Tebow! (Page 8)

I’m sorry; people can’t have it both ways.  He cannot be praised for winning games after poor performances where his defense played very well to give him a chance at the end of the game, and then not get the blame for playing the way he did against the Bills.

I don't think I ever claimed that the winning streak by the Broncos was solely by design of Tebow.  I also did not say that Tebow did not have any blame for how things turned out on Sunday.  I think I just pointed out that there were many things that contributed to the Broncos losing to the Bills.  It sure wasn't just the play of Tebow.

...and on a side note... can Brady Quin become anymore irrelavent in the NFL?

Not even if he tried....

I'm a die hard Seminole fan, and I love Timmy Touchdown.  I hope he succeeds.  I don't think he will ever be an all pro, but I hope he has a long career as an NFL QB.

In this day and age of arogant athletes, where the major stories are of professional athletes being greedy and engaging in less than stellar personal behavior, it is refreshing to see a young man who seems to stand for all the right things.

He seems to be a genuine and good guy, and that's why I route for him.  I can point to him and tell the young people in my life, see you can be successful and live life the right way too.

So yes I route for Tebow, even though he was a Gator.

It looks like the Broncos will be led to the postseason by a QB. Fans can just ignore the fact that the quarterback is Phillip Rivers.

scoobysdad - 2012-01-01 4:32 PM Awful game for Tebow today, in part due to a truly atrocious offensive game plan. They didn't even let him play. That said, he helped take a losing team to the playoffs. And as the Packers showed last year as the sixth seeded team in the NFC, all you have to do is get in to have a shot. No sense wasting your miracles until you really need to use them.

You are dead on there. He has a knack for doing just enough to squeak out a win so its fitting he wins just enough games to get into the playoffs.

pitt83 - 2012-01-01 5:10 PM

uclamatt2007 - 2012-01-01 8:02 PM

scoobysdad - 2012-01-01 4:32 PM Awful game for Tebow today, in part due to a truly atrocious offensive game plan. They didn't even let him play. That said, he helped take a losing team to the playoffs. And as the Packers showed last year as the sixth seeded team in the NFC, all you have to do is get in to have a shot. No sense wasting your miracles until you really need to use them.

 

You are dead on there. He has a knack for doing just enough to squeak out a win so its fitting he wins just enough games to get into the playoffs.

Chiefs did a great job keeping linebackers in to contain Timmy. Tight man coverage against average recievers made it easy to shut him down. 6-22, 1 int, 16yds rushing. I think the template of how to beat DEN is written and available.

Chicago showed how to beat them for 55 minutes. Keep him in the pocket and and don't let him throw underneath. Right now he can't beat you deep consistently.

If Tebow is to have a chance in this league he has to develop a deep ball and that is one of the hardest things to develop.

On a related note, i'm pretty sure I could throw for 300 yards and 3 TDs as  Green Bay Packer QB.

scoobysdad - 2012-01-01 7:32 PM Awful game for Tebow today, in part due to a truly atrocious offensive game plan. They didn't even let him play. That said, he helped take a losing team to the playoffs. And as the Packers showed last year as the sixth seeded team in the NFC, all you have to do is get in to have a shot. No sense wasting your miracles until you really need to use them.

I think the problem with the game plan is that they don't trust him throwing the ball, and when he does throw it you can see why...

Denver can play next week with 13 players on the field while on offensee that it won't make a difference against the Steelers.  This playoff appearance the only thing it guarantees for them is a crappier position in the draft....same thing those last few victories did for my Phins

scoobysdad - 2012-01-01 5:32 PM Awful game for Tebow today, in part due to a truly atrocious offensive game plan. They didn't even let him play. That said, he helped take a losing team to the playoffs. And as the Packers showed last year as the sixth seeded team in the NFC, all you have to do is get in to have a shot. No sense wasting your miracles until you really need to use them.

agreed.  The Denver game plan seemed to be more to avoid turning the ball over then it was to score.  Fox really screwed up be trading Brandon Lloyd, by far the best receiver on the Bronco roster, and trading him for a 6th round pick the week before he named Tebow as starter.  Royal is quick but he plays like a kid afraid of getting tackled.  The entire receiving core is pretty mediocre and really don't help the Tebow situation. Then Elway made a bonehead decision by letting Orton go and he ends up with a division rival.  As it turns out it really does not matter because the Raiders lost so they backed in.  As a Bronco fan yes, disappointed in Tebow some...but really disappointed with Fox!  Curious to see what game plan he pulls from his arse...is he going to play to win or play to NOT turn the ball over.

