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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() wbayek - 2012-01-09 11:46 AM . I agree that it doesn't matter much! Although it is easier IMO, to bike after swimming even with a few hours of rest! When I run after swim my legs are always jello! But I am no where close to a master swimmer! For some reason everyone keeps telling me to leave the divers belt off! I have to put a lot of effort to go a minimal distance in water!cycletherapy - 2012-01-09 11:17 AM I have a training question. In all the plans I see, the 2-a-days are swim and bike. With my schedule, it works out better for me if I swim and run on the same days. Is there a reason that swim/bike are normally together? Is there any reason that I shouldn't run right after swimming? I don't think it should matter. Plans are made for the general populace to fit the most people, so tailor it to fit your needs. Now if a coach came up with the plan, I would have a different answer. One caveat would be to not schedule two key workouts on the same day if at all possible. I think the main reason to keep the running alone would be that running is by FAR the hardest sport on your body, so recovery from running is an important part of tri training. For me, once my tri training starts for real (after the run focus winter), I bike and run at least two and often three times a week the same day and it hasn't been a problem so far. Edited by mambos 2012-01-09 11:54 AM |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Jeff: that is one busy race schedule! Are you going to be able to fit some training in around those races ![]() |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() cycletherapy - 2012-01-09 11:17 AM I have a training question. In all the plans I see, the 2-a-days are swim and bike. With my schedule, it works out better for me if I swim and run on the same days. Is there a reason that swim/bike are normally together? Is there any reason that I shouldn't run right after swimming?
I actually have no idea why bike and swim are normally together. I have seen the same thing. For the typical athlete, we are all time crunched in some way and don't have seven hours a day to workout, except for Jeff, because he's superman. I like doing my swim/runs on the same day because my runs during the week are never longer than 45 minutes and then my pool sessions are never longer than an hour or 1:15. On the other hand, my bike workouts are always an hour. So if I swim and bike on the same day, I would have to workout for over two hours, but if I run/swim, it's only 1:15 - 1:30. That way I can actually eat dinner and get to bed at a decent hour. I also want to add that swimming helps me flush out my legs after running. If I run first and jump in the pool to do my swim, it gives me a long cool down to shake out my legs and then I'm able to stretch and not feel my run the next day as if I just ran, ate, and went to bed. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() mambos - 2012-01-09 11:43 AM Jeff: that is one busy race schedule! Are you going to be able to fit some training in around those races ![]() I won't be able to do them all for sure. For instance on the weekend of May 20th, there are 4 races I was considering. I could theoretically do 2 of them, but don't know if I'd want to. Also, at some point during the summer I will want key weekend workouts and am bound to feel emotionally drained. So the total race count should be similar to 2011. Those are just the races I'm considering. And you can bet that I'll train right on through most of them. For a Saturday race, only a couple would have me change my Friday training routine (which would be Master's swim, 5 mile run in the AM). That's a fairly decent and easy pre-race workout anyway as long as I don't bust a lung on the swim and just trot the run at 130bpm. The 2012 Tennessee Bike Racing calendar isn't out yet, but I was also considering the state TT championships because TTs are fun and it's really what triathlon is all about. Last year I chose a triathlon over the TT and feel conflicted about that. Just for the record, I've had many 2-race weekends and even a 3-race weekend before (which was disastrous). 2 races I can usually do. These are usually a tri on Saturday and a bike race on Sunday. If they were 2 triathlons it would be more challenging physically for me. (seems like almost nothing leaves me feeling bad for cycling).
