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2011-05-03 2:53 PM in reply to: #3479677 |
Master 1318 Houston | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas HED Jet 6 on the front, disc cover on the rear w/powertap. Catwoman - 2011-05-02 8:43 PM What wheels are you planning on using for IMTX? |
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2011-05-03 4:00 PM in reply to: #3480110 |
Expert 706 Spring (Houston), TX | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas bearpauly - 2011-05-03 1:42 PM I'll be riding some deep dish wheels as well. SRAM S80 front and back; similar to the Zipp 808s, but much much cheaper Did many training rides on the coarse with them and they handled well, even with the winds.
SRAM S60 front S80 rear...totally agree with the price comment x3. A disc should be fine though. the winds have been from the north or the south, so not much crosswind on the course. Hopefully the weather will be like today but without the wind. |
2011-05-03 7:57 PM in reply to: #2944040 |
Master 1468 Montgomery, Tx | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas I have a very hard time keeping my eyes open today and I can not stop my food cravings. I have not been this tired since the last time I said the hell with a run before I started my peak. I hope it is ok to go to bed. Next time I will have a coach so I can be at peace with my training. |
2011-05-03 8:44 PM in reply to: #3479931 |
Veteran 251 | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas TriPatrick - 2011-05-03 12:25 PM I want fast wheels! But all I have is a Disc cover and mavic open pro's for me. Mavic Open Pros (w/ Ultegra Hubs) for me too, except no disc cover. |
2011-05-03 8:55 PM in reply to: #3480732 |
Regular 240 Cypress, TX | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas TriPatrick - 2011-05-03 7:57 PM X2 on the food cravings. Even though taper has started and volume is dropping, I can't say the same for my appetite! It was only a 2600 meter swim this morning and 1hr 30 min ride this afternoon, but I have been eating as normal. Maybe it will balance out later. But I am not holding back on the food just yet.I have a very hard time keeping my eyes open today and I can not stop my food cravings. I have not been this tired since the last time I said the hell with a run before I started my peak. I hope it is ok to go to bed. Next time I will have a coach so I can be at peace with my training. |
2011-05-04 6:49 AM in reply to: #3480467 |
Extreme Veteran 1986 Cypress, TX | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas mman - 2011-05-03 4:00 PM bearpauly - 2011-05-03 1:42 PM I'll be riding some deep dish wheels as well. SRAM S80 front and back; similar to the Zipp 808s, but much much cheaper Did many training rides on the coarse with them and they handled well, even with the winds.
SRAM S60 front S80 rear...totally agree with the price comment x3. A disc should be fine though. the winds have been from the north or the south, so not much crosswind on the course. Hopefully the weather will be like today but without the wind.
The main determining factor for control is the front wheel and not the rear wheel. The disc stabilizes the bike in the wind. It counters the wind steer on the front of the bike. If the wind increases, it pushes the bike toward the wind, while the front gets pushed away, and vice versa. Think of a weather vane. |
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2011-05-04 10:28 AM in reply to: #3481131 |
Expert 706 Spring (Houston), TX | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas GMAN 19030 - 2011-05-04 6:49 AM mman - 2011-05-03 4:00 PM bearpauly - 2011-05-03 1:42 PM I'll be riding some deep dish wheels as well. SRAM S80 front and back; similar to the Zipp 808s, but much much cheaper Did many training rides on the coarse with them and they handled well, even with the winds.
SRAM S60 front S80 rear...totally agree with the price comment x3. A disc should be fine though. the winds have been from the north or the south, so not much crosswind on the course. Hopefully the weather will be like today but without the wind.
