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2011-04-15 5:35 PM in reply to: #2944040 |
Champion 6973 marietta | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas TJ, you hearing anything about a 3 wave start? |
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2011-04-15 5:51 PM in reply to: #2944040 |
Veteran 266 Kingwood, TX | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas
You have to love that north wind! Did two loops from 105/149 today for a total of 110 miles (55x2). we were screaming down the south - although on tired legs did not seem quite as beneficial on the second loop! Winds stay the same for Saturday - get out there and enjoy it - we don't get that north wind enough.
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2011-04-15 6:48 PM in reply to: #3449471 |
Extreme Veteran 622 Dubai, United Arab Emirates | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas jls42 - 2011-04-15 5:51 PM
You have to love that north wind! Did two loops from 105/149 today for a total of 110 miles (55x2). we were screaming down the south - although on tired legs did not seem quite as beneficial on the second loop! Winds stay the same for Saturday - get out there and enjoy it - we don't get that north wind enough.
I'm going to be out there tomorrow morning and I'm really excited about the north winds. It's going to be much more fun that last weekend. |
2011-04-16 6:50 AM in reply to: #2944040 |
Master 1468 Montgomery, Tx | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas 37degrees right now at my house. Really? I do not want to gear up for a 6 hour ride and too much to do to wait. |
2011-04-16 10:36 AM in reply to: #3449860 |
Expert 2547 The Woodlands, TX | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas TriPatrick - 2011-04-16 6:50 AM 37degrees right now at my house. Really? I do not want to gear up for a 6 hour ride and too much to do to wait. I thought the exact same thing. I'm not riding today (was in the car) but was thinking that the one spring I wanted to be warm and we are still getting 30's in mid april. Heat adaptation gonna need to be a crash course! |
2011-04-16 10:38 AM in reply to: #3449446 |
Expert 2547 The Woodlands, TX | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas fattyfatfat - 2011-04-15 5:35 PM TJ, you hearing anything about a 3 wave start? huh? not a thing, but I will be checking that rumor out for sure. That would suck. |
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2011-04-16 11:05 AM in reply to: #2944040 |
Expert 2547 The Woodlands, TX | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas just read the wave rumor on ST among other worthless rants and this is what Keith had to say if you missed it: "For the poster that mentioned we'd be running on narrow paths. UNTRUE, except for the portion on Woodlands Parkway. We're going to use the path along that section, it's about 1/2 mile long. It's 8 feet wide. Woodlands Parkway is a high speed, busy road, and we just didn't want to put runners on that portion of the road, especially after dark. On Lake Woodlands, E. Panther Creek, etc we're running on the road, with a closed lane for you. You'll have a full lane PLUS shoulder on most of it. No mention of the waves though... |
2011-04-16 1:55 PM in reply to: #3449446 |
Member 18 Houston | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas fattyfatfat - 2011-04-15 5:35 PM TJ, you hearing anything about a 3 wave start?
I like the idea. Here's how I would do it. For safety reasons - especially considering this race has a very large proportion of first timers. Wave 1: Those with IM experience with a finish time under 11:00 hrs Wave 2: IM experience between 11 hours and 14 hours Wave 3: IM finishers above 14 hours and all first timers |
2011-04-16 2:57 PM in reply to: #3450225 |
Expert 2547 The Woodlands, TX | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas gcolv93 - 2011-04-16 1:55 PM fattyfatfat - 2011-04-15 5:35 PM TJ, you hearing anything about a 3 wave start?