As you said, once in the playoffs anyone has a shot.  D's best shot is for a major snowstorm to  move in and to play in a blizzard! 

rayd - 2012-01-02 1:18 PM

scoobysdad - 2012-01-01 5:32 PM Awful game for Tebow today, in part due to a truly atrocious offensive game plan. They didn't even let him play. That said, he helped take a losing team to the playoffs. And as the Packers showed last year as the sixth seeded team in the NFC, all you have to do is get in to have a shot. No sense wasting your miracles until you really need to use them.

agreed.  The Denver game plan seemed to be more to avoid turning the ball over then it was to score.  Fox really screwed up be trading Brandon Lloyd, by far the best receiver on the Bronco roster, and trading him for a 6th round pick the week before he named Tebow as starter.  Royal is quick but he plays like a kid afraid of getting tackled.  The entire receiving core is pretty mediocre and really don't help the Tebow situation. Then Elway made a bonehead decision by letting Orton go and he ends up with a division rival.  As it turns out it really does not matter because the Raiders lost so they backed in.  As a Bronco fan yes, disappointed in Tebow some...but really disappointed with Fox!  Curious to see what game plan he pulls from his arse...is he going to play to win or play to NOT turn the ball over.

As you said, once in the playoffs anyone has a shot.  D's best shot is for a major snowstorm to  move in and to play in a blizzard! 

Ray, we could put Timmy in a hot tub time machine and have him throw to Rice and Monk in the '80's, Moss and Irvin in the '90's...and it still wouldn't work.

He can't throw.  He just can't.  If Fox wasn't slowing the game down (a-la Pete Carroll's old Princeton Tigers) the Broncos would be getting dusted every week.  Ball control and field position.  Fox knows what he's got...unfortunately for Bronco fans, the rest of the league has figured Tebow out.   

If God truly supports Tim Tebow, there will be a massive blizzard on game day.  It's Denver's only hope against Pittsburgh.  That said, I will be rooting for Denver...love the underdogs!!!  

It's all moot.. Broncos are out of their league. I hate it when teams luck out into the playoffs and have no business being there. Even when it is my team. They simply are not ready for prime time.It's ridiculous the Broncs win a division with 3 teams at 8-8 and the 12-4 Steelers have to travel to them... but it happens every year.

It has been a positive year, that is about all that can be said. Tebow will get better or he won't. Broncos will stick with him or they won't. They still need a offense, they still need a defense... there is still plenty of work to do. Just happy we are moving ina positive direction. We shall see what Fox can do next year.

dang p-man...I expected more from you. 

Ray, the only way Quinn sees the field is if Tebow gets knocked out of the game.  You can't pull Tebow from the game...he's the man.  

I can't wait to watch it!

Now, let's play "what if."  What if the Broncos get demolished?  Is it easier to create an open competition for the starting qb position next pre-season?  What if the Broncos shock the world and beat the Steelers?  No matter what would happen in the next round of the playoffs, I think Tebow cements the starting job for Week 1 next season with a W this weekend.

If the Broncos have a chance this week, it will be their defense that gives it to them. They are playing a team with no running back and a QB with one and a half legs. If Von Miller is still in that cast, it won't be good for them. Their nickel defense had been run all over since his injury and the Steelers run out of a lot of 3 wide sets.

What are the current odds that Harrison gets a personal foul for a hit on Timmy? Even money?

rayd - 2012-01-03 8:14 PM Something to ponder for the Tebow/Bronco haters...seems that most everyone is not giving Denver any shot at all to win at home this weekend.  Surely Fox is hearing the same comments.  maybe he starts Quinn and continues to use him in passing situations?  Not so far out there when you consider he has changed the offense to better fit Tebow.  What's there to lose when all the experts say you will lose anyway?  While the steeler's may not respect the throwing game of Denver this would surely open some things up.  And if it was enough to keep the game close...say maybe Denver within 14 in the 4th, we all know what Tebow can do when the other team is guessing.  I kind of like Denver's chances.  Shoot...maybe Tebow will have his best come from behind victory of his career.  It's going to be fun to watch!

Maybe, it's possible, a girl can dream.... it isn't probable. On paper Steelers are going to eat them alive. I don't hate my team, I'm just a realist. And yes... we all know... "that's why they play the game"... but this isn't Tebows game to win or loose... it's Denver's... and Denver simply does not match up with the Steelers on paper.

The same thing happened with Shanahan, and the same thing happened with McDaniels... teams simply have no film on you and have no way to game plan you... you get away with some stuff and win some games... later in the season teams have film and every game is important... winning streak comes to an end.

I like what I saw this season. We have some good players, we are still rebuilding. If the Broncos have a single brain cell in the whole organization they will spend every second in the off season  working with Tebow and either make him or break him. Nobody can deny he is a stand up guy and a exciting player. We will see if he can be a QB in the NFL.