The main determining factor for control is the front wheel and not the rear wheel. The disc stabilizes the bike in the wind. It counters the wind steer on the front of the bike. If the wind increases, it pushes the bike toward the wind, while the front gets pushed away, and vice versa. Think of a weather vane. GMAN I understand that logic for head winds and tail winds, and agree with it (thus my comment regarding the prevailing winds lately being from the south or occasionally the north). For cross winds though, with that logic (i.e. the weather vane), a strong crosswind would try to spin the bike perpendicular to the road...or just blow it sideways. Right? |
2011-05-04 10:39 AM in reply to: #3481565 |
Extreme Veteran 622 Dubai, United Arab Emirates | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas mman - 2011-05-04 10:28 AM GMAN 19030 - 2011-05-04 6:49 AM mman - 2011-05-03 4:00 PM bearpauly - 2011-05-03 1:42 PM I'll be riding some deep dish wheels as well. SRAM S80 front and back; similar to the Zipp 808s, but much much cheaper Did many training rides on the coarse with them and they handled well, even with the winds.
SRAM S60 front S80 rear...totally agree with the price comment x3. A disc should be fine though. the winds have been from the north or the south, so not much crosswind on the course. Hopefully the weather will be like today but without the wind.
The main determining factor for control is the front wheel and not the rear wheel. The disc stabilizes the bike in the wind. It counters the wind steer on the front of the bike. If the wind increases, it pushes the bike toward the wind, while the front gets pushed away, and vice versa. Think of a weather vane. GMAN I understand that logic for head winds and tail winds, and agree with it (thus my comment regarding the prevailing winds lately being from the south or occasionally the north). For cross winds though, with that logic (i.e. the weather vane), a strong crosswind would try to spin the bike perpendicular to the road...or just blow it sideways. Right? In my experience, with my disk and HED3, cross winds don't push me around. But, instead of riding perpendicular to the ground, I'm at a slight angle. If viewing me from the front, so I'm riding directly at you, id look like this "|", but with a cross wind its more like this " \ ", but not that dramatic, if that makes sense. The only time I get pushed around is if there is a change in speed of the wind that causes my front wheel to turn. |
2011-05-04 11:14 AM in reply to: #2944040 |
Pro 4174 Keller, Texas | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas OK, all the boys are still busy taking about their wheels. Let's have some girl talk ladies! What are you planning to wear? Are you going to change in each transition? So far my plan is to wear a swimsuit in the water. Change into tri shorts and top in T1 then a running skirt and drifit shirt in T2. Of course that is subject to change. OK guys...you can chime in too |
2011-05-04 11:33 AM in reply to: #3481676 |
New user 141 | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas Ok I will reply to the no nudity coment....And I say I am not wearing a top for the swim....I did ask TJ about that at the swim on Sat. And it does not apply to the swim just the bike and run. But I guess that the ladies do have to wear a top....just saying:-) |
2011-05-04 1:03 PM in reply to: #3481725 |
Expert 1083 The Woodlands, TX | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas will6899 - 2011-05-04 11:33 AM Ok I will reply to the no nudity coment.... Somehow this does not surprise me Marcy, wish I had a response but I still have no idea. I think I'm going to wear a purple trisuit for the swim and bike, I'm planning to test them out tomorrow. I haven't decided if I want to change for the run. |
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2011-05-04 1:06 PM in reply to: #3481676 |
Expert 630 Frisco TX (DFW area) | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas Tri top and shorts for swim - changing to bike shorts T 1 - want to keep the boys happy at mile 90 changing to run shorts T 2 |
2011-05-04 1:10 PM in reply to: #3481945 |
Extreme Veteran 622 Dubai, United Arab Emirates | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas I plan on wearing tri shorts for swim, then putting on a desoto long sleeve skin cooler top in T1 to wear for the rest of the race |
2011-05-04 1:24 PM in reply to: #2944040 |
Veteran 439 Denver area | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas TYR Torque Elite speedskin for the swim (with my cycling clothes underneath) Bike - Oomph Lava compression shorts with distance chamois; PI tri top. I'll probably get some DeSoto Cool Wings for the bike, based on how I sunburned my back at Lonestar (despite using the sunscreen people). Run - change into PI tri shorts, top will stay the same. Edited by mountain_erin 2011-05-04 1:25 PM |
2011-05-04 1:40 PM in reply to: #3481565 |
Extreme Veteran 1986 Cypress, TX | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas mman - 2011-05-04 10:28 AM GMAN 19030 - 2011-05-04 6:49 AM mman - 2011-05-03 4:00 PM bearpauly - 2011-05-03 1:42 PM I'll be riding some deep dish wheels as well. SRAM S80 front and back; similar to the Zipp 808s, but much much cheaper Did many training rides on the coarse with them and they handled well, even with the winds.
