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2011-05-08 7:40 PM
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Did it last year and I think the Drop rate was close to similar - The climbs are the killers - I am sure the heat did not help.

Based on the current forecast we will all need to regulate output on the bike to avoid to avoid a painful marathon!  Start praying now for a North Wind!

 



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2011-05-08 8:19 PM
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jls42 - 2011-05-08 7:40 PM

Based on the current forecast we will all need to regulate output on the bike to avoid to avoid a painful marathon! 

 

That's why man invented the power meter. Cool

2011-05-08 8:37 PM
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I guess I'll start the thread "race day extended weather forecast" game


2011-05-08 8:48 PM
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GMAN 19030 - 2011-05-08 8:19 PM
jls42 - 2011-05-08 7:40 PM

Based on the current forecast we will all need to regulate output on the bike to avoid to avoid a painful marathon! 

 

That's why man invented the power meter. Cool

I can not wait to be able to afford a power meter (and coach for that matter).  Until then I may glance at my HR, but RPE will be my weapon of choice.

2011-05-08 8:50 PM
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tjfry - 2011-05-08 3:04 PM
Mac1011 - 2011-05-08 4:05 AMIn a Torque - 5 sec per 100? Impressive!Is that for all swimmers? Or swimmers that are MOP that get that much boost?
These are swimmers in the 1:10 - 1:15 finish time variety. They swam x distance with and without at the same effort level. My results were closer to 2 seconds per hundred, but even that was surprising to me. I was expectIng a small to unnoticeable difference in the water, but got a pleasant surprise.

TJ - for us MOPer's is there a more affordable atlernative srtictly to wear over our tri outfit to make T1 easier?  Maybe your store carries something that many would be willing to spend about 1/2 the trorque cost?  Thanks!

 

 

Unfortunately I don't. Blueseventy has a great skin but it's not much cheaper. Since Fina came down with the new rules after the Olympics, all the 1 piece men's suits (or any suits with zipper for that matter) have stopped being made, so there's not an easy alternative. I will dig around the warehouse this week and see if there is anything that can be used.

2011-05-08 8:51 PM
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GMAN 19030 - 2011-05-08 8:19 PM
jls42 - 2011-05-08 7:40 PM

Based on the current forecast we will all need to regulate output on the bike to avoid to avoid a painful marathon! 

 

That's why man invented the power meter. Cool

I can not wait to be able to afford a power meter (and coach for that matter).  Until then I may glance at my HR, but RPE will be my weapon of choice.

 

HR for president!!



2011-05-08 8:54 PM
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On a side note, I see IM CDA has 119 pages. I'm not getting whipped in page count!!

 

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2011-05-08 9:03 PM
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No way...we will be over 120 by race day!

Another advantage of working from home, for the next week and a half I am going to set up my laptop outside on the patio and work in the heat
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tjfry - 2011-05-08 8:54 PM

On a side note, I see IM CDA has 119 pages. I'm not getting whipped in page count!!

 

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2011-05-08 11:28 PM
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Need some reassurance. Below are this past weeks total:Week TotalsSwim  15950.00M 5hr 20m. Bike 128.57 Mi 7hr 05m. Str  1h. Super low volume with no running. Is this really bad? Will I lose lots of fitness? Longest ride this week was only 63 miles. I expect to start running a bit this coming week. Trying to fully heal. Can't say the same for my food volume though. Taping my month shut this coming week.

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bridgeland - 2011-05-08 11:28 PM Need some reassurance. Below are this past weeks total:Week TotalsSwim  15950.00M 5hr 20m. Bike 128.57 Mi 7hr 05m. Str  1h. Super low volume with no running. Is this really bad? Will I lose lots of fitness? Longest ride this week was only 63 miles. I expect to start running a bit this coming week. Trying to fully heal. Can't say the same for my food volume though. Taping my month shut this coming week.
Don't sweat it Pedro, the hay is in the barn already. You will not loose fitness and it's much better to be rested.



2011-05-09 6:53 AM
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TriPatrick - 2011-05-08 8:48 PM
GMAN 19030 - 2011-05-08 8:19 PM
jls42 - 2011-05-08 7:40 PM

Based on the current forecast we will all need to regulate output on the bike to avoid to avoid a painful marathon! 

