regards to wogging...To get me started I used an 8 week program that I found online from Runners World Magazine. Here is the link if anyone is interested. It was very easy to start and finish for me. http://www.runnersworld.com/article/0,7120,s6-238-261--9397-2-1X5-3,00.html |
| 2011-01-06 5:12 PM in reply to: #3281920 |
Expert 1191 Sarasota, FL | Subject: RE: Hokies 1st Timer's Group - FULL Hey Christi, Didn't you say (I'm an excellent procrastinator) and I just need some help and accountability. So I couldn't resist asking!!! Hope you had a good swim. cvochristi - 2011-01-06 11:02 AM junthank - 2011-01-05 7:59 PM How did that swim go Christi? Sitting here stalling on going to the pool.....Many excuses are forming. But...now that you know, I'll still go. |
| 2011-01-06 5:14 PM in reply to: #3256830 |
Expert 1191 Sarasota, FL | Subject: RE: Hokies 1st Timer's Group - FULL Gang, |
| 2011-01-06 5:16 PM in reply to: #3256830 |
Expert 1191 Sarasota, FL | Subject: RE: Hokies 1st Timer's Group - FULL Much better swim for me today. There is hope after all!! |
| 2011-01-06 5:22 PM in reply to: #3283046 |
Expert 1191 Sarasota, FL | Subject: RE: Hokies 1st Timer's Group - FULL Thanks Rob. I noticed in the plan there was a run everyday. Did you mix in your masters swimming with this as well? Also, 210 to 170 is a huge weightloss. Congrat's. tkdrq - 2011-01-06 5:18 PM I'm kind of the opposite of a lot of people in here. Love to swim (not tremendously fast, but can swim for a long time very easily) and do not really like running all that much (although I find it much better since I'm not carrying 40 extra lbs around). I was 210 lbs October 1 and now just broke the 170 mark. But anyway in regards to wogging...To get me started I used an 8 week program that I found online from Runners World Magazine. Here is the link if anyone is interested. It was very easy to start and finish for me. http://www.runnersworld.com/article/0,7120,s6-238-261--9397-2-1X5-3,00.html Edited by junthank 2011-01-06 5:23 PM |
| 2011-01-06 7:51 PM in reply to: #3281101 |
Member 34 | Subject: RE: Hokies 1st Timer's Group - FULL barbsduck - 2011-01-05 10:30 PM QUESTION: I did a 50 minute bike workout today wearing my HRM, and I have a question about the "zone." My HRM says my "zone" is 109 - 146, and I was often ABOVE that, in the 150s. The stats were: AVG HR of 144; MAX HR 168; In Zone 19:41 minutes. So, what is the "zone" and is it really a bad thing if I’m above it?
ATLVEG – I DEFINITELY need to get new sneakers, because my tread is worn out on the ones I’m currently using. I like the way saucony fits me, but I’d like to have a professional fit my foot and make sure it’s the best for me. So time for a shopping trip! The best part about being a runner is that it involves NEW SHOES!! Or maybe that's just a girl thing  I wear Sauconys...just got two purple pairs from runningwarehouse.com! I think I tried just about every brand of shoe before I settled there.I never did well with the heart rate monitor training. Same problem....heart rate was always over the recommended range. The theory was to run slower, stay in the range, then you could run farther. Unfortunately, I'm already so slow that slower is just about standing still! And the HRM chafed. There's a book for running heart-rate training by Maffetone, but not sure how that translates to the bike. James...looks like your race is up first. How's the training going? |
| 2011-01-06 8:24 PM in reply to: #3256830 |
Expert 1191 Sarasota, FL | Subject: RE: Hokies 1st Timer's Group - FULL Forgot to include this video with the swimming tips message yesterday. The person responsible for this website (TJ Fry) posts on BT frequently: |
| 2011-01-06 8:26 PM in reply to: #3256830 |
New user 11 | Subject: RE: Hokies 1st Timer's Group - FULL Evening all, Thanks for all the information about HRM zones. I guess I have two aims - building endurance and fat burning. So, if I stay near the top of the HR zone, I should accomplish both over time, shouldn't I? I used the treadmill for the first time today -- and am somewhat confused. My walking pace was at 3.5 pace, with a 2.0 incline. My jogging was at 4.5 pace, with the same incline. Does a pace of 4.5 equate to 4.5 miles per hour, or a 13.33 minute mile? That's pretty slow, isn't it? Barb |
| 2011-01-07 4:53 AM in reply to: #3283177 |
| Member 39 Portland, OR | Subject: RE: Hokies 1st Timer's Group - FULL The program actually has days of just walking. I always swim a couple of days a week regardless. Much easier on the joints, especially when I was heavier. The run program I missed a couple of days here and there and just used it as a guideline. It got me to where running 30 - 40 minutes is very comfortable. I'll now have to start working on increasing speed, distance, and duration. I am planning on losing 10 more pounds and then just focus on a balanced and healthy diet. Currently following the Take Shape For Life Program (Medifast). I have a naturophathic (SP?) doctor who I am going to be meeting with to transition out of this diet. |
