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2011-03-17 4:38 PM
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toughest part of the course is 60 miles or so starting north of 105

Can you explain?  What makes the section north of 105 that much harder?  Is that where the majority of the rollers are?

That was a quote from someone that had already ridden the course; but I do believe it was in reference to the majority of the rollers being in that section. I'll know more Saturday Laughing



2011-03-17 4:43 PM
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cjo03 - 2011-03-17 3:40 PM

Right on 2978 (BEFORE MILE 9)

• Bear right onto Egypt LANE (MILE 10)

• Straight thru 1488 onto Conroe Hu­ffsmith

• Left on Mahogany Way (Short)

• Right onto Honea Egypt (MILE 12)

• Bear right (mostly straight) onto Sendera Ranch Road/Fish Creek   new overpass connecting Fish Creek to FM 2854 is open.

 

 

this part isn't really that complicated and you dont get on mahogany way at all..

 

Right on 2978 (BEFORE MILE 9)

Straight thru 1488 (2978 turns into honea egypt turns into sendera ranch turns into fish creek... it is basically a straight away)

new overpass connecting Fish Creek to FM 2854 is open.. head west on 2854 (actually take a left just past the overpass, curve back towards 2854 and take a right turn on 2854)

The course map specifically calls out Conroe-Huffsmith and then a right on Honea Egypt. What I wrote above is the only way that can really make sense. The way you are describing is more straightforward, I agree. A local rider (on ST board) is the one that pointed out that the more complex route I describe is one that is often used to avoid traffic.

Maybe we'll get some corrections/clarification on the official map soon, then we won't have to guess! I'm sure Keith and company are working overtime to make this a great race, so I'm confident it will all get worked out.

2011-03-17 7:11 PM
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Anyone riding the course on Saturday? I'm thinking about driving down to ride the course but don't want to drive down if I'm going to ride the course solo..... if I wanted to ride solo I'd just ride around my house

I'm hoping to get a good 5-6 hour bike ride in followed by a 30-45 min run. My long rides typically hover around 18-18.5 mph solo, so I think with a group ride I can go faster if I need to. I know some people are riding the Lonestar course, but is anyone or group riding IMTX this Saturday? If you are and wouldn't mind me joining please let me know. You can reply to this thread or PM
2011-03-17 7:28 PM
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ballerandrew - 2011-03-17 7:11 PM Anyone riding the course on Saturday? I'm thinking about driving down to ride the course but don't want to drive down if I'm going to ride the course solo..... if I wanted to ride solo I'd just ride around my house I'm hoping to get a good 5-6 hour bike ride in followed by a 30-45 min run. My long rides typically hover around 18-18.5 mph solo, so I think with a group ride I can go faster if I need to. I know some people are riding the Lonestar course, but is anyone or group riding IMTX this Saturday? If you are and wouldn't mind me joining please let me know. You can reply to this thread or PM

I will be down there on Saturday with 2 others around 8:30am or so and will be doing 80+ miles and then heading over to the lake to do 1 loop of the run course if you want to join in ... PM me for details if you are interested

 



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2011-03-17 8:24 PM
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ballerandrew - 2011-03-17 7:11 PM Anyone riding the course on Saturday? I'm thinking about driving down to ride the course but don't want to drive down if I'm going to ride the course solo..... if I wanted to ride solo I'd just ride around my house I'm hoping to get a good 5-6 hour bike ride in followed by a 30-45 min run. My long rides typically hover around 18-18.5 mph solo, so I think with a group ride I can go faster if I need to. I know some people are riding the Lonestar course, but is anyone or group riding IMTX this Saturday? If you are and wouldn't mind me joining please let me know. You can reply to this thread or PM

I will be down there on Saturday with 2 others around 8:30am or so and will be doing 80+ miles and then heading over to the lake to do 1 loop of the run course if you want to join in ... PM me for details if you are interested

 