 

That's why man invented the power meter. Cool 

I can not wait to be able to afford a power meter (and coach for that matter).  Until then I may glance at my HR, but RPE will be my weapon of choice.

A power meter really is a game changer if you train and use it correctly.  Once you have your FTP, everything falls into place as far as what percentages to ride for what distances and so on.  A watt is a watt is a watt -- whether it's warm or cold, headwind or tailwind, hilly or flat, etc.  Ride your goal watts and let everyone else play the guessing game of whether they're pushing too little or too hard.

2011-05-09 7:18 AM
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I'll join the putting weight on club.  6 pounds up but I also know my water intake has been really bad.  Going to go back to my "normal" eating pattern today.  Bye Bye egg Mcmuffins.  You will be missed.

In other news.  My workstation is set up on th patio.  Let operation heat acclimation begin!
2011-05-09 7:29 AM
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I had my first IMTX dream last night.  It was race day and I was late so I did not get marked.  I wanted to run with a friend so I swam and biked by myself then went and took a nap waiting for said friend to finish the S/B so we could run together.  He ended up not waiting for me then I paniked because I did not have a number on and I was afraid I would not be able to cross the finish line.  I could not find KJ to talk to him about it and I started screaming- then I woke up.
2011-05-09 7:44 AM
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bridgeland - 2011-05-08 11:28 PM

Need some reassurance. Below are this past weeks total:Week TotalsSwim  15950.00M 5hr 20m. Bike 128.57 Mi 7hr 05m. Str  1h. Super low volume with no running. Is this really bad? Will I lose lots of fitness? Longest ride this week was only 63 miles. I expect to start running a bit this coming week. Trying to fully heal. Can't say the same for my food volume though. Taping my month shut this coming week.


You are fine. You shouldn't lose any fitness. You would have my plan's (Fink's competitive) goal, besides the running. Last week the plan called for 14 hours. This week it is 11 hours. Which is understandable. Good idea on resting the foot!
2011-05-09 7:57 AM
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tjfry - 2011-05-08 3:04 PM
Mac1011 - 2011-05-08 4:05 AMIn a Torque - 5 sec per 100? Impressive!Is that for all swimmers? Or swimmers that are MOP that get that much boost?
These are swimmers in the 1:10 - 1:15 finish time variety. They swam x distance with and without at the same effort level. My results were closer to 2 seconds per hundred, but even that was surprising to me. I was expectIng a small to unnoticeable difference in the water, but got a pleasant surprise.

 

I'm willing to volunteer to rent/borrow one for the race and report on my findings Cool

2011-05-09 8:08 AM
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GMAN 19030 - 2011-05-09 6:53 AM
TriPatrick - 2011-05-08 8:48 PM
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jls42 - 2011-05-08 7:40 PM

Based on the current forecast we will all need to regulate output on the bike to avoid to avoid a painful marathon! 

 

That's why man invented the power meter. Cool 

I can not wait to be able to afford a power meter (and coach for that matter).  Until then I may glance at my HR, but RPE will be my weapon of choice.

A power meter really is a game changer if you train and use it correctly.  Once you have your FTP, everything falls into place as far as what percentages to ride for what distances and so on.  A watt is a watt is a watt -- whether it's warm or cold, headwind or tailwind, hilly or flat, etc.  Ride your goal watts and let everyone else play the guessing game of whether they're pushing too little or too hard.

Honest question here (and I do love training with the power meter)... but since power is a measure of work; wouldn't it take more out of you to push XX watts when it's 90 degrees with 90% humidity then it would to push XX watts at 65 degrees with low humidity? I know it's the same amount of work/effort; just that your body is dealing with the heat and humidity so it takes a bigger toll.

2011-05-09 8:24 AM
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tjfry - 2011-05-08 3:04 PM
Mac1011 - 2011-05-08 4:05 AMIn a Torque - 5 sec per 100? Impressive!Is that for all swimmers? Or swimmers that are MOP that get that much boost?
These are swimmers in the 1:10 - 1:15 finish time variety. They swam x distance with and without at the same effort level. My results were closer to 2 seconds per hundred, but even that was surprising to me. I was expectIng a small to unnoticeable difference in the water, but got a pleasant surprise.

TJ - for us MOPer's is there a more affordable atlernative srtictly to wear over our tri outfit to make T1 easier?  Maybe your store carries something that many would be willing to spend about 1/2 the trorque cost?  Thanks!

