Yanti & Salty Straight-Up Ridiculous Manatees Part 5 - FULL (Page 74)

Jo, you're gorgeous. And you're one of those breathtakingly rare gorgeous women who gets even MORE attractive when she opens her mouth and says things

There's a reason it was a whole only-10min. I was wearing the biggest skates they had and they still weren't big enough in the long not to mention the wide.

But it was really fun, Indonesian-style, meaning everybody was going every which way, there wasn't a specific direction around the ring, never mind across, backwards, dead stops, and it being a bunch of Indonesians, approximately 3 people who could skate at all.

OKAY! I think I'm finally caught up. If I've neglected anyone or forgotten to comment on a RR, please flipper-thwack me upside the head. Thankyouverymuch.

It's been crazy over here. Yeah, I know I'm supposed to be (and have been) in recuperation mode, but it's ALWAYS A FRICKIN' CIRCUS over here even when I never leave the house! (And then when I do, it's like a circus on acid amidst a monster truck show).

Thank God Jim is fairly normal, although he's also the sort of person to always get himself in a scrape (he's always coming back burnt/cut/scraped/scared/etc.) and it's also his first time ever in a developing nation setting, never mind where I live, which is ... uh ... rural/suburban.

Let's just say all the animals got beer tonight. Jim and I may be long-time sober, but it got to the point where it was going to be us or them.

Welp, at least you are consistent. Consistently crazy,

BTW I skimmed the mentor group survey ... someone said something about keeping BS to a minimum ...

Bah ha ha ha. That's James. He's in Fred's group, too. I dunno ... he puts up with me, so I think "keeping BS to a minimum" is a relative statement. It's more that he doesn't put up with whining.

I was considering asking him to define BS but I thought that might get messy.

I call that a very valuable life skill!

TriAya - 2012-10-15 2:39 PM

Asalzwed - 2012-10-16 1:38 AM annnnd I  surpassed 2,000 miles over the weekend for 2012. I don't put too much emphasis on numbers like these but, I like to acknowledge the "milestone" 

I clearly suck at basic math, but even I know that's a cross-continent's worth of miles. That's truly stunning. You're the most consistent runner I know, and I know a runner or two.

So ... what do you think my limiter is? Is it ability? Is it experience? Or do you think there is something I am not doing to find my potential? 

jobaxas - 2012-10-15 3:56 PM

Asalzwed - 2012-10-16 6:46 AM

jobaxas - 2012-10-15 3:45 PM

TriAya - 2012-10-16 5:49 AM

jobaxas - 2012-10-14 2:09 PM Watching marathon with my girls I'm in the middle!!!

Jo, you're gorgeous. And you're one of those breathtakingly rare gorgeous women who gets even MORE attractive when she opens her mouth and says things

aw shucks!! I can be a real biatch!!!

annnnd that can be sexy  How was the marathon viewing??

awesome those Kenyans can MOVE!!!! I did pick up a random stranger he was cute had to be done all clean fun!! Rescued a girl who was white as a ghost about to go down I asked a guy sitting behind me to give me his water poured it on girls head and she drank some and went on to finish her ten km. of course I wanna do another marathon I think London 2014 I got a free entry for a friends charity!!!

Ooooof course you did.

Very cool that you want to do another and London of all races!?!?! Heck yes!!!

I can hardly stand to watch running races. I get antsy as hell and quite frankly jealous. I am sick. 

Asalzwed - 2012-10-16 4:56 AM

TriAya - 2012-10-15 2:39 PM

Asalzwed - 2012-10-16 1:38 AM annnnd I  surpassed 2,000 miles over the weekend for 2012. I don't put too much emphasis on numbers like these but, I like to acknowledge the "milestone" 

I clearly suck at basic math, but even I know that's a cross-continent's worth of miles. That's truly stunning. You're the most consistent runner I know, and I know a runner or two.

So ... what do you think my limiter is? Is it ability? Is it experience? Or do you think there is something I am not doing to find my potential? 

Not a thing you could be doing better, differently, or additionally. It was time to add some very challenging people and running intensities, and you've done that. Some would argue metrics, because admittedly, those constitute closely controlled, highly repeatable, discrete evidence of progress and to some extent the effectiveness of whatever changes you're making. But I still think your relative lack of them is actually one of your strengths.

Experience is an obvious limiter with an obvious solution that you're implementing.

You are extremely smart about yourself and understand yourself as a running creation like very, very few know themselves ... and as not a soul but you knows you.

What do you think your limiter is?

TriAya - 2012-10-15 4:12 PM

Asalzwed - 2012-10-16 4:56 AM

TriAya - 2012-10-15 2:39 PM

Asalzwed - 2012-10-16 1:38 AM annnnd I  surpassed 2,000 miles over the weekend for 2012. I don't put too much emphasis on numbers like these but, I like to acknowledge the "milestone" 

I clearly suck at basic math, but even I know that's a cross-continent's worth of miles. That's truly stunning. You're the most consistent runner I know, and I know a runner or two.