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() bswcpa - 2012-01-09 9:48 AM Through adoption we are blessed with a son who's now 16 and a daughter who's 15. They're both bi-racial so we have a colorful family. We also have two Great Danes who give us nothing but love. This is VERY cool. We are also blessed with a "bi-racial family" but through marraige. It's great when the entire family gets together. CURRENT TRAINING: Am I supposed to be doing something? I'm lacking motivation and that's why I want to join in here so you can give me a kick. This is EXACTLY what you'll get here! but in all seriousness, you know what gets me back at it? Signing up for a race!! did an aqua mile and was third to the last out of the water. Yes, I'm a slow swimmer and need help. If this is really a goal of yours, we can help you. NO PROBLEMO! I gain 5-7 lbs each winter because I love to bake and the stress of tax season has me eating everything. By June I'm back. I can live with that cycle. Same here. I'm lucky to have an abnormally large frame, so it doesn't show that much, but extra weight to carry is extra weight to carry, right? My goal (that I just decided on while typing this) is to loose 5 lbs by valentine's day. You with me? WHAT WILL MAKE ME A GOOD MENTEE: I can give you free tax advice.....does that count? YES, absolutely! |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Hey guys, I hope you all are still accepting members, otherwise I'll take my hastily written bio elsewhere! USERNAME: Guitarfrk75 Name: John STORY: This time last year (New Years) I was a smoker struggling to quit and rarely did any running unless I had to take the trash out as the truck was coming down the street. About July 4th, I started running to deal with the nicotine withdrawal. I in high school and middle school I was a strong swimmer, so I started going to the community pool and doing a little swimming. I entered a mini-sprint triathlon over Labor day weekend and got hooked. I've been a horse rider since I was knee-high to a grasshopper, so I was always pretty active. I was encouraged to keep up the running, biking, swimming schedule because they help my primary sport - Polocrosse. It's a full-contact horse sport like lacrosse played on a horse. It's a ton of fun and very exciting to watch. It takes up a good proportion of my summer, but I've found a schedule for next year that has my first half marathon and my first an Oly level triathlon. I got a kick of motivation this week after finally getting new running shoes and a new bike. In my old shoes I couldn't run more than about 3 miles without a mild injury as they were about five years old and pretty beaten up, and I'd been borrowing my Dad's bike or using the stationary bit in the community gym.
Job: I work for Marriott International as a revenue manager. CURRENT TRAINING: Half marathon training plan has me running 3 days a week. Now I have my own bike I'm alternating in some long and slow rides to build my endurance back up.
5/6/2012 - Frederick Half Marathon, Frederick, MD (HM) 6/3/2012 - Asserteague Triathlon, Ocean City, MD (Sprint) 7/22/2012 - Hagerstown Spring Triathlon, Hagerstown, MD (Spring) OR 8/5/2012 - Fort Richie Triathlon, Fort Richie, MD (Sprint) 9/9/2012 - Nation's Triathlon, Washington, DC (Oly) Oct/Nov - Possibly a 10 miler or HM, although I've been thinking about giving Cyclocross a go!
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![]() DIRK - Thanks for letting me in. JEFF - good idea on the race wheels. When I get it narrowed down that's what I'll do. Reading your bio and your race schedule I only have one word for you - BEAST! Wow. MATT - thanks for your kind words. I don't have any extra guts doing the 60K - I just love being on trails and at my pace, it's more like a walk in the woods. ![]() WARREN - OK, you're right - I'll try to start using the logs. I took the first week of January off any training whatsoever but started back on Friday so I went in and entered the few days I've done. I think I'm overwhelmed by all the info they ask. If I just keep it simple I should be able to keep it up. ![]() JOANNE - I didn't see your bio but it seems you're the closest in age to me and I'm uber impressed with your drive to Kona. I can't conceive of your speeds. It looks like you're new to BT and you'll find a ton of helpful people on the site. |
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![]() JONATHAN - You make me laugh. You're absolutely right about signing up for a race gets one motivated. And I'm to the point of frustration with my swim - having dumped hundreds of dollars at coaches and videos, etc and not seeing any speed improvement. I'm into year 6 of trying to get faster and it just ain't happinin'. The funny thing is, once I force myself to get to the pool, I really, really enjoy swimming. I'm just sooooo slow. ![]() JOHN - Welcome! Great job on quitting smoking! You're a champion already! |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() bswcpa - 2012-01-09 2:56 PM JONATHAN - You make me laugh. You're absolutely right about signing up for a race gets one motivated. And I'm to the point of frustration with my swim - having dumped hundreds of dollars at coaches and videos, etc and not seeing any speed improvement. I'm into year 6 of trying to get faster and it just ain't happinin'. The funny thing is, once I force myself to get to the pool, I really, really enjoy swimming. I'm just sooooo slow. ![]() Brenda, I think we both know that EVERY DAY is a day for eating chocolate...but we gotta do it. So here's the deal...you don't have to tell me your weight. Let's say both of us weighs 10 lbs and we need to get to 5 by valentine's day. Update every week. Sound fair? This will keep me honest. Thanks for the congrats, I'm not elite, so don't let that name fool you. I just fill out an application like a champion. Hope it's fun though. Looks like a solid group of athletes. If anything, I might have a house to stay in for a destination TRI!! John, Welcome to the group. I second the congrats on quitting smoking. I love to see that! |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Brenda and Jonathan: Thanks for the congratulations on quitting smoking. I had no idea how much it messes you up until I tried to quit! More congratulations are due to those who never started in the first place! Jonathan - Congratulations on your upcoming wedding. My wife and I got married in May and it was one of the best weekends of my life! John |
