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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Dirk, did your GPS get a distance on the run course? I traced out, as best I could from memory, the run course. It's here: http://www.mapmyrun.com/routes/view/263969167 It reads long too. Is this MapMyRun being off? |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by strikyr Originally posted by DirkP Originally posted by bswcpa Good Morning Gang! I'm BAAAACCCCKKKK!! My July totals are laughable. Run - 40 miles in one day. Yep, that's it. And it wasn't really a workout. I'd paced my friend in the last 40 miles of her 100 mile race and that's more of a slow jog/walk. I only sweated because of the humidity. So now it's August and I'm getting a little mojo back. Looking toward IMWI and seeing TONY race and working with JOANNE at the aid station will surely get me pumped. Without a doubt every single one of you did better in July than me. Show me your numbers so I can wallow in shame.
It's great to see you're back with us again. I would love to be going to IMWI with you guys to ensure my spot next year but time and other things wouldn't have allowed it anyway. Dirk I soooo want to sign up for IMWI next year and do it with you guys but I can tell you my wife will either divorce me or KILL me if I do. Seriously the thought has entered my mind more than once. However IM is so time consuming and it is sort of a selfish undertaking that I'll be spending the next year trying to make it up to my family for them supporting me this year. It's been a big sacrifice on their part already but man I would love to be there with you guys next year.. Do it !!!! ![]() |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by JeffY Here is my race report: http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/forums/thread-view.asp... I swam in a sleeveless wetsuit for the first time. I know you aren't supposed to do anything new on race day...but I think it should really be: "don't do anything new at an A race". This wetsuit was fine in every way except one. The seems below the armpits chaffed me. I'm still hurting from that. They can't heal or scab over because I run...even just walking around and having my arms moving grabs at it. ![]() Ouch!!! |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Good luck to everyone racing! We are going rock climbing and camping this weekend with all the kids. Can't wait. I am thinking I may try to get an OWS in too i have got to get back to swimming., I still haven't swam since the race. ![]() |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by Jo63 Good luck to everyone racing! We are going rock climbing and camping this weekend with all the kids. Can't wait. I am thinking I may try to get an OWS in too i have got to get back to swimming., I still haven't swam since the race. ![]() JoAnne have fun and enjoy the weekend camping. No IM for me next year, my wife would kill me if I signed up IMWI 2014. I'll just have to settle for supporting you guys during your journey next year. |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by JeffY For those of you that aren't on the Swim Smooth mailing list I want to link to their most recent blog post. It's got interesting information (at least interesting to me). http://www.feelforthewater.com/2013/08/swim-smooth-analysis-2013-ba... That's an interesting read. I'm not sure I could effectively increase my stroke rate and shorten the stroke in rougher water without practicing it consistently first. I think I'd just get out of breath from trying to increase rate but not shorten the stroke. Having learned freestyle through the Total Immersion method I'm pretty clearly an Overglider per the SwimSmooth descriptions. Since I admitedly do not train enough to make significant gains over my current pace though I really can't complain about where I'm at in speed. Edited by JonnyVero 2013-08-09 1:28 PM |
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![]() Originally posted by Jo63 Good luck to everyone racing! We are going rock climbing and camping this weekend with all the kids. Can't wait. I am thinking I may try to get an OWS in too i have got to get back to swimming., I still haven't swam since the race. ![]() Oh that sounds really fun! Hope you have a great time! |
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![]() Ok, my heel is feeling much better, no real pain when I walk around. Just that feeling that I know where it could hurt. I have stayed away from running all week, just water jogging and a couple of swims. So, I've decided to go for it on Sunday and sign up for the Olympic distance. I know my run is under trained but, well, I guess I'll just see what happens. I know I can run 6 miles, it will just be slow. My question is, I have not practiced any nutrition or anything all summer. I'm looking at around 3 hours probably for this distance. What do you all do for that length? I'm thinking gels and water since I got that bad headache after the 6 mile trail run last month and several of you suggested it might have been from mixing gatorade and gels. Maybe one before the swim, then sip on my gel flask on the bike and take one on the run? Does that sound reasonable? Anything else I should consider? |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by Jo63 Good luck to everyone racing! We are going rock climbing and camping this weekend with all the kids. Can't wait. I am thinking I may try to get an OWS in too i have got to get back to swimming., I still haven't swam since the race. ![]() That sounds like fun. Hope you have a great time. I should be getting some OWS time in this weekend too. We'll be at the lake for several hours tomorrow at our church picnic. My daughter Haley is