So ... what do you think my limiter is? Is it ability? Is it experience? Or do you think there is something I am not doing to find my potential? 

Not a thing you could be doing better, differently, or additionally. It was time to add some very challenging people and running intensities, and you've done that. Some would argue metrics, because admittedly, those constitute closely controlled, highly repeatable, discrete evidence of progress and to some extent the effectiveness of whatever changes you're making. But I still think your relative lack of them is actually one of your strengths.

Experience is an obvious limiter with an obvious solution that you're implementing.

You are extremely smart about yourself and understand yourself as a running creation like very, very few know themselves ... and as not a soul but you knows you.

What do you think your limiter is?

Well, I hope it's experience, but maybe natural ability.

I'm trying to figure out how to go forward now that I have some rough numbers. I'm perhaps being impatient and hard on myself. 

Asalzwed - 2012-10-16 5:28 AM

TriAya - 2012-10-15 4:12 PM

Asalzwed - 2012-10-16 4:56 AM

TriAya - 2012-10-15 2:39 PM

Asalzwed - 2012-10-16 1:38 AM annnnd I  surpassed 2,000 miles over the weekend for 2012. I don't put too much emphasis on numbers like these but, I like to acknowledge the "milestone" 

I clearly suck at basic math, but even I know that's a cross-continent's worth of miles. That's truly stunning. You're the most consistent runner I know, and I know a runner or two.

So ... what do you think my limiter is? Is it ability? Is it experience? Or do you think there is something I am not doing to find my potential? 

Not a thing you could be doing better, differently, or additionally. It was time to add some very challenging people and running intensities, and you've done that. Some would argue metrics, because admittedly, those constitute closely controlled, highly repeatable, discrete evidence of progress and to some extent the effectiveness of whatever changes you're making. But I still think your relative lack of them is actually one of your strengths.

Experience is an obvious limiter with an obvious solution that you're implementing.

You are extremely smart about yourself and understand yourself as a running creation like very, very few know themselves ... and as not a soul but you knows you.

What do you think your limiter is?

Well, I hope it's experience, but maybe natural ability.

I'm trying to figure out how to go forward now that I have some rough numbers. I'm perhaps being impatient and hard on myself. 

You ARE going forward. The addition of track sessions with a relatively advanced group is a huge change and worth giving time for it to really see the results. It's true of everything in distance running and you know that better than I do.

Don't change too much at once.

Start flirting with the rationale and ideas in Pfitzinger's high-mileage program. As in, where are you at relative to his 70+ mpw folks who are on the further end of beyond 70+ mpw?

I've forgotten (me? forget something? need reminding?), so please remind me if any of your stock workouts include hill repeats or a mostly-hills medium run.

What are your specific short-, medium-, and long-term goals? What are your specific plans for reaching them? What benchmarks will you use to evaluate your progress?

TriAya - 2012-10-15 4:52 PM

Asalzwed - 2012-10-16 5:28 AM

TriAya - 2012-10-15 4:12 PM

Asalzwed - 2012-10-16 4:56 AM

TriAya - 2012-10-15 2:39 PM

Asalzwed - 2012-10-16 1:38 AM annnnd I  surpassed 2,000 miles over the weekend for 2012. I don't put too much emphasis on numbers like these but, I like to acknowledge the "milestone" 

I clearly suck at basic math, but even I know that's a cross-continent's worth of miles. That's truly stunning. You're the most consistent runner I know, and I know a runner or two.

So ... what do you think my limiter is? Is it ability? Is it experience? Or do you think there is something I am not doing to find my potential? 

Not a thing you could be doing better, differently, or additionally. It was time to add some very challenging people and running intensities, and you've done that. Some would argue metrics, because admittedly, those constitute closely controlled, highly repeatable, discrete evidence of progress and to some extent the effectiveness of whatever changes you're making. But I still think your relative lack of them is actually one of your strengths.

Experience is an obvious limiter with an obvious solution that you're implementing.

You are extremely smart about yourself and understand yourself as a running creation like very, very few know themselves ... and as not a soul but you knows you.

What do you think your limiter is?

Well, I hope it's experience, but maybe natural ability.

I'm trying to figure out how to go forward now that I have some rough numbers. I'm perhaps being impatient and hard on myself. 

You ARE going forward. The addition of track sessions with a relatively advanced group is a huge change and worth giving time for it to really see the results. It's true of everything in distance running and you know that better than I do.

Don't change too much at once.

Start flirting with the rationale and ideas in Pfitzinger's high-mileage program. As in, where are you at relative to his 70+ mpw folks who are on the further end of beyond 70+ mpw?