| 2011-01-07 5:02 AM in reply to: #3283476 |
Expert 1191 Sarasota, FL | Subject: RE: Hokies 1st Timer's Group - FULL Hey Barbara, On the treadmills I use 4.5 does equate to 4.5mph. I don't trust what trendmills say because they are often not calibrated right or there could be belt stretch. I know 4.5 on one treadmill can feel different than 4.5 on another treadmill. I think 4.5mph = 13:20 pace but my math could be off. Is that "pretty slow"? One of the most valuable lessons I was taught by my 1st mentor was "there will always be somebody faster, we can't win that game. If you remain consistent and positive you will improve relative to yourself - there’s value in seeing the return from our own efforts. So it’s best to evaluate how you do relative to yourself”. I'm a competitive guy so that comment help me a out a lot. Now I don't worry about how fast I'm going relative to other people. I focus on looking at my improvements over time. barbsduck - 2011-01-06 9:26 PM Evening all, I used the treadmill for the first time today -- and am somewhat confused. My walking pace was at 3.5 pace, with a 2.0 incline. My jogging was at 4.5 pace, with the same incline. Does a pace of 4.5 equate to 4.5 miles per hour, or a 13.33 minute mile? That's pretty slow, isn't it? Barb Edited by junthank 2011-01-07 5:27 AM |
| 2011-01-07 5:26 AM in reply to: #3283476 |
Expert 1191 Sarasota, FL | Subject: RE: Hokies 1st Timer's Group - FULL Barb, I not quite sure what you mean by "top of the HR zone". Have you set up your zones yet? If so, how did you do it? For example, I have many different HR zones. On the run my zones are: 102 - 131 Recovery 132 - 140 Aerobic 141 - 147 Tempo 148 - 153 Sub Threshold 154 - 157 Super Threshold 158 - 162 Aerobic Capacity > 163 - Anaerobic Capacity I spend most of my time training in my Aerobic and Tempo zones. Those are the zones where I'm building my aerobic endurance and the body is burning fat for energy. At the top of my zones (when I'm red lining it) I don't burn fat - I burn glycogen (bodies form of stored carbohydrate). I'll be more than happy to help you set up your HR zones. There are many ways to do it. barbsduck - 2011-01-06 9:26 PM Evening all, So, if I stay near the top of the HR zone, I should accomplish both over time, shouldn't I? Barb Edited by junthank 2011-01-07 5:32 AM |
| 2011-01-07 5:38 AM in reply to: #3256830 |
Expert 1191 Sarasota, FL | Subject: RE: Hokies 1st Timer's Group - FULL Hey Gang, I'm going to have limited access to the site this weekend. My oldest are flying into town to help celebrate a big birthday for my mother-in-law. So if I don't get to your questions fast over the next 3 days it's not because I have dissappeared. I think were off to a great start. Keep the dialogue and inspires rolling and have a great weekend of training. |
| 2011-01-07 6:50 AM in reply to: #3283829 |
Regular 77 Atlanta | Subject: RE: Hokies 1st Timer's Group - FULL junthank - 2011-01-07 6:02 AM Hey Barbara, Is that "pretty slow"? One of the most valuable lessons I was taught by my 1st mentor was "there will always be somebody faster, we can't win that game. If you remain consistent and positive you will improve relative to yourself - there’s value in seeing the return from our own efforts. So it’s best to evaluate how you do relative to yourself”. ^This. Speed is relative to the runner. And for the runner, it improves over time with consist training. For beginners I recommend running easy, and work on gradually increasing the distance of either your run intervals, or your run distance if you are not doing a run/walk program. Just increasing distance (slowly!) will result in huge gains in speed. You should not feel winded while running, leave that for races. |
| 2011-01-07 6:51 AM in reply to: #3283847 |
Regular 77 Atlanta | Subject: RE: Hokies 1st Timer's Group - FULL junthank - 2011-01-07 6:38 AM Hey Gang, I'm going to have limited access to the site this weekend. My oldest are flying into town to help celebrate a big birthday for my mother-in-law. So if I don't get to your questions fast over the next 3 days it's not because I have dissappeared. I think were off to a great start. Keep the dialogue and inspires rolling and have a great weekend of training. Have a great weekend, Jeff! I saw your question about ITBS but the answer is quite involved so will have to wait until I have some more free time this weekend. |
| 2011-01-07 6:56 AM in reply to: #3283926 |
Expert 1191 Sarasota, FL | Subject: RE: Hokies 1st Timer's Group - FULL Amen. atlveg - 2011-01-07 7:50 AM junthank - 2011-01-07 6:02 AM Hey Barbara, [/ QUOTE] ^This. Speed is relative to the runner. And for the runner, it improves over time with consist training. For beginners I recommend running easy, and work on gradually increasing the distance of either your run intervals, or your run distance if you are not doing a run/walk program. Just increasing distance (slowly!) will result in huge gains in speed. You should not feel winded while running, leave that for races. |
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