 

Jason, both Patrick W and me picked up a Torque.  I got the Elite.  I have done a couple of OWS in it and it works.  I can definitely tell a difference.  Not as buoyant as my Hurricane wetsuit but it makes you feel a little more "slippery" in the water than without it!

I got a couple of discount options if you want one.  shoot me an email and I'll send you the info.

2011-05-09 10:01 AM
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Absolutely. You still need to watch your HR. 1+ swim, high temps, etc can raise your heart level in relation to your power output. Maintain your power level so long as your HR doesn't get above its high-level mark. I noticed this in IM Coz in 2009. High humidity had my HR higher than i expected based on my wattage goals. Settled with lower wattage in order to maintain HR level.
2011-05-09 10:14 AM
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will6899 - 2011-05-04 11:33 AM Ok I will reply to the no nudity coment....And I say I am not wearing a top for the swim....I did ask TJ about that at the swim on Sat. And it does not apply to the swim just the bike and run. But I guess that the ladies do have to wear a top....just saying:-)

Yup, me too...  No top for the swim or a swim skin...

WILL, what is the deal man? Do you have your phone set up to notify you when the word nudity "pops up" ???  LMAO !!!



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TriPatrick - 2011-05-09 7:29 AM

I had my first IMTX dream last night.  It was race day and I was late so I did not get marked.  I wanted to run with a friend so I swam and biked by myself then went and took a nap waiting for said friend to finish the S/B so we could run together.  He ended up not waiting for me then I paniked because I did not have a number on and I was afraid I would not be able to cross the finish line.  I could not find KJ to talk to him about it and I started screaming- then I woke up.


My first one was Friday night - I somehow missed check-in for the race and was devastated to not be able to participate. To help me feel better, my mom signed me up for IMCoz and I subsequently freaked out on her because I didn't want to go through all this training again, I just wanted to be done with it!

When my alarm went off Saturday morning I announced I didn't need to go to the lake to swim - since I was going to miss the race anyway it was a waste of time to keep training. Luckily I had some sense talked into me and I got my swim in
2011-05-09 10:21 AM
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WILL, what is the deal man? Do you have your phone set up to notify you when the word nudity "pops up" ???  LMAO !!!



And if you do, Ron wants directions on how to set this up on his phone...
2011-05-09 10:34 AM
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I already know I'm screwed because of the heat.  It FINALLY was warm here in Colorado this past weekend.  Rode my bike for 2 hours, which was fine.  Then I ran for 45 min... was fine for 20 and then my HR blew up.  I was in upper Zone 3 just WALKING up a hill and lower Z3 walking on a flat.  And I think the air temp was a nice dry 82 degrees.  :facepalm: 

Nothing I can do about it, it just "is what it is".  My goal was just to finish and have fun, so if that means doing a bunch of walking, that's what it will be.

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PLMsbr - 2011-05-09 8:08 AM
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GMAN 19030 - 2011-05-08 8:19 PM
jls42 - 2011-05-08 7:40 PM

Based on the current forecast we will all need to regulate output on the bike to avoid to avoid a painful marathon! 

 

That's why man invented the power meter. Cool 

I can not wait to be able to afford a power meter (and coach for that matter).  Until then I may glance at my HR, but RPE will be my weapon of choice.

A power meter really is a game changer if you train and use it correctly.  Once you have your FTP, everything falls into place as far as what percentages to ride for what distances and so on.  A watt is a watt is a watt -- whether it's warm or cold, headwind or tailwind, hilly or flat, etc.  Ride your goal watts and let everyone else play the guessing game of whether they're pushing too little or too hard.

Honest question here (and I do love training with the power meter)... but since power is a measure of work; wouldn't it take more out of you to push XX watts when it's 90 degrees with 90% humidity then it would to push XX watts at 65 degrees with low humidity? I know it's the same amount of work/effort; just that your body is dealing with the heat and humidity so it takes a bigger toll.

You nailed it. Power is an output and is absolute. A watt is a watt. Problem is that your body's ability to produce that watt is quite variable. Your ability to produce a watt in 60 degrees, no humidity, in the first hour of activity is much different than it's ability to produce that same watt in 90 degrees, 80% humidity during hour 5 of activity. Those who established a goal avg wattage for the race in cool weather (and don't use hr) will not realize that they are blowing up at mile 95.

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