I've forgotten (me? forget something? need reminding?), so please remind me if any of your stock workouts include hill repeats or a mostly-hills medium run.

What are your specific short-, medium-, and long-term goals? What are your specific plans for reaching them? What benchmarks will you use to evaluate your progress?

Yeah, I am allowing some lag time between getting used to these high intensity track workouts and getting my mileage back up.

I keep thinking of Pfitz. I have his book and reference it constantly. My biggest issues are that:

1. My  track workouts are on Wednesdays and his intensity is on a Tuesday. Once I'm changing his plan I am no longer following it, correct? It's actually kind of crappy because Sunday is ideal for a long run making Monday ideal for a recovery run but having high intensity on Wednesday means I have to do something on Tuesday in order to maintain quality on Wednesday but still get a workout. Silly, but that's how it is.  Any thoughts on this?

2. Once again, a scheduling issue but once Pfitz gets into the 70mpw plan he has two medium long runs (we're talkin' 12-15 miles) from what I can recall ( I don't have the book in front of me)This gets tough with my schedule. I tend to have to break certain days into doubles. I understand a double is not equal to one longer run but sometimes that's just life. I will double check this and see if I can fit it in but I just recall this being one of my reasons.

By default, a majority of my runs are extremely hilly. BUT I fully intend on a "strength" workout once a week consisting of hill repeats and a medium workout on a hilly route. 

So, once I get into marathon training it will be something like this:

Monday: recovery with strides

Tuesday: Double: Tempo AM, Easy PM with focus (say water intake or something)

Wednesday: Track workout TBD

Thursday: Double: Easy AM, Hill repeat PM

Friday: Medium Long, hilly route

Saturday: Easy with pick-ups

Sunday: Long run

The goals part is also something I am trying to figure out. I don't know, now. My long term is the trials but I have nothing in between other than "get better" and my goals for reaching that were simply to run more (working on it) and to join a club that pushes me out of my comfort zone intensity wise. The way I measure my goals are a combination of how well I perform in a race and how I feel. I say BOTH of those because I know not all the details are within a race time or placing. I guess maybe I need to establish some goals in between I'm just not sure what those look like. I don't love the idea of saying I want to lay down a sub x:xx race because I just don't like the idea of chasing numbers. 

Heh. Pfitz would tell you not to do a track workout at all. That's why you should flirt with the rationale and ideas (the "spirit") of that plan rather than its exactitude, and I can tell you're putting a lot of thought into it. If you want to shoot me your current and planned forthcoming running schedule (like what you sent me last time) I'd be happy to look at it vis-a-vis Pfitz and give you any thoughts. Scout might, definitely worth a try but he's insanely busy right now.

There are all sorts of ways that goals can look like and be evaluated by. Only an extremely few of yours need to be metric (numbers), given that's how they determine who gets to run in the Trials (so that's one), and therefore you'll probably want to know here and there in the year before qualifying, numerically, where you're at with respect to your A and B qualifying races.

Dollars to doughnuts by then, you will also want to refine your qualifying performance at the Trial marathon itself.

Yeah, you are right, he wouldn't. But he puts a ton of emphasis on vo2 max and LT runs and I think those are dumb due to the unlikeliness of legitimately knowing my v02 max or LT. Right? So I think these "track" workouts provide the general intent. 

(mind you our workouts are certainly not all on the track and when they are it's because it's the easiest way to track the times of all the different pace groups)

A constant argument I have with myself is that of not chasing numbers but the trials being one, hah.

Dude, could you imagine, I do all this and then walk the trials marathon.  

Triple dog PUG DOG dare ya.

Asalzwed - 2012-10-15 12:38 PM annnnd I  surpassed 2,000 miles over the weekend for 2012. I don't put too much emphasis on numbers like these but, I like to acknowledge the "milestone" 

Wow - that's great Salt!  And just think, you have 2.5 more months to go - your 2012 is going to be huge!

TriRx - 2012-10-15 5:41 PM

Asalzwed - 2012-10-15 12:38 PM annnnd I  surpassed 2,000 miles over the weekend for 2012. I don't put too much emphasis on numbers like these but, I like to acknowledge the "milestone" 

Wow - that's great Salt!  And just think, you have 2.5 more months to go - your 2012 is going to be huge!

BTW, thanks for the cross country boots feedback. 

Reece - that was definitely the right thing to do - and you're right, that 1.6 miles isn't going to break you...  Plus, running in 20-30 miles winds is a HUGE effort - you worked harder running shorter in that than you would ahve by running 20 in no wind for sure!

In your shortened plan, it's super important to listen to your body because you're increasing your milage so fast (as you mentioned).  I'm not telling you anything you don't already know though - you're one smart, funny and cute duck!!  Nice work out there - you're almost to the mary already! 

says the other cute duck who ran a marathon on a whim 

HAHAHAHA! I was so thinking Tracy was a cute duck too!