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![]() | ![]() bswcpa - 2012-01-09 2:43 PM JOANNE - I didn't see your bio but it seems you're the closest in age to me and I'm uber impressed with your drive to Kona. I can't conceive of your speeds. It looks like you're new to BT and you'll find a ton of helpful people on the site. I'm racing at 50 this year, so there's a few of us "more experienced" folks. And Jeff looks like a teenage body builder, but he's no spring chicken either. 50 is the new 20. Don't sweat the fast/slow, if you're enjoying it and staying after it, that's enough. We'll help get you over that swimming hump. Is there any chance you could get a video of your swimming for our perusal? jgerbodegrant - 2012-01-09 3:23 PM So here's the deal...you don't have to tell me your weight. Let's say both of us weighs 10 lbs and we need to get to 5 by valentine's day. Update every week. Sound fair? This will keep me honest. Though I didn't list weight loss as a goal, I also add on a few extra pounds this time of year. My problem is I love to eat, and my wife loves to cook, and my mom loves me to be fat, so there you have it. And if you haven't noticed I am great at making excuses and I'm an elite rationalizationer. I'll join your weight loss fray, but I'm more like 15 pounds and need to get to 5 by Valentine's Day. |
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![]() | ![]() guitarfrk75 - 2012-01-09 2:40 PM Hey guys, I hope you all are still accepting members, otherwise I'll take my hastily written bio elsewhere! I got a kick of motivation this week after finally getting new running shoes and a new bike. WHAT WILL MAKE ME A GOOD MENTEE: Errr... does sarcasm and enjoyment of the Big Bang Theory count? Welcome and huge kudos on quitting smoking. I can't imagine how hard it is to kick a habit like that. I'd say training will be easy compared to that task. And yes, sarcasm goes a long way around here. How else do you think Jonathan gets called elite? I definitely can vouch for good/proper/new shoes making a huge difference in running. I have found that after a certain amount of miles in a shoe I can really start to feel my knees and joints on longer runs. I have no idea if it's placebo or not, but it works for me to move to a new pair. And horse lacrosse sounds nuts. I'd like to see it sometime. We have some polo around here in Hamilton/Wenham, but I've never heard of Polocrosse. |
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Member ![]() ![]() | ![]() Hey there - I would love to join this group. I just signed up for my first tri in June. I will complete a bio this evening when I get home. Thanks! Brady |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() wbayek - 2012-01-09 3:27 PM And horse lacrosse sounds nuts. I'd like to see it sometime. We have some polo around here in Hamilton/Wenham, but I've never heard of Polocrosse. I found this on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jhoNQ5SsX0 If I were to do polocrosse I would want a horse like this: http://www.nurturalhorse.com/images/Shire-Horse.jpg Edited by JeffY 2012-01-09 4:22 PM |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() JeffY - 2012-01-09 5:21 PM wbayek - 2012-01-09 3:27 PM And horse lacrosse sounds nuts. I'd like to see it sometime. We have some polo around here in Hamilton/Wenham, but I've never heard of Polocrosse. I found this on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jhoNQ5SsX0 If I were to do polocrosse I would want a horse like this: http://www.nurturalhorse.com/images/Shire-Horse.jpg You could try a horse like that, but you'd need a ladder to reach the ground to pick the ball up!! Mine is a LOT smaller. Good polocrosse horses are like sports cars - short wheelbase, good acceleration and nippy handling... That horse is more like... er... a semi...! The video is spot on though, that's exactly what I do! Brady - Welcome! |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Bailsworth - 2012-01-09 5:19 PM Hey there - I would love to join this group. I just signed up for my first tri in June. I will complete a bio this evening when I get home. Thanks! Brady Certainly Brady you are in. Get that bio up when you get the chance and get ready to roll. Also here's is who I have in the group.
Is that everyone? I hope I have not missed someone. If I have missed another person I apologize and add yourself to the list. Edited by DirkP 2012-01-09 7:00 PM |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Okay, we are getting close to the limits here so I'll go ahead and cover a couple of things.
Lastly, There are 5 of us that just got done with the last mentoring session that are hanging in here together. Many of us have been around athletics in general for sometime and some posses more knowledge than others. These particular people are myself, Jeff, Jonathon, Warren and Matt.
