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2011-04-20 7:20 AM
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2011-04-20 11:59 AM
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jgerbodegrant - 2011-04-20 6:51 AM Hey guys.  I know you've been pushing for the black braking surface.  Very cool, IMO.  What exactly is this surface?  Paint/epoxy?  Have you evaluated braking in wet conditions with this surface?  I'd assume it would be similar to a carbon clincher....slightly less friction than an aluminum rim.  Any thoughts?

 

Anodized aluminum. Surface is harder and more durable than plain aluminum. No difference in friction.

2011-04-20 12:08 PM
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Count me in on the group buy, 60 front & rear.
2011-04-20 12:30 PM
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Rickz - 2011-04-20 12:59 PM

jgerbodegrant - 2011-04-20 6:51 AM Hey guys.  I know you've been pushing for the black braking surface.  Very cool, IMO.  What exactly is this surface?  Paint/epoxy?  Have you evaluated braking in wet conditions with this surface?  I'd assume it would be similar to a carbon clincher....slightly less friction than an aluminum rim.  Any thoughts?

 

Anodized aluminum. Surface is harder and more durable than plain aluminum. No difference in friction.

Whoa whoa whoa...this changes everything.  Do I hear color options in the future?

2011-04-20 12:34 PM
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Rickz - 2011-04-20 12:59 PM

jgerbodegrant - 2011-04-20 6:51 AM Hey guys.  I know you've been pushing for the black braking surface.  Very cool, IMO.  What exactly is this surface?  Paint/epoxy?  Have you evaluated braking in wet conditions with this surface?  I'd assume it would be similar to a carbon clincher....slightly less friction than an aluminum rim.  Any thoughts?

 

Anodized aluminum. Surface is harder and more durable than plain aluminum. No difference in friction.

Whoa whoa whoa...this changes everything.  Do I hear color options in the future?



It will wear off and you will have a shinny rim just like you have now.
2011-04-20 12:57 PM
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jhouse4 - 2011-04-20 1:34 PM
jgerbodegrant - 2011-04-20 12:30 PM
Rickz - 2011-04-20 12:59 PM

jgerbodegrant - 2011-04-20 6:51 AM Hey guys.  I know you've been pushing for the black braking surface.  Very cool, IMO.  What exactly is this surface?  Paint/epoxy?  Have you evaluated braking in wet conditions with this surface?  I'd assume it would be similar to a carbon clincher....slightly less friction than an aluminum rim.  Any thoughts?

 

Anodized aluminum. Surface is harder and more durable than plain aluminum. No difference in friction.

Whoa whoa whoa...this changes everything.  Do I hear color options in the future?



It will wear off and you will have a shinny rim just like you have now.

Not necessarily....if it's not dyed and sealed, it will likely be hard...and the mating surface is rubber.  Much softer material.  I bet it lasts a long time.



2011-04-20 1:04 PM
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jgerbodegrant - 2011-04-20 12:57 PM
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jgerbodegrant - 2011-04-20 12:30 PM
Rickz - 2011-04-20 12:59 PM

jgerbodegrant - 2011-04-20 6:51 AM Hey guys.  I know you've been pushing for the black braking surface.  Very cool, IMO.  What exactly is this surface?  Paint/epoxy?  Have you evaluated braking in wet conditions with this surface?  I'd assume it would be similar to a carbon clincher....slightly less friction than an aluminum rim.  Any thoughts?

 

Anodized aluminum. Surface is harder and more durable than plain aluminum. No difference in friction.

Whoa whoa whoa...this changes everything.  Do I hear color options in the future?



It will wear off and you will have a shinny rim just like you have now.

Not necessarily....if it's not dyed and sealed, it will likely be hard...and the mating surface is rubber.  Much softer material.  I bet it lasts a long time.



Quoted from post Chis made on Slowtwitch...

"We are considering keeping the brake tracks anodized. Our only fear is that people may not be happy when they wear off. "
2011-04-20 1:39 PM
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jgerbodegrant - 2011-04-20 4:51 AM Hey guys.  I know you've been pushing for the black braking surface.  Very cool, IMO.  What exactly is this surface?  Paint/epoxy?  Have you evaluated braking in wet conditions with this surface?  I'd assume it would be similar to a carbon clincher....slightly less friction than an aluminum rim.  Any thoughts?

 

Those are great questions.  With the testing that we have done to date most people have commented that the anodizing improves braking if anything.  They feel "grabbier".  One tester said they would be his first choice in rainy conditions.  

I'll leave the explanation of anodizing up to wikipedia.  Here is the definition from their site...

 

Anodizing, or anodising in British English, is an electrolytic passivation process used to increase the thickness of the natural oxidelayer on the surface of metal parts. The process is called "anodizing" because the part to be treated forms the anode electrode of anelectrical circuit. Anodizing increases corrosion resistance and wear resistance, and provides better adhesion for paint primers and glues than does bare metal. Anodic films can also be used for a number of cosmetic effects, either with thick porous coatings that can absorb dyes or with thin transparent coatings that add interference effects to reflected light. Anodizing is also used to prevent galling of threaded components and to make dielectric films for electrolytic capacitors. Anodic films are most commonly applied to protectaluminium alloys, although processes also exist for titaniumzincmagnesiumniobium, and tantalum. This process is not a useful treatment for iron or carbon steel because these metals exfoliate when oxidized; i.e., the iron oxide (also known as rust) forms by pits and flakes, these flakes both fall off as well as trap oxygen-bearing moisture, constantly exposing the underlying metal to corrosion.

