General Discussion Triathlon Talk » Ironman Texas Rss Feed  
Moderators: k9car363, alicefoeller Reply
 
 
of 110
 
 
2011-05-06 3:02 PM
in reply to: #3485067

User image

Extreme Veteran
580
500252525
Subject: RE: Ironman Texas
mountain_erin - 2011-05-06 8:34 AM

irondreams - 2011-05-05 10:45 PM Trying to decide if I should splurge on a TYR swimskin - please convince me to either purchase or forget it.  My plan it to wear my tri top and shorts for the swim otherwise.  Thanks!

Anne - you could be twins with me and Carlye   (Although, I'm not sure if that helps or hurts here!)  I got mine from The Tri Shop with something like and add'l 10% off (google for a coupon code) - I think I paid $190 for mine.

It is not as much about the price as whether it will make any difference for me personally.  I am trying to either convince myself that it will make the non-wetsuit swim better.  Obviously "better" is hard to define in this case, but I guess I am looking for feedback from folks that have one on what it does for them.



2011-05-06 3:53 PM
in reply to: #3485877

User image

Extreme Veteran
1986
1000500100100100100252525
Cypress, TX
Subject: RE: Ironman Texas

I opted against the speedsuit because I would think the time spent taking it off in T1 would negate the time it saved on the swim.  Remember the time saved on the swim wearing a speedsuit isn't like the time you save wearing a wetsuit.  A wetsuit can save you several minutes, it's very easy to remove and you're probably already wearing your bike-ready clothes underneath it.  A speedsuit might save you a minute.  That could mean something if you're vying for a Kona slot and that's assuming you can change out of it in less time than it saved on the swim.

Do you think you can take off the speedsuit and put on another top in less than a minute while wet?

De Soto does make a speedsuit that can be worn the entire race but the chamois pad is just like regular tri shorts so I wouldn't bike 112 miles in it.

2011-05-06 5:07 PM
in reply to: #3485974

Member
45
25
houston
Subject: RE: Ironman Texas
I have the desoto speed suit and the pad is awesome for biking. I am going to jump out of the water and straight onto the bike! Love this suit. Wonder if it is resistant to piranha teeth
2011-05-06 6:42 PM
in reply to: #3485974

User image

Expert
2547
200050025
The Woodlands, TX
Subject: RE: Ironman Texas
GMAN 19030 - 2011-05-06 3:53 PM

I opted against the speedsuit because I would think the time spent taking it off in T1 would negate the time it saved on the swim.  Remember the time saved on the swim wearing a speedsuit isn't like the time you save wearing a wetsuit.  A wetsuit can save you several minutes, it's very easy to remove and you're probably already wearing your bike-ready clothes underneath it.  A speedsuit might save you a minute.  That could mean something if you're vying for a Kona slot and that's assuming you can change out of it in less time than it saved on the swim.

Do you think you can take off the speedsuit and put on another top in less than a minute while wet?

De Soto does make a speedsuit that can be worn the entire race but the chamois pad is just like regular tri shorts so I wouldn't bike 112 miles in it.

Those who purchased a Torque and tested out are averaging about 5 seconds per hundred. The other bump actually comes in transition (that's why I bought mine) as you can wear your outfit underneath and save a bunch of time in T1. In IMCOZ I think my T1 time was 2 minutes thanks to the torque. You're still right though, even a 3-4 minute bump is the concern of those trying to PR or get a slot. 3-4 minutes for those looking to finish isn't worth the money.

2011-05-06 6:42 PM
in reply to: #2944040

User image

Expert
2547
200050025
The Woodlands, TX
Subject: RE: Ironman Texas
Lake Woodlands Water Temp as of 5/6/2011: 74 Degrees
2011-05-06 6:43 PM
in reply to: #3485579

User image

Member
23

Prattville
Subject: RE: Ironman Texas

mman - 2011-05-06 12:30 PM
dodgersmom - 2011-05-06 11:18 AM


Does anyone besides me know that the are grossly undertrained? I've been battling a foot injury since February, so running volume is very low. I've gotten long rides in, but still not enough total mileage. And I swim slowly. The run will have a lot of walking for me. If I am sub 15 hours, I'll be glad.