SRAM S60 front S80 rear...totally agree with the price comment x3. A disc should be fine though. the winds have been from the north or the south, so not much crosswind on the course. Hopefully the weather will be like today but without the wind.
The main determining factor for control is the front wheel and not the rear wheel. The disc stabilizes the bike in the wind. It counters the wind steer on the front of the bike. If the wind increases, it pushes the bike toward the wind, while the front gets pushed away, and vice versa. Think of a weather vane. GMAN I understand that logic for head winds and tail winds, and agree with it (thus my comment regarding the prevailing winds lately being from the south or occasionally the north). For cross winds though, with that logic (i.e. the weather vane), a strong crosswind would try to spin the bike perpendicular to the road...or just blow it sideways. Right? No, the wind would not spin the bike perpendicular to the road or blow you sideways. First, you have forward motion on a bike which is different than if you were just sitting still. To use the weather vane analogy further: a weather vane has an aerodynamic shape (an arrow) in which the front end is obviously thinner than the thick back end of the weather vane (analogous to running a smaller dished front wheel like a 60mm to the full disc rear wheel). These aerodynamics allow the front to point into the wind. The shallower the front, the easier the aerodynamics are to get it to point into the wind. So a real deep front wheel (like a Zipp 1080 or Hed Jet 9 or arguably a Hed H3) is harder to control than say a Zipp 404 or Hed Jet 6 because it's harder to "pivot" from an aerodynamics standpoint. Therefore, the rider has to compensate for the "extra" pivoting... which is why a deeper front wheel is harder to control. |
2011-05-04 2:32 PM in reply to: #2944040 |
Veteran 125 Plano, TX | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas Ok, back to clothing options... I don't have a swimskin so I'll be in my tri shorts and tri top at start. Then I'm trying really hard to convince myself I want to just wear my tri shorts and tri top and not change at all. My bike shorts might be more comfy...but then again I don't have to get back on my bike for at least two weeks. So if I'm sore...not that big a deal. And I'm good with running in my gear so again no changing for me. Anyone advocate absolutely changing?? Did it make that big a difference in your race? Thanks! |
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2011-05-04 2:36 PM in reply to: #3482139 |
Extreme Veteran 349 Allen | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas |
2011-05-04 2:36 PM in reply to: #3482139 |
Extreme Veteran 349 Allen | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas |
2011-05-04 2:39 PM in reply to: #3482139 |
Master 1468 Montgomery, Tx | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas jenn1212 - 2011-05-04 2:32 PM Ok, back to clothing options... I don't have a swimskin so I'll be in my tri shorts and tri top at start. Then I'm trying really hard to convince myself I want to just wear my tri shorts and tri top and not change at all. My bike shorts might be more comfy...but then again I don't have to get back on my bike for at least two weeks. So if I'm sore...not that big a deal. And I'm good with running in my gear so again no changing for me. Anyone advocate absolutely changing?? Did it make that big a difference in your race? Thanks! Have you done any long rides in your tri shorts? I am more concerned with getting sore in areas I can protect during the ride than what is going to happen after the race. I will expect some soreness in my legs, but if I can protect my taint then I will. I am going to wear my desoto bike shorts then change into my tri shorts for the run. I do not want to hate myself for not wearing my bike shorts at mile 80-90-100-110 or 112. If you trained that way then you should not have a problem. |
2011-05-04 2:48 PM in reply to: #3482139 |