Finally all, welcome to the group and lets get started! I have said enough! (I told you I was wordy. LOL) |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() guitarfrk75 - 2012-01-09 2:40 PMPolocrosse. 1. It's a full-contact horse sport like lacrosse played on a horse. I got a kick of motivation this week after finally getting new running shoes and a new bike. 2. In my old shoes I couldn't run more than about 3 miles without a mild injury as they were about five years old and pretty beaten up, and I'd been borrowing my Dad's bike or using the stationary bit in the community gym.
5/6/2012 - Frederick Half Marathon, Frederick, MD (HM) 6/3/2012 - Asserteague Triathlon, Ocean City, MD (Sprint) 7/22/2012 - Hagerstown Spring Triathlon, Hagerstown, MD (Spring) OR 8/5/2012 - Fort Richie Triathlon, Fort Richie, MD (Sprint) 9/9/2012 - Nation's Triathlon, Washington, DC (Oly) Oct/Nov - Possibly a 10 miler or HM, although I've been thinking about giving Cyclocross a go! 4. WHAT WILL MAKE ME A GOOD MENTEE: Errr... does sarcasm and enjoyment of the Big Bang Theory count?
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Ok this has to be a shorter post. I'm about posted out for tonight. Jeff and John get the awards for most aggressive race schedule this year. I hope to complete about as many as John this year but I will have a pretty fair mix of running and triathlon this year, leaning a little more to tri's I hope. Jonathon and Brenda, I think I may jump into the 5lb weight loss thing by Feb 14. I could stand to lose about that. I was supposed to do that last year by June but I love ice cream. Especially Zesto when it opens in the spring. Do you agree Brenda? Brenda, we'll work on that swim. Have you done a 500 TT? If so what was your time? How many times do you want to swim each week? Jonathon, I am going to give that W Ink team a try next year if I can remember. |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I was a little hesitant to do it, but I went ahead and made my training log public. I have to admit I am quite intimidated by looking at some of yours. I don't know what all of the abbreviations mean! I seem to have made up my own lingo for my workouts that probably only I understand. I'll try to get more onboard with proper terminology. This year my goal is to compete in at least one race each month (some running, some tris). I plan to stay close to home for most of them. Here's what I am planning and/or considering: Jan: Snowflake 5K I hope to meet some of you at some of my races this season! |
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Dirk thanks for the review - I do consider the HM a basic distance and maintain fitness thru the year to that level. Good to hear you have used the OLY train plan - gives me a bit of confidence it will get me in the right place. Changes here at home may open up time in June/July to look at a Muncie OLY - but at this point I will set goal for Tri Indy. I walked the swim last year after the race (I did the sprint) and the swim looks daunting. I want to be ready, since swim is my weak link. thanks Paul |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() abergdol - 2012-01-09 9:21 PM I was a little hesitant to do it, but I went ahead and made my training log public. I have to admit I am quite intimidated by looking at some of yours. I don't know what all of the abbreviations mean! I seem to have made up my own lingo for my workouts that probably only I understand. I'll try to get more onboard with proper terminology. This year my goal is to compete in at least one race each month (some running, some tris). I plan to stay close to home for most of them. Here's what I am planning and/or considering: Jan: Snowflake 5K I hope to meet some of you at some of my races this season! Don't be intimidated by anyone's logs, you have no reason to be intimidated. Everyone starts somewhere and some of us started a little sooner than you did. You'll be right up there with everyone else soon enough. With your past dedication to fitness I already know your gonna be pretty good. I have not heard of the Tr Force tri. I may research it though. Is it here in town? Tri Indy is AWESOME! I will be there again this year because I love it and so does my wife. Do the oly if you do Indy. I hope to get closer to a podium there this season but it will be a very long shot. Another race to consider is the Warsaw Optomist. That is a really good race too. I plan on doing it again this year. It is a national qualifier and I hope to make it this year. Brenda, are you doing the Optomist again? I would imagine that many of us can meet since there are several of us from Indiana. |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I have not heard of the Tr Force tri. I may research it though. Is it here in town? It's at Spiece (indoors). I think it used to be called something else. Another race to consider is the Warsaw Optomist. That is a really good race too. I plan on doing it again this year. It is a national qualifier and I hope to make it this year. Brenda, are you doing the Optomist again? I forgot about the Optimist. I'll look into it! |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() My evening advice before I go pass out: DO NO TAKE 3 MONTHS OFF FROM SWIMMING. I'm also hungry as hell. This fasting for medical exams bologna is for the birds. Goodnight. |
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