 

Same boat as you. Very little running due to achilles injury. Maybe see you on the walk???



2011-05-06 8:33 PM
in reply to: #3485577

New user
13

The Woodlands
Subject: RE: Ironman Texas
spuphal - 2011-05-06 12:28 PMNot to freak anyone out, but please double check your reservations. I just received these TWO posts on my blog today from my post about what happened to me at the Marriott Residence Inn/The Woodlands: "Same thing happened to me at the Residence Inn on Lake Front Drive. I called yesterday just to make sure it was confirmed even though I had the email saying it was. When I call they said I had been bumped to the Marriott Courtyard next door. Normally it would not be a huge issue except we wanted the kitchenette to prepare our own food. I was told that Marriott Platinum members take precedence and they can bump anybody to make sure they have a room. It is 2 weeks before the race and I was never notified. SO I would have shown up that day with my ice chest full of food and nowhere to put it. AND I also had made my reservations a year a go!! While I am thankful to still have a hotel within walking distance that is a ridiculous policy they have. When I talked to corporate they just told me "Thats the way it is. It is just an unfortunate situation.""The same thing happened to me at the Hilton next door to that hotel you are talking about, the girl on the phone told me they are oversold by 40 rooms two days ago, and would only keep one of my 3 rooms i booked back in june too.when i asked her how something like that could happen she said everybody knew about the race before the hotels did and they could not put up rooms for the racers fast enough and the higher up hilton people booked reservations and pushed they rest of us out, gee thanks! now I am leaving some of my family home because there is no room for them to come along. "
I mentioned this to my daughter who is a manager of an area hotel, and she tells me that if you have a guaranteed reservation then the hotel is obligated to honor it, although they can move you to a different hotel. These details should be written in the fine print of the reservation papers.
2011-05-06 10:30 PM
in reply to: #2944040

User image

Master
1779
1000500100100252525
Subject: RE: Ironman Texas
What is everyone doing this weekend?

Long swim/ 2.5 hour bike Saturday
4:30 Bike/with brick on Sunday.
2011-05-07 12:32 AM
in reply to: #3486164

User image

Member
23

Prattville
Subject: RE: Ironman Texas

tjfry - 2011-05-06 6:42 PM Lake Woodlands Water Temp as of 5/6/2011: 74 Degrees

 

Im going to freeze if this ends up being no-wetsuit.

2011-05-07 1:02 AM
in reply to: #3486407

User image

Extreme Veteran
565
5002525
Silicon Valley
Subject: RE: Ironman Texas
fyreo3 - 2011-05-06 10:32 PM

tjfry - 2011-05-06 6:42 PM Lake Woodlands Water Temp as of 5/6/2011: 74 Degrees

 

Im going to freeze if this ends up being no-wetsuit.

That's a joke right? I'm most looking forward to the sans-wetsuit swim. I'm more comfortable without one anyways.

Just be glad you're not doing IMSG tomorrow - now that's a cold swim, wetsuit or not.

2011-05-07 5:30 AM
in reply to: #3485577

Master
1468
10001001001001002525
Montgomery, Tx
Subject: RE: Ironman Texas

spuphal - 2011-05-06 12:28 PM Not to freak anyone out, but please double check your reservations. I just received these TWO posts on my blog today from my post about what happened to me at the Marriott Residence Inn/The Woodlands: "Same thing happened to me at the Residence Inn on Lake Front Drive. I called yesterday just to make sure it was confirmed even though I had the email saying it was. When I call they said I had been bumped to the Marriott Courtyard next door. Normally it would not be a huge issue except we wanted the kitchenette to prepare our own food. I was told that Marriott Platinum members take precedence and they can bump anybody to make sure they have a room. It is 2 weeks before the race and I was never notified. SO I would have shown up that day with my ice chest full of food and nowhere to put it. AND I also had made my reservations a year a go!! While I am thankful to still have a hotel within walking distance that is a ridiculous policy they have. When I talked to corporate they just told me  "

I called them 2 weeks ago to confirm and the sales lady told me they had a few more rooms"open up".  She asked if I would let people know, but they would not ne getting the rate I have.  I know hotels jack up proces on demand weekends, but it is unsettleing they are bumping people to jack the prices up.