I like the idea. Here's how I would do it. For safety reasons - especially considering this race has a very large proportion of first timers. Wave 1: Those with IM experience with a finish time under 11:00 hrs Wave 2: IM experience between 11 hours and 14 hours Wave 3: IM finishers above 14 hours and all first timers
the rumor is 1. pros 2. those going after kona 3. everyone else, including wetsuit users |
2011-04-16 3:11 PM in reply to: #3450284 |
Member 18 Houston | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas That could work too. I wonder how they determine who is actually "going after Kona"? Would they just take our word for it?Maybe anyone that was within a half hour from getting a Kona spot in the past?? There aren't that many previous Kona qualifiers in this one. I've got sources. |
2011-04-16 3:29 PM in reply to: #3450295 |
Expert 2547 The Woodlands, TX | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas gcolv93 - 2011-04-16 3:11 PM That could work too. I wonder how they determine who is actually "going after Kona"? Would they just take our word for it?Maybe anyone that was within a half hour from getting a Kona spot in the past?? There aren't that many previous Kona qualifiers in this one. I've got sources. Usually there's a box you check on the entry form that asks if you will accept a slot. Otherwise they could just make an announcement. You figure about 3% get a slot and 15-20% think they have a shot. Putting the first timers and less aggressive racers a wave behind would be more pleasant for those fretting the swim. It would also reduce drafting issues as there would be about 500 people in the Kona wave (using 20%). I still like the mass start though. looks much cooler. Edited by tjfry 2011-04-16 3:33 PM |
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2011-04-16 7:31 PM in reply to: #3450295 |
Extreme Veteran 1986 Cypress, TX | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas gcolv93 - 2011-04-16 3:11 PM That could work too. I wonder how they determine who is actually "going after Kona"? Would they just take our word for it?Maybe anyone that was within a half hour from getting a Kona spot in the past?? There aren't that many previous Kona qualifiers in this one. I've got sources. There will be the same amount of Kona qualifiers as any other IM. 75 to be exact. As TJ stated, you'll have to chose whether you're going to wear a wetsuit or not and this will determine whether or not you're eligible for awards and Kona slots. Edited by GMAN 19030 2011-04-16 7:34 PM |
2011-04-17 12:36 PM in reply to: #3450569 |
Member 18 Houston | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas I meant the number of previous Kona participants signed up to do the race. Not the number of spots available in the ironman races. I pulled the participant list and searched the results of my competition. There are only 6 previous Kona participants in my age group. At Florida last year there were 26. And if anyone is crazy enough to wear a wetsuit on that day they should have their head examined. Edited by gcolv93 2011-04-17 1:04 PM |
2011-04-17 2:01 PM in reply to: #2944040 |
2011-04-17 4:14 PM in reply to: #2944040 |
Elite 3088 Austin, TX | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas Very interesting that Keith went out of his way to debunk the running-on-narrow-paths rumor, talked specifically about the wetsuit temps and cutoffs, but was completely silent about the possibility of multiple waves. Doesn't surprise me, actually. Since the race was announced, I've been wondering about the logistics of 2000+ swimmers trying to fit down the waterway. Even with almost 2 miles covered before getting there, that's a lot of bodies. |
2011-04-17 4:37 PM in reply to: #2944040 |
Extreme Veteran 622 Dubai, United Arab Emirates | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas Yeah, I find that interesting also that he didn't mention waves. I read that as it is at least being considered. Not sure how I feel about that. On a side note, does the woodlands have an open container law? Im hoping my friends will be able to bring some beer to the market street / waterway area. |
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2011-04-17 4:46 PM in reply to: #2944040 |
Extreme Veteran 492 Frisco | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas Personally, I dont like the idea of wave swim starts .... One of the things that make it really cool is that mass start of 2000+ people churning up the water. As a first time IM participant, I was kinda looking forward to being a part of that mayhem. Thats just my .02 |
2011-04-17 4:51 PM in reply to: #2944040 |
Pro 4174 Keller, Texas | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas I just hope that if this is true, they work out the timing so it does not become like IMKY where the clock starts at 7am and stops at midnight so if you are one of the last people in the water you have less than the 16:59:59 to finish. Some of us need every second available |