Extreme Veteran 349 Allen | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas jenn1212 - 2011-05-04 2:32 PM Ok, back to clothing options... I don't have a swimskin so I'll be in my tri shorts and tri top at start. Then I'm trying really hard to convince myself I want to just wear my tri shorts and tri top and not change at all. My bike shorts might be more comfy...but then again I don't have to get back on my bike for at least two weeks. So if I'm sore...not that big a deal. And I'm good with running in my gear so again no changing for me. Anyone advocate absolutely changing?? Did it make that big a difference in your race? Thanks! Total change. Always do in the race what you do on your long rides. You've probably figured out what feels most comfortable during the ride, so why change it? It's not a big deal if you're sore after the race, but it *is* a big deal if you're starting to get sore at, say, mile 30. 82 miles is a long way to ride when you're uncomfortable, especially "down there". |
2011-05-04 2:49 PM in reply to: #3482151 |
Pro 4174 Keller, Texas | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas TriPatrick - 2011-05-04 2:39 PM jenn1212 - 2011-05-04 2:32 PM Ok, back to clothing options... I don't have a swimskin so I'll be in my tri shorts and tri top at start. Then I'm trying really hard to convince myself I want to just wear my tri shorts and tri top and not change at all. My bike shorts might be more comfy...but then again I don't have to get back on my bike for at least two weeks. So if I'm sore...not that big a deal. And I'm good with running in my gear so again no changing for me. Anyone advocate absolutely changing?? Did it make that big a difference in your race? Thanks! Have you done any long rides in your tri shorts? I am more concerned with getting sore in areas I can protect during the ride than what is going to happen after the race. I will expect some soreness in my legs, but if I can protect my taint then I will. I am going to wear my desoto bike shorts then change into my tri shorts for the run. I do not want to hate myself for not wearing my bike shorts at mile 80-90-100-110 or 112. If you trained that way then you should not have a problem. I am actually a lot more comfortable in tri shorts. I think in aero, for me less padding is better or maybe it's just the bike shorts I have that are not good on the tri bike. I also prefer running in looser fitting clothes and after 112 in the heat it will just feel better to have some fresh clothes on. The extra few minutes will not have a huge impact on my total time Edited by dodgersmom 2011-05-04 2:50 PM |
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2011-05-04 3:11 PM in reply to: #2944040 |
Extreme Veteran 492 Frisco | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas Desoto tri shorts and Desoto tri top for the entire race ... no changing during the race .. get in and get out of transition! |
2011-05-04 3:25 PM in reply to: #2944040 |
Veteran 266 Kingwood, TX | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas Total change in T1 and T2 for me, heck if they had a shower I would use it! Unfortunately for me improvements on my T1 and T2 times are not going to get me any closer to a Kona slot... |
2011-05-04 3:30 PM in reply to: #2944040 |
Veteran 740 The Woodlands, TX | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas First IM I did complete changes in both T1 and T2. My thought process was that I'd be more comfortable biking in "bike gear (desoto 400-mile shorts) " and running in "running gear" Second IM I just wore my Desoto forza shorts and shirt all day, almost. I did swap shirts for a long-sleeve at run SN, as it was getting chilly (November race). I would say that wardrobe change made no difference at all in my level of comfort. I'm not worried about the time to change, but, for me, my tri gear is just as comfortable as "normal" running or biking kit. Part of me likes the idea of dry clothes for starting the run, but I know I'll be soaking wet again in 10 or 15-minutes, so why bother! I will put on socks, change shoes, and swap hats....other than that, everything stays the same. |
2011-05-04 3:57 PM in reply to: #2944040 |
Veteran 290 D/FW, TX | Subject: RE: Ironman Texas I plan on wearing the same Zoot top throughout the entire race, but will change bottoms. De Soto 400 mile shorts for the bike. (I <3 these) and run shorts for the run. Not quite sure what I want to do for the swim yet. Either tri shorts or just some swim bottoms. |
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