2011-05-07 7:17 AM
in reply to: #3486416

User image

Member
23

Prattville
Subject: RE: Ironman Texas
dhopman - 2011-05-07 1:02 AM
fyreo3 - 2011-05-06 10:32 PM

tjfry - 2011-05-06 6:42 PM Lake Woodlands Water Temp as of 5/6/2011: 74 Degrees

 

Im going to freeze if this ends up being no-wetsuit.

That's a joke right? I'm most looking forward to the sans-wetsuit swim. I'm more comfortable without one anyways.

Just be glad you're not doing IMSG tomorrow - now that's a cold swim, wetsuit or not.

Unfortunately not a joke. All of the lap swim times at my pool follow the arthritic class, and the Y caters to them. If the temp is below 85, they cancel the class. The pool is always above 85 and no ventilation.

Basically, I am used to swimming in a hot tub that is in a sauna.

2011-05-07 1:18 PM
in reply to: #2944040

User image

Regular
240
10010025
Cypress, TX
Subject: RE: Ironman Texas
Anyone else experiencing weight gain during taper? I went from 146 to 154 from last Friday to today.Although this week has sucked for me. No running, only swimming and biking, super east workouts too. Just wondering. I am about to slam 3 hrs on the wheels right now to get back in the rhythm.
2011-05-07 1:30 PM
in reply to: #3486506

User image

Extreme Veteran
479
100100100100252525
The Woodlands, TX
Subject: RE: Ironman Texas
fyreo3 - 2011-05-07 7:17 AM
dhopman - 2011-05-07 1:02 AM
fyreo3 - 2011-05-06 10:32 PM

tjfry - 2011-05-06 6:42 PM Lake Woodlands Water Temp as of 5/6/2011: 74 Degrees

 

Im going to freeze if this ends up being no-wetsuit.

That's a joke right? I'm most looking forward to the sans-wetsuit swim. I'm more comfortable without one anyways.

Just be glad you're not doing IMSG tomorrow - now that's a cold swim, wetsuit or not.

Unfortunately not a joke. All of the lap swim times at my pool follow the arthritic class, and the Y caters to them. If the temp is below 85, they cancel the class. The pool is always above 85 and no ventilation.

Basically, I am used to swimming in a hot tub that is in a sauna.

Temp this morning for CB&I Tri in Lake Woodlands was 77.9.

2011-05-07 4:13 PM
in reply to: #3486771

Master
1468
10001001001001002525
Montgomery, Tx
Subject: RE: Ironman Texas

bridgeland - 2011-05-07 1:18 PM Anyone else experiencing weight gain during taper? I went from 146 to 154 from last Friday to today.Although this week has sucked for me. No running, only swimming and biking, super east workouts too. Just wondering. I am about to slam 3 hrs on the wheels right now to get back in the rhythm.

<------raises hand;  I really wanted to not be a clyde for the race, but I would need to starve myself. I have been under 200 after some huge weekends, but end of the week I was back to 205ish.  Your perfect race weight is the weight you are at your best race (I think that is how Matt Fitzgerald put it). 

2011-05-07 6:11 PM
in reply to: #2944040

User image

Pro
4174
200020001002525
Keller, Texas
Subject: RE: Ironman Texas


2011-05-07 7:45 PM
in reply to: #3487061

User image

Regular
240
10010025
Cypress, TX
Subject: RE: Ironman Texas
NICE!
dodgersmom - 2011-05-07 6:11 PM
2011-05-07 10:22 PM
in reply to: #2944040

User image

Queen BTich
12411
500050002000100100100100
,
Subject: RE: Ironman Texas

Ok, so most of you will still be in town Sunday afternoon. Come help out a good cause and great fellowship with other triathletes & BTers!

http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=251260&posts=1#M3487350

2011-05-08 4:05 AM
in reply to: #3486160


14

Subject: RE: Ironman Texas
In a Torque - 5 sec per 100? Impressive!
Is that for all swimmers? Or swimmers that are MOP that get that much boost?
2011-05-08 9:59 AM
in reply to: #3486506

User image

New user
10

Subject: RE: Ironman Texas

We should try to get a bunch of people to buy bags of ice to throw over the bridge on friday night.