2011-04-17 6:44 PM in reply to: #3451129 |
Master 1779 | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas gcolv93 - 2011-04-17 12:36 PM I meant the number of previous Kona participants signed up to do the race. Not the number of spots available in the ironman races. I pulled the participant list and searched the results of my competition. There are only 6 previous Kona participants in my age group. At Florida last year there were 26. And if anyone is crazy enough to wear a wetsuit on that day they should have their head examined. It is my understanding this the 2nd wave would be for people who THINK they may earn a Kona spot. If you aren't sure where you fall in the mix then look up the qualifying times in your age group from other IM races. Edited by Catwoman 2011-04-17 7:03 PM |
2011-04-17 9:17 PM in reply to: #2944040 |
Master 2238 Dallas | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas When I went to check out the swim start I was surprised by the similarities with the bridge on Mill Ave. in Ironman Arizona, it is about the same size waterway than the Rio Salado and it has the same overview from the top. Check this video out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Edh4GlZRHg It is absolutely feasible to stick 2,500 participants in there, I was in the middle of all that people you see in that video and it wasn't bad at all, at least after 200 yards... Edited by evillarroel 2011-04-17 9:27 PM |
2011-04-17 9:38 PM in reply to: #3451622 |
Expert 2547 The Woodlands, TX | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas evillarroel - 2011-04-17 9:17 PM I agree. It's wider than az or kona for that matter. If they sneak in wave starts the stock price will drop on tis race like enron. I think imky is the only us race that doesn't sell out and it's largely bc of the swimstart. hopefully....if Keith is reading...they will just create a gap instead of waves, like the pros used to get (15 yards) before they moved to a separate wave. It's really to my advantage for waves but I don't think good for the race if they do it.When I went to check out the swim start I was surprised by the similarities with the bridge on Mill Ave. in Ironman Arizona, it is about the same size waterway than the Rio Salado and it has the same overview from the top. Check this video out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Edh4GlZRHg It is absolutely feasible to stick 2,500 participants in there, I was in the middle of all that people you see in that video and it wasn't bad at all, at least after 200 yards... |
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2011-04-18 6:17 AM in reply to: #3451301 |
Champion 6973 marietta | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas se7930 - 2011-04-17 5:46 PM Personally, I dont like the idea of wave swim starts .... One of the things that make it really cool is that mass start of 2000+ people churning up the water. As a first time IM participant, I was kinda looking forward to being a part of that mayhem. Thats just my .02 X2! and i agree there's plenty of room for it. edit.. just saw tj's comments above... agree on kentucky. i never even considered it simply because of the start. and this whole issue, if true, of people relying on a freaking wetsuit is amazing, dumb and dangerous. if you think you might need it to complete the swim then sign up for 2012 on friday stay on the bank on saturday.
Edited by fattyfatfat 2011-04-18 6:21 AM |
2011-04-18 7:02 AM in reply to: #2944040 |
Master 2238 Dallas | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas Yup! That's exactly the same reason I never considered racing Louisville. There's a bit of fascination with the mass swim start. |
2011-04-18 8:44 AM in reply to: #3451660 |
Veteran 740 The Woodlands, TX | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas IMKY does sell out, it just takes a little longer. IMSG is only three weeks away. It has a mass start and it's not sold out. My concern with the swim isn't the start; ther's pleanty of room near the bridge. What I keep wondering about is funneling everyone into the waterway canal for the last third of the swim. In most places, it's about 50-feet wide. I suspect that won't be a problem for the people at the front or back of the pack....but expect the people in the middle could be in for a lot of contact. Edited by g_shotts 2011-04-18 8:45 AM |
2011-04-18 9:09 AM in reply to: #2944040 |
Member 22 Rowlett, TX | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas Sorry to change the subject a bit. I'm thinking of coming down to ride the bike course this weekend. My options are Friday or Saturday. I'm leaning toward Saturday so I don't miss my club's OWS practice day on Friday. Is the course overrun by motorists on Saturday, or is it just a minor issue? I don't mind traffic too much. Also, is there a preferred place to park and ride from?Thanks,Steve |
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