giving me the honor of Baptizing her at the lake tomorrow during the picnic. I'm very excited about it and so proud of her. |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by trigal38 Ok, my heel is feeling much better, no real pain when I walk around. Just that feeling that I know where it could hurt. I have stayed away from running all week, just water jogging and a couple of swims. So, I've decided to go for it on Sunday and sign up for the Olympic distance. I know my run is under trained but, well, I guess I'll just see what happens. I know I can run 6 miles, it will just be slow. My question is, I have not practiced any nutrition or anything all summer. I'm looking at around 3 hours probably for this distance. What do you all do for that length? I'm thinking gels and water since I got that bad headache after the 6 mile trail run last month and several of you suggested it might have been from mixing gatorade and gels. Maybe one before the swim, then sip on my gel flask on the bike and take one on the run? Does that sound reasonable? Anything else I should consider? Dina good luck this weekend, have fun, be safe and have a great race. I typically go with sports drink on the bike and I'll have a pack of clif shot blocks ready if needed at the end of the bike before the run. I'll also carry a gel just in case but typically a good breakfast and the above would get me through the 3 hours. If the gels and sports drink mix is giving you problems then I'd stay away from that and do one or the other. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by JeffY Dirk, I drew out a mapped route of the swim course from Indy. http://www.mapmyrun.com/routes/view/263956261Does this look like I started and ended in the right places? mapmyrun says 1.2 miles. I thought that mapmyrun was pretty accurate, but I don't think the swim was that long...if so there wouldn't be some swim splits in the 19:xx range and my swim split, although it would be believable, wouldn't be so far down in the rankings. What's your thought? Interestingly enough my Garmin has swim mapping but no satellite mapping from either the bike or the run. I don't think that has ever happened but it was extremely irritating to not have any lap data for the bike of run!! You missed the swim start by a short margin. It started at the smaller pool area south of your start point. I was using this area as a swim WU as you were starting your race. Here's the link: http://www.mapmyrun.com/routes/view/264123463 And you made the run course slightly long as well. Had you made the turn one sidewalk west nearer the circular sidewalk you would have had it correct. Here's the link to the correct route: http://www.mapmyrun.com/routes/view/264134203 BTW, my Garmin map for the swim might show you my secret to having such a fast swim time. Of course I can niether confirm nor deny that I got in and out of the water a couple of times to run part of the course but that's the route my watch seems to have recorded...... (Capture.JPG) Attachments ---------------- Capture.JPG (159KB - 10 downloads) |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() If you are completely unpracticed at taking nutrition then I would be careful about taking gels. I would lean more toward taking in carbs in liquid form. Just 1 bottle of prepared 'nutrition' during the bike is probably all you should need. You can handle more calories during the race if you are going at a more relaxed pace. So if you are going to be putting in your best effort (doesn't matter how slow, it's the effort that matters) then you should lean more towards liquid, but if you are going to be taking it rather easy (say 15% below threshold?) then you can probably handle a couple of gels. Have fun! |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by DirkP Originally posted by JeffY Dirk, I drew out a mapped route of the swim course from Indy. http://www.mapmyrun.com/routes/view/263956261Does this look like I started and ended in the right places? mapmyrun says 1.2 miles. I thought that mapmyrun was pretty accurate, but I don't think the swim was that long...if so there wouldn't be some swim splits in the 19:xx range and my swim split, although it would be believable, wouldn't be so far down in the rankings. What's your thought? Interestingly enough my Garmin has swim mapping but no satellite mapping from either the bike or the run. I don't think that has ever happened but it was extremely irritating to not have any lap data for the bike of run!! You missed the swim start by a short margin. It started at the smaller pool area south of your start point. I was using this area as a swim WU as you were starting your race. Here's the link: http://www.mapmyrun.com/routes/view/264123463 And you made the run course slightly long as well. Had you made the turn one sidewalk west nearer the circular sidewalk you would have had it correct. Here's the link to the correct route: http://www.mapmyrun.com/routes/view/264134203 BTW, my Garmin map for the swim might show you my secret to having such a fast swim time. Of course I can niether confirm nor deny that I got in and out of the water a couple of times to run part of the course but that's the route my watch seems to have recorded...... I can't see your maps unless you accept my friend request. Or you can edit your routes and make them viewable to anyone who has the link. So you got out and ran huh? Great idea! |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by JonnyVero Originally posted by JeffY For those of you that aren't on the Swim Smooth mailing list I want to link to their most recent blog post. It's got interesting information (at least interesting to me). http://www.feelforthewater.com/2013/08/swim-smooth-analysis-2013-ba... That's