I would like to join in on the action if you guys don't mind the extra rider.  I need to check with "congress" since it will pretty much nail my entire day.   Drive time from Cypress, actual ride and run, then drive time back.  There will be some negotiating going on tonight to swing this.Wink

2011-03-17 8:36 PM
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bridgeland - 2011-03-17 8:24 PM
se7930 - 2011-03-17 7:28 PM

ballerandrew - 2011-03-17 7:11 PM Anyone riding the course on Saturday? I'm thinking about driving down to ride the course but don't want to drive down if I'm going to ride the course solo..... if I wanted to ride solo I'd just ride around my house I'm hoping to get a good 5-6 hour bike ride in followed by a 30-45 min run. My long rides typically hover around 18-18.5 mph solo, so I think with a group ride I can go faster if I need to. I know some people are riding the Lonestar course, but is anyone or group riding IMTX this Saturday? If you are and wouldn't mind me joining please let me know. You can reply to this thread or PM

I will be down there on Saturday with 2 others around 8:30am or so and will be doing 80+ miles and then heading over to the lake to do 1 loop of the run course if you want to join in ... PM me for details if you are interested

 

I would like to join in on the action if you guys don't mind the extra rider.  I need to check with "congress" since it will pretty much nail my entire day.   Drive time from Cypress, actual ride and run, then drive time back.  There will be some negotiating going on tonight to swing this.Wink

Sure, we are driving down from Dallas and plan on being in the area around 8:30am .. our starting point is going to be the Walmart at the corner of Woodlands parkway and 2978. PM me if you decide to join us and we can trade contct information for that morning.



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The course map specifically calls out Conroe-Huffsmith and then a right on Honea Egypt. What I wrote above is the only way that can really make sense. The way you are describing is more straightforward, I agree. A local rider (on ST board) is the one that pointed out that the more complex route I describe is one that is often used to avoid traffic.

Maybe we'll get some corrections/clarification on the official map soon, then we won't have to guess! I'm sure Keith and company are working overtime to make this a great race, so I'm confident it will all get worked out.

hmph.. you're correct.. i actually just assumed that the text was incorrect on the website since the map doesn't show it.. i live off of mahogany way and rarely see anyone taking that route to avoid traffic.. see hundreds of 'us' taking the straighter route.. i guess it could make sense to stop traffic on race day at the smaller intersection..

2011-03-18 12:24 AM
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I would totally pull out the "I served in the military" card.


Comet - 2011-03-17 9:00 AM

Should I contact the GM and tell her I'd like another confirmation for the one room she said she's trying to keep me in? Should I demand my second room back? I still have my inital confirmation and booking with CC.

I didn't raise a fuss and calmly expressed my unhappiness with the situation, but wondering if I should firm up? Moving to a hotel farther away is NOT an option for me.

2011-03-18 11:01 AM
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cjo03 - 2011-03-17 10:10 PM

The course map specifically calls out Conroe-Huffsmith and then a right on Honea Egypt. What I wrote above is the only way that can really make sense. The way you are describing is more straightforward, I agree. A local rider (on ST board) is the one that pointed out that the more complex route I describe is one that is often used to avoid traffic.

Maybe we'll get some corrections/clarification on the official map soon, then we won't have to guess! I'm sure Keith and company are working overtime to make this a great race, so I'm confident it will all get worked out.

hmph.. you're correct.. i actually just assumed that the text was incorrect on the website since the map doesn't show it.. i live off of mahogany way and rarely see anyone taking that route to avoid traffic.. see hundreds of 'us' taking the straighter route.. i guess it could make sense to stop traffic on race day at the smaller intersection..

Yeah, I'm not sure how it will actually end up, just trying to relate the directions to the map. Nice that you live right on (or near) the bike course, though! If you see a smallish guy on a blue cervelo tomorrow morning, wave hello...