That should drop the water temp a little.

 

 

 



Edited by ksmith76 2011-05-08 10:06 AM
2011-05-08 3:04 PM
in reply to: #3487438

User image

Expert
2547
200050025
The Woodlands, TX
Subject: RE: Ironman Texas
Mac1011 - 2011-05-08 4:05 AMIn a Torque - 5 sec per 100? Impressive!Is that for all swimmers? Or swimmers that are MOP that get that much boost?
These are swimmers in the 1:10 - 1:15 finish time variety. They swam x distance with and without at the same effort level. My results were closer to 2 seconds per hundred, but even that was surprising to me. I was expectIng a small to unnoticeable difference in the water, but got a pleasant surprise.


2011-05-08 5:54 PM
in reply to: #3487962

User image

Master
1318
1000100100100
Houston
Subject: RE: Ironman Texas

I'm not as fast as TJ but I tested out the suit this past Thursday in the pool and I noticed the same improvement ~2-3s/100.

tjfry - 2011-05-08 3:04 PM
Mac1011 - 2011-05-08 4:05 AMIn a Torque - 5 sec per 100? Impressive!Is that for all swimmers? Or swimmers that are MOP that get that much boost?
These are swimmers in the 1:10 - 1:15 finish time variety. They swam x distance with and without at the same effort level. My results were closer to 2 seconds per hundred, but even that was surprising to me. I was expectIng a small to unnoticeable difference in the water, but got a pleasant surprise.

2011-05-08 6:34 PM
in reply to: #2944040

User image

Expert
2547
200050025
The Woodlands, TX
Subject: RE: Ironman Texas

Ironman St George hit 91 degrees for almost 2 hours with 10% humidity. Drop out rate was 18%.

I know there are some nice climbs and it looks like the wind showed up later in the day in IMSG, but the heat/humidity will be worse for us before the swim is over. I hope everyone is prepared. Including myself!

http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KDXZ/2011/5/7/DailyHistory.html?req_city=NA&req_state=NA&req_statename=NA&MR=1



Edited by tjfry 2011-05-08 6:34 PM
2011-05-08 6:54 PM
in reply to: #3486771

User image

Master
2238
200010010025
Dallas
Subject: RE: Ironman Texas
bridgeland - 2011-05-07 1:18 PM Anyone else experiencing weight gain during taper? I went from 146 to 154 from last Friday to today.Although this week has sucked for me. No running, only swimming and biking, super east workouts too. Just wondering. I am about to slam 3 hrs on the wheels right now to get back in the rhythm.
I'm on the same boat, packing pounds and feeling very heavy...
2011-05-08 7:36 PM
in reply to: #3487962

User image

Veteran
266
1001002525
Kingwood, TX
Subject: RE: Ironman Texas

tjfry - 2011-05-08 3:04 PM
Mac1011 - 2011-05-08 4:05 AMIn a Torque - 5 sec per 100? Impressive!Is that for all swimmers? Or swimmers that are MOP that get that much boost?
These are swimmers in the 1:10 - 1:15 finish time variety. They swam x distance with and without at the same effort level. My results were closer to 2 seconds per hundred, but even that was surprising to me. I was expectIng a small to unnoticeable difference in the water, but got a pleasant surprise.

TJ - for us MOPer's is there a more affordable atlernative srtictly to wear over our tri outfit to make T1 easier?  Maybe your store carries something that many would be willing to spend about 1/2 the trorque cost?  Thanks!

 



Edited by jls42 2011-05-08 7:41 PM
New Thread
General Discussion Triathlon Talk » Ironman Texas Rss Feed  
 
 
of 110