an interesting read. I'm not sure I could effectively increase my stroke rate and shorten the stroke in rougher water without practicing it consistently first. I think I'd just get out of breath from trying to increase rate but not shorten the stroke. Having learned freestyle through the Total Immersion method I'm pretty clearly an Overglider per the SwimSmooth descriptions. Since I admitedly do not train enough to make significant gains over my current pace though I really can't complain about where I'm at in speed. This is an interesting read. I had gotten the email but had not read it yet. I am certain I am an over glider myself but I don't have any good video to substantiate my opinion. I have considered a tempo trainer before but there's always something I want to buy to help one aspect of my training and racing. Because of this desire I try to keep most of my expenditures lower to allow more races and only pick up the necessities. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by JonnyVero My daughter Haley is giving me the honor of Baptizing her at the lake tomorrow during the picnic. I'm very excited about it and so proud of her. What a tremendous honor!! DAD OF THE YEAR!! |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by JeffY I can't see your maps unless you accept my friend request. Or you can edit your routes and make them viewable to anyone who has the link. So you got out and ran huh? Great idea! I changed my settings to public so you should be able to see them now. I didn't see a friend request when I checked my account. Besides, I almost never use that anymore since I have a Garmin. I do plan courses occasionally through mapmyride so I can use the info from my phone for different routes that I have never used before. |
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![]() Hmm, now I'm going to have to think about this. My problem with liquid nutrition is I'm not great at getting my bottle in and out of the cage without sitting up and slowing down so I end up just not using it much. The gel flask just sits in my bike box thingy. I have an aero bottle but I usually only put water in that in case I hit a bump and it spills all over and makes everything sticky. The aero bottle with liquid nutrition would be simplest thing to do though and if I make a mess I'll just have to clean it up later! I'm not planning on hammering this race - just completing the distance because I'm burned out on sprints. |
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![]() Originally posted by DirkP Originally posted by JonnyVero My daughter Haley is giving me the honor of Baptizing her at the lake tomorrow during the picnic. I'm very excited about it and so proud of her. What a tremendous honor!! DAD OF THE YEAR!! x2 What a special moment for you both! |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by trigal38 Hmm, now I'm going to have to think about this. My problem with liquid nutrition is I'm not great at getting my bottle in and out of the cage without sitting up and slowing down so I end up just not using it much. The gel flask just sits in my bike box thingy. I have an aero bottle but I usually only put water in that in case I hit a bump and it spills all over and makes everything sticky. The aero bottle with liquid nutrition would be simplest thing to do though and if I make a mess I'll just have to clean it up later! I'm not planning on hammering this race - just completing the distance because I'm burned out on sprints. The aero bottle is the way to go. Sure it make a mess but you'll save energy for the run by staying aero as long as possible.........Provided your back feel alright. I say make the mess and clean it up later. Maybe you can talk your kids into washing your bike by making it a game. But I guess you should count those chickens just yet. |
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![]() Originally posted by DirkP Originally posted by trigal38 Hmm, now I'm going to have to think about this. My problem with liquid nutrition is I'm not great at getting my bottle in and out of the cage without sitting up and slowing down so I end up just not using it much. The gel flask just sits in my bike box thingy. I have an aero bottle but I usually only put water in that in case I hit a bump and it spills all over and makes everything sticky. The aero bottle with liquid nutrition would be simplest thing to do though and if I make a mess I'll just have to clean it up later! I'm not planning on hammering this race - just completing the distance because I'm burned out on sprints. The aero bottle is the way to go. Sure it make a mess but you'll save energy for the run by staying aero as long as possible.........Provided your back feel alright. I say make the mess and clean it up later. Maybe you can talk your kids into washing your bike by making it a game. But I guess you should count those chickens just yet. My back has been GREAT! I went to a different chiro a few weeks ago. She adjusted my hip and back and what do you know, no more pain. It didn't happen over night but slowly I've been feeling better and better. |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I got an epic long ride in today, 128 miles in 7:30 and I was able to follow that up with a run off the bike. I kept it to 2 miles. I was planning 3 but it was getting late and we were out longer than I thought we would be so I settled for that. It was a great ride we did 65 miles out to Montauk with no stopping. That took about 3:30 and to be honest I was glad to stop after being on the bike that long. We took alot of the scenic back roads were we could and it was just awesome. I was getting a litle tired as we headed in to Montauk. There was some climbing there so I was