2011-03-18 6:05 PM
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PLMsbr - 2011-03-17 4:38 PM
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toughest part of the course is 60 miles or so starting north of 105

Can you explain?  What makes the section north of 105 that much harder?  Is that where the majority of the rollers are?

That was a quote from someone that had already ridden the course; but I do believe it was in reference to the majority of the rollers being in that section. I'll know more Saturday Laughing

The tough part of that section is as you head south toward 105.  There are a few parts that are kind of climb then level off, climb then level off.  A little tougher than rollers IMO.  I think the tougher part is after you cross back over 105.  Slight ascending for a good portion & you have to really work to keep your pace.  Plus you will be much farther into the route at that point and wearing down.  JMO.

2011-03-18 9:02 PM
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I just signed up to volunteer for the 2011 race.  I am hoping that by volunteering I have a better shot of getting in for the 2012 race since i can sign up prior to "open registration" Does any one have an idea of how early I need to show up the day after to get inline for registration?  


2011-03-19 8:28 AM
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Not sure if I should classify this as pathetic or not, but after not being able to sleep from 1 to almost 4, I realized I was hungry. A bowl of cereal later and I slept like I was in a coma. IM training is really messing with me.

 

2011-03-19 11:51 PM
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A big congrats to Evillarroel who rocked Ironman 70.3 San Juan in 5:23:05 today! Great job!
2011-03-20 10:18 AM
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Right on 2978 (BEFORE MILE 9)

• Bear right onto Egypt LANE (MILE 10)

• Straight thru 1488 onto Conroe Hu­ffsmith

• Left on Mahogany Way (Short)

• Right onto Honea Egypt (MILE 12)

• Bear right (mostly straight) onto Sendera Ranch Road/Fish Creek   new overpass connecting Fish Creek to FM 2854 is open.

 

 

this part isn't really that complicated and you dont get on mahogany way at all..

 

Right on 2978 (BEFORE MILE 9)

Straight thru 1488 (2978 turns into honea egypt turns into sendera ranch turns into fish creek... it is basically a straight away)

new overpass connecting Fish Creek to FM 2854 is open.. head west on 2854 (actually take a left just past the overpass, curve back towards 2854 and take a right turn on 2854)

The course map specifically calls out Conroe-Huffsmith and then a right on Honea Egypt. What I wrote above is the only way that can really make sense. The way you are describing is more straightforward, I agree. A local rider (on ST board) is the one that pointed out that the more complex route I describe is one that is often used to avoid traffic.

Maybe we'll get some corrections/clarification on the official map soon, then we won't have to guess! I'm sure Keith and company are working overtime to make this a great race, so I'm confident it will all get worked out.

Expect to see a minor course change soon. From what I've heard this section got nixed.Also, saw the bulldozers out this morning on the west end of the waterway grading the land. Looks like they were making a ramp to get from east shore down to the waterway. If that's the case, and based on where the grading was being done, I would expect a minor course change on the run as well.
2011-03-20 2:39 PM
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Thanks TJ, I'm sure you'll keep us up to date...

In the meantime, I am back from my trip to Woodlands where we both drove (car) and rode (bike) the course. I posted an elevation profile and my full set of directions/tips in my blog HERE.

If anyone has any corrections and/or helpful information, PM me and I can add it to the blog posting.

Overall, I thought the bike course was fairly quick; with gentle rollers but nothing that will really make you mash your way up a big, long hill. This is based on a comparison to riding a road here near Austin called Ronald Reagan Blvd/Parmer, and also a couple of rides down to Bastrop. There are some sections that are a little dicey in terms of narrow roads with no shoulders and a fair amount of traffic, so be careful!

Come race day, I think the biggest factor is going be the wind. North winds are probably too much to hope for, but maybe we'll at least have some fairly light windsCool

Have fun training!

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2011-03-20 3:40 PM
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Care to give a little more detail on the comparison to Parmer?  That's where I'm doing my long rides because I thought the topography would be pretty close.  Did 80 miles out there yesterday.


