Election 2016 (Page 7)

I have no problem with the man who died in service to this country just have millions of young men and women.  I have a problem with the parents of the fallen using their dead son to make political speeches.  I think they dishonor their son much the same way Cindy Sheehan did.

All your hyperbole is exactly what Clinton and Kahn did. "Oh, so a Muslim died in service to his country that means all Muslims are good and patriotic and peaceful. We have nothing to fear from ISIS.  I mean, hey we found the parents of a Muslim who died fighting for the US......cry a little with us as we use these grieving parent to rip at your heart string and manipulate you sheep.  You have nothing to fear letting 10,000 Syrian Muslim refugees come into the country unvetted....we will even put mom up here but not let her speak as is the Muslim way".......uh....better scratch that last part from the Clinton narrative.

What is wrong with you dude?  You are being played......

SMH 

Keep in mind that Kahn was in Iraq and got killed in the war that Clinton voted for.

Boy, that would be scary. Thankfully, Syrian refugees are not permitted in to this country until after they have gone through a very lengthy and thorough vetting process.

According to the FBI that vetting process isn't very good though.

bullchit

Half the kids that crash in my downstairs family room on any random night of the week are Muslims.......those boys are OK with me.  In fact, from my vantage point, we could damn sure use a few more just like them.

“We can only query against that which we have collected, and so if someone has never made a ripple in the pond in Syria in a way that would get their identity or their interest reflected in our database, we can query our database until the cows come home, but there will be nothing show up because we have no record of them.” - FBI director James Comey 

So basically as long as they haven't already done something bad we have no way of knowing that they're bad guys.  I'm not saying that the vetting process doesn't do any good because I'm sure it does but I am saying that it's not as thorough as you guys would like to represent it.

My sorry arse?  Is that spelling meant to get around the censors so it won't be perceived as a personal attack.  The fact that you attacked me personally means you were offended at my reasoning and that validates my point.

I do have kids.....I served country in the Army.  I served during the first Gulf War......I was stateside but volunteer for deployment to Saudi.  Had the war lasted longer, I would likely have been deployed to Iraq in time of war.  I have life long friends from OBC who served and continue to serve....one of my best friends in life served 2 tours in Iraq and one in Afghanistan.  My wife also served in the Army....as matter of fact, we met at the Officer Basic Course. 

I haven't read all the stuff Trump said, but did he actually say that his parents have no business being here?

Comey made that statement in opposition to a bill that the House passed that would require Comey himself to certify "to the appropriate Congressional Committees that the covered alien is not a threat to the security of the United States." He also followed it up with by saying ""Could I certify to there being no risk associated with an individual? The bureau doesn't take positions on legislation, and we don't get involved in policy decisions. But that practically would be impossible."

Think about what that law was requiring of him, and you'll see that his statements are nothing more than a CYA move against a horribly written law. It didn't say the FBI certifies the alien isn't a threat, it said the Director of the FBI certifies it. 

Experts say U.S. intelligence in Syria isn't very good, because the U.S. lacks much of a presence on the ground. So there's no way to compile a thorough watch list of possible terrorists from Syria against which refugees can be checked.

Andy Borowitz, presented a “Moderate Syrian Application Form,” in which applicants were asked to describe themselves as either “A) Moderate, B) Very moderate, C) Crazy moderate or D) Other.”

Jon Stewart cracked, “Not everyone is going to be wearing their ‘HELLO I’M A TERRORIST’ name badge.”  

“We’re completely out of our league,” one former CIA vetting expert declared on condition of anonymity, reflecting the consensus of intelligence professionals with firsthand knowledge of the Syrian situation. “To be really honest, very few people know how to vet well. It’s a very specialized skill. It’s extremely difficult to do well” in the best of circumstances, the former operative said. And in Syria it has proved impossible.

Good thing the good folks at BT know better than former CIA agents.

I knew it!!!! 

One thing about Muslims is that there's a HUGE difference between Westernized Muslims that we all know and love and the Muslims that are born into the hate dens of the middle east.

I have many Muslim friends and have zero problems with them.  However if any one of us walked down the street in Syria we'd be killed on the spot.  Both are Muslims, but they're extremely different in their interpretation and more importantly application of the Quran.

It's very dangerous to assume that Muslims coming out of Syria and other hotbed terrorist states are going to be the same as peace loving Muslims that have been raised in Nebraska.

The number one job of the President of the United States is to protect our citizens.  OUR citizens, not the worlds citizens.  If you have thousands of people who have sworn that they will kill any infidel and numerous statements made that they will use the refugee crisis to exploit western borders it's moronic to ignore the threat.  Trump certainly didn't do the best in conveying his point up front, but at least he recognizes the threat.  President Obama and Hillary don't even believe there's a threat at all and want to bring tens of thousands (if not hundreds of thousands) of refugees to America for whatever reason.

Very nice.  Did you serve your country too? 

So you're justifying your position with a New Yorker satirist, the host of a Comedy Central news show, and an anonymous quote? Awesome. 

Vetting takes 18-24 months. Refugees must clear the State Department, the Department of Homeland, the FBI, Interpol, the DEA, US Citizenship and Immigration Services, and the Department of the Defense. The process includes background checks, in-depth interviews, interviews with references, biometric and biological screenings. But according to you, they are coming in "unvetted". 

So here's an anonymous quote regarding Syrian refugees “Of all the categories of persons entering the U.S., these refugees are the single most heavily screened and vetted.” Actually it's not anonymous, it's from Jana Mason, senior adviser to the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees. 

Just out of curiosity, what is the deal about letting all the Syrians in anyway?  Is it purely humanitarian?

I agree.  I had a Muslim man who worked for me several years ago who was a prince of a guy!  He was a very kind and thoughtful man and I genuinely liked him.  I don't know if he was a first generation immigrant or second generation but he had a middle eastern accent.  I felt really bad for him that his religion was being hijacked. 

On a lighter note:

Well you didn't put much stock in the FBI Director so I thought I'd try John Stewart.

RE the Klingons....

I told my wife the Klinons said "Revenge is a dish best served cold" and She said, no, Machiavelli said that.  I told her he stole it from the Klingons.