Anodization changes the microscopic texture of the surface and changes the crystal structure of the metal near the surface. Thick coatings are normally porous, so a sealing process is often needed to achieve corrosion resistance. Anodized aluminium surfaces, for example, are harder than aluminium but have low to moderate wear resistance that can be improved with increasing thickness or by applying suitable sealing substances. Anodic films are generally much stronger and more adherent than most types of paint and metal plating, but also more brittle. This makes them less likely to crack and peel from aging and wear, but more susceptible to cracking from thermal stress.

 

I hope that helps,

 

2011-04-20 1:40 PM
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camaleon - 2011-04-20 5:20 AM me want wheels PRONTO!

 

Haha.  Thanks.  Trust me... we are doing everything in our power to get these wheels to market as soon as possible.  

 

All the best,

2011-04-20 1:41 PM
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bdesotell - 2011-04-20 10:08 AM Count me in on the group buy, 60 front & rear.

 

Thanks for the support.  We appreciate it.

 

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2011-04-20 1:42 PM
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jgerbodegrant - 2011-04-20 6:51 AM Hey guys.  I know you've been pushing for the black braking surface.  Very cool, IMO.  What exactly is this surface?  Paint/epoxy?  Have you evaluated braking in wet conditions with this surface?  I'd assume it would be similar to a carbon clincher....slightly less friction than an aluminum rim.  Any thoughts?

 

Anodized aluminum. Surface is harder and more durable than plain aluminum. No difference in friction.

Whoa whoa whoa...this changes everything.  Do I hear color options in the future?

That is a MAYBE at this point.  For right now we are focusing on black only.  Custom sticker are much easier to stock than custom rims

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jgerbodegrant - 2011-04-20 12:30 PM
Rickz - 2011-04-20 12:59 PM

jgerbodegrant - 2011-04-20 6:51 AM Hey guys.  I know you've been pushing for the black braking surface.  Very cool, IMO.  What exactly is this surface?  Paint/epoxy?  Have you evaluated braking in wet conditions with this surface?  I'd assume it would be similar to a carbon clincher....slightly less friction than an aluminum rim.  Any thoughts?

 

Anodized aluminum. Surface is harder and more durable than plain aluminum. No difference in friction.

Whoa whoa whoa...this changes everything.  Do I hear color options in the future?



It will wear off and you will have a shinny rim just like you have now.

 

All of our testing to date has yet to show any wear.  That's not to say that  you will never see wear but it's holding up great so far.  

 

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2011-04-20 1:56 PM
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jgerbodegrant - 2011-04-20 10:57 AM
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jgerbodegrant - 2011-04-20 12:30 PM
Rickz - 2011-04-20 12:59 PM

jgerbodegrant - 2011-04-20 6:51 AM Hey guys.  I know you've been pushing for the black braking surface.  Very cool, IMO.  What exactly is this surface?  Paint/epoxy?  Have you evaluated braking in wet conditions with this surface?  I'd assume it would be similar to a carbon clincher....slightly less friction than an aluminum rim.  Any thoughts?

 

Anodized aluminum. Surface is harder and more durable than plain aluminum. No difference in friction.

Whoa whoa whoa...this changes everything.  Do I hear color options in the future?



It will wear off and you will have a shinny rim just like you have now.

Not necessarily....if it's not dyed and sealed, it will likely be hard...and the mating surface is rubber.  Much softer material.  I bet it lasts a long time.

For those who are interested, we are getting our first official review done by tririg.com.  It should be ready soon.  We can't wait!

2011-04-20 2:07 PM
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Sweet, definitely interested.  Keep us posted.  I suppose I don't really care if it's just the shiny aluminum surface, but I bet it takes a while.  I would be using these for my roadie...so I would be using my brakes a lot more than my tri bike.  I'll do a little homemade test on an anodized part at home using a dremel and a bike brake.  I'll let you know how that turns out.
2011-04-20 3:19 PM
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Wow, very excited about wheels like this at a price point like this. 
2011-04-20 4:35 PM
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wannanorseman - 2011-04-20 1:19 PM Wow, very excited about wheels like this at a price point like this. 

Thanks for the support.  We are very happy that you are liking what you see.

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2011-04-21 9:37 AM
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personally, i think the disc will never see wear, if you are having little to no wear on the front test wheels, i think the rear disc hardly ever sees the use or braking of a front wheel and should remain black for a long time. 

At least i hardly ever use the rear brake in a race, and realistically, other than some training miles prior to a race, who uses a disc as an every day wheel??

and we all know, black is faster...ask anyone...LOL!!!

2011-04-28 12:45 PM
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I thought you guys might be interested in reading our first professional review from TriRig.com.  We are really excited about it.

In total there is a review, video review and Interview!

http://bit.ly/lmE3Za

2011-04-28 1:48 PM
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that's a pretty convincing review.  congrats.  wasn't planning on new wheels, but i'm starting to reconsider.
2011-04-28 2:07 PM
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chris, thanks for review.  looks fantastic.  disc disc disc....   i can't wait.
2011-04-28 2:10 PM
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I would sell my body just to get a pair of Flo 90mm right now!!!


2011-04-28 2:37 PM
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trix - 2011-04-28 3:07 PM chris, thanks for review.  looks fantastic.  disc disc disc....   i can't wait.

 

x2,

i needed a reason to go all clincher TT race wheels, i think i have found it.

2011-04-28 3:14 PM
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scottuf - 2011-04-28 11:48 AM that's a pretty convincing review.  congrats.  wasn't planning on new wheels, but i'm starting to reconsider.

 

Haha.  Thanks for the compliment!

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trix - 2011-04-28 12:07 PM chris, thanks for review.  looks fantastic.  disc disc disc....   i can't wait.

 

Thanks trix!

2011-04-28 3:15 PM
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yarislab - 2011-04-28 12:10 PM I would sell my body just to get a pair of Flo 90mm right now!!!

Hahaha!  I must say you are the first one to say that!  Thanks for the support.

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