2011-03-20 9:28 PM
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spuphal - 2011-03-19 11:51 PM A big congrats to Evillarroel who rocked Ironman 70.3 San Juan in 5:23:05 today! Great job!

 

Thanks a lot Shannon! I loved the race, the run course was tougher than nails but I made it. Race report is up if anybody cares. I highly recommend the race, especially for those in the thread that are doing IM TEXAS 2012, because it will be 9 or 10 weeks prior and the weather conditions are very similar.

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Rode most of the top part of the bike course on Saturday. Lots of traffic until you get north of 105 then it thins out a Little but you still need to be cautious. Very small shoulders or none at all on some of those roads. Seemed like we had a headwind going out and coming back but definitely worse coming back. However, it was nothing like the winds we have been seeing the last few weeks. Just pay attention to your HR and you should be fine.

We also went and checked out the lake and ran from the swim start around to the swim exit and then back to the swim start again (probably around 5-6 miles total). Its going to be a great event! If the run follows the path around the lake and stays off the streets then we are looking at 40% shade, maybe more which will definitely help.

2011-03-21 11:15 AM
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dgunthert - 2011-03-20 3:40 PM Care to give a little more detail on the comparison to Parmer?  That's where I'm doing my long rides because I thought the topography would be pretty close.  Did 80 miles out there yesterday.

A couple of those hills on Parmer between 1431 and Williams Drive have 250-300+ ft of elevation over a little less than a mile, which can work your legs pretty hard (not killer if you're used to it, but significant nonetheless). The IM TX course had mostly elevations of no more than 100 feet, and they seem to be more gradual. So, if you are used to riding the Parmer hills, I don't think you're going to have any problems with the IM TX course.

I'll try to attach my Ronald Reagan/Parmer elevation profile for comparison and see if that works...





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2011-03-21 12:51 PM
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Trying to decide what gearing I'm going to run for this.  I've got a 12-27 on there now, but I'm never in that bottom gear on Parmer unless spinning a cadence that's higher than natural for me.  I mostly max out in the 24.  I'm thinking about going with an 11-25.  That gives me a little wiggle room above the 24 and gives me a higher top end for the downhill/downwind sections where I'd otherwise spin out in the 12.
2011-03-21 1:06 PM
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I run a 50/34 and 12-25 and haven't needed a lower gear while "climbing". On the otherhand, I've used the 12 quite a bit on downhills and I've come close to spinning out but I don't think I ever have. The hills are no problem at all and are probably easy compared to Austin.


2011-03-21 1:17 PM
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I use a 53/39 and 11-23 cassette for training and haven't had any problems of to little/big gear.  For the race I plan on swapping to a 12-23 since I'll never be in the 11 for the IM. The hills aren't big enough to need it on downhill unless you have a compact crank perhaps...

2011-03-21 2:28 PM
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dgunthert - 2011-03-20 3:40 PM

Care to give a little more detail on the comparison to Parmer?  That's where I'm doing my long rides because I thought the topography would be pretty close.  Did 80 miles out there yesterday.


I've ridden both several times (lived in Houston and moved to Austin last summer) and think Parmer is definitely more than enough training wise. Nothing in Montgomery will be as long as any of the climbs on Parmer, certainly not the two on the way back that go on just a little bit too long. There may be a few in Montgomery that are steeper than what you find on Parmer, but those are very very short and probably still wouldn't require any standing out of the saddle, unless you wanted to stretch your legs out. The rolly section of Montgomery does give you a pretty constant dose though - the north section won't have tons of flat, just lots of little ups and downs.

Do know there is a false flat basically from 105 towards Richards heading north on the IM course - you are gradually climbing and mixing it in with some rollers through the forest. You'll get the benefit on the way back of a gradually declining terrain, but also will most likely have a headwind all the way home.
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2 Months to the date....I'm not ready!!
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IUScott99 - 2011-03-21 3:25 PM 2 Months to the date....I'm not ready!!


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