a little slower than if were totally flat but it was a great ride in. There was quite a bit of wind heading east into Montauk so that slowed us down to. I was using the JRA strategy and picked up the pace wherever I could. After refueling at the 7-Evelen we headed back west towards home. We took some of the back roads but not all of them and we had to stop like 3 times plus we got held up at several intersections trying to make left hand turns which took forever. The wind heading west was brutal so the 63 miles back was very challenging. We made 3 stops once was because Wynn flated in East Hampton, the second time we both had to stop to eat something and the last was for more fluid. I took in over 2000 calories on this ride and it may not have been enough. I think I did good up until about mile 125 at that point I could barely pedal anymore. I think I must have been going between 10 and 13 miles an hour. I could not even keep Wynn in sight anymore. Thankfully we had another long light to wait at so it gave me enough of a break to make it back to his house and a little faster speed. Going into his development is a big hill, it totally sucks going up it after any 100 mile ride and it sucked today but we made it up and back to Wynn's house. I then got in a 2.2 mile run. I think the run went well. I wasn't sure if I could actually do it but I figured I might feel 1000 times worse during the Ironman so let me see how I feel. Sure enough I was able to run just fine. I'm not saying I could run a marathon today but I could've run some more and would have been ok. As far as the ride goes I think it was a great endurance ride for me. I was able to cover 128 miles and be on the bike for 7:30 so at least I know I can handle being on the bike and riding it that long. I'm pretty happy with this workout. The only other thing I have to say is I better finish this freakin Ironman after putting in all this work! Edited by strikyr 2013-08-10 6:21 PM |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Wow Tony, that sounds like a tough ride. Kudos to you for putting in all those hours of preparation. |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Tony! What a ride! |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Whoo wheee, Tony!!! Freaking AWESOME ride!!!! |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Sounds like a great ride Tony! And it was probably a really good idea to get that quick, short run in too. That can help you mentally at IM to know that you've been able to run on very tired legs. When it comes to race day you'll have your nutrition dialed in and you'll be full recovered from all of the extreme volume you have been carrying for a while. You should feel much better. Something else I hope you have been practicing; IM pacing/effort on the bike. When you get done with your rides you should feel pretty much like being able to go out and mow the grass, etc. Sure you should have some tired legs but you shouldn't feel that your effort has killed your day and you need to sleep for an hour or so. I believe that is somewhat how I had a bad ride in Muncie a few weeks ago. I had been training for Rev3 in early September and was planning to work hard on the bike through Muncie and then pace down for Rev 3. When race day in Muncie came, and I knew I wasn't racing Rev3 again this year, I was completely unprepared mentally to ride slow enough to have a great race in all three disciplines. Just some thoughts. _______ As many of you know, I rode my first century yesterday. I actually rode 104.95 miles in 5:06:53 but the pic on FB shows a little shorter distance but I had forgotten to change my field from running to biking on my watch. I remembered to change it after riding a little over .6 miles, not that it's a big deal after riding that far but it did slow my pace a bit. My ride was over to Brenda's neck of the woods but I stopped short of her home, as she tells me, but I don't know exactly where she lives. The course was mostly east to west and back and the weather conditions were very cooperative with nearly no wind at all and cool temps. I also stopped short of getting the IMWI bike course elevation change by only 400 feet which seemed pretty good. I felt like I could have run off the bike and I would like to have done so but I am trying to be more cognoscente of my family right now. I also don't feel that I set myself up to run off the bike well either, but that wasn't part of the plan anyway. I took in just under 1000 calories over the ride and had no issues with energy levels. But I did want off the saddle after about 90 miles. I had only a couple of issues on the ride. I developed a intermittent squeak in the front wheel after about 45 miles that seemed to go away after I had stopped for a couple of minutes at the turn around point at 53 miles. It only came back after about 70 miles and was far more intermittent from then on. My second issue was when some clown decided to turn in front of me with his pick up truck and trailer. I was moving about 21 MPH at the time and had to swerve around the back of his trailer and into the oncoming lane. Ther was traffic coming at me but it was a in the distance and there was no issue with my maneuvering. Had there been something closer I could have taken the ditch and hopefully been able to handle the bike through the shallow ditch. Of course this would have landed me in the clowns yard and he would have heard more than he already heard as I rode by, which was only a few words in line with "idiot" and "moron." All in all it was a great ride and a great first century. I am considering another next weekend to build a little better fitness prior to the winter maintenance cycle. |
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