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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() stevebradley - 2010-03-08 7:39 AM DENISE - Those are massive time improvements!!! And I think that with successive efforts in Le Suit you will see even bigger improvements. Was there anything about the wetsuit that you didn't like, or that didn't feel right? There is no mention of phoning 911 to be extricated from it ("And bring the Jaws of Life, please, as it's REALLY tight!"), so that's a good thing, eh? And how many "What the ....?" looks did you receive? (Don't mind them, they're just the unenlightened cretins!) SteveB, I do have one major problem with the wetsuit. I've practiced putting it on and taking it off and I've gotten much better at it EXCEPT I can't get it off over my feet. Maybe because I have big feet (?) or maybe because it's small (?). I put a plastic bag over my foot when I put it on and that works great - but I have a heck of a time getting it off. I can get it down around my ankles pretty easily - then I'm stuck. I've tried stepping on the wetsuit and trying to pull my foot out but it just doesn't work. I really need to resolve this problem because if I don't, it negates my time saved in the water. Maybe I shouldn't have the legs pulled up so high. I have the bottom of the leg portion about 4" above my ankle. I also had a small problem with the cord. I left it just hanging and it wrapped around my arm and caused some stroke problems. But I should be able to resolve that by fastening the cord. I didn't really have a problem with people staring at me when I tried it at the pool. I picked the least busy time for the lap pool. There were 2 other people there but one was dog-paddling and the other was just exercising so I actually felt kind of cool. I had the life guard zip me up - the wetsuit instructions said it's better to have someone else zip you up if possible. So Steve - how far do you live from the city? We live in a small town and have to travel 30 miles to a somewhat bigger town for restaurants and a little culture (although not much). Denise |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() smarx - 2010-03-07 4:50 PM Lisa, congrats on the PR Also, I do not recall who had the Chile connection, but I am glad to hear everyone minus a grandmother made it through the big one OK. Have the aftershocks caused any issues? I see they just had a mid 6 - 45 minutes ago.. Things are so far OK, even with the aftershocks, thanks for asking. My buddy Nick is back in the States (today!), so overall, things turned out much better than they could have. Thanks for asking. Cheers, Mandy |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() stevebradley - 2010-03-08 9:13 AM MANDY - There's tight, and then there's TIGHT -- and those measurements come across as REALLY TIGHT! But the re-aligning adjustments you have made seem to have paid off, as evidenced by the pain-free 13-miler, so that must be making you feel positively divine! Road camber is a bugger, potentially a very big problem. But let me get this straight - if you are running facing traffic, don't you mean that your right side is higher? Your right shoulder is facing the one that's closest to the cenetr of the road, yes? Anyhow, getting back to cambered roads, they can pose big problems for anyone, but especailly for people who tend to underpronate. And when you say that it's your left side that is tight, and that the tightness starts at your hips, then that can predispose you to iliotibial band problems - I think. If you can, try to switch roads, or even sides of the road, as often as you can. That doesn't mean wavering back-and-forth, but mmaybe a mile at a time per side. The problem I have in doing this is that I run so often facing traffic that it feels really weird to switch over to the other side of a road (with the traffic coming from behind me). I have a lot of isolated roads around where I live, and even when I consciously head over to "the other side" of the road, I often find myself a few minutes later having drifted back to my normal side. I'm not aware of having done it or even thought about it; it might be a bit like a homing pigeon? ![]() Glad to see you are back, sorry the past couple of days were tough ones for you and your family. Ha, you know, you are right! My right side is up higher....there goes that theory! That is funny. Where I ran my 13 I was able to run on the "wrong" side of the road because it was all on back roads near my parents - and I had to force myself over there just like you said, it felt wrong, and I just naturally kept drifting back. Re: Calf - Stretching 4x/day (the 4 stretches the PT showed me) has helped a lot. I see PT again tomorrow to check improvement, and work on IT band. Apparently I am all scrunched up on my left side, but not so much on my right....weird. The good news is, I think it is workable without having to disrupt training and will help avoid future issues. Re: 13 miler. I ran at a slower pace than I would have liked, but there was a monster of a hill from mile 6-7.5 that kicked my butt, and some friendly huskies came out of nowhere and I just had to pet them because they were cute. And then I had to send them home, wherever that was (lots of farmhouses around). Plus I consciously started out slowly, still babying the calf a little. But I really want to get back to the speed I was at pre-injury without causing another injury. Oh yeah, I need to finish work now! ![]() Cheers, Mandy |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() thall0672 - 2010-03-08 11:35 AM General question to the group about your training schedules: For those of you who work full time, how do you fit it all in?? I work full time, but am EXTREMELY lucky in that I work from home and have a very flexible schedule. I always train during the day and will usually make up the work time later in the afternoons or at night after my son is in bed. I think my work schedule is going to get quite a bit busier in the coming weeks though, so I'm afraid I may have to either cut down or find other times to train (which is a challenge with a young son and a husband that works crazy off-hours). How do you all do it? (STEVEA: I know you train every morning at the crack of dawn! I just don't see myself being able to do that. Most of the time I can't anyway because my husband is at work early mornings, and I need to be home with my son. I suppose I could get on the treadmill in the basement though...) I'd love to hear how everyone works it in. Thanks! Tracey I am an AM girl, although when I work at home, I try to do my runs during my lunch break...especially in the winter to take advantage of the warmth, if it is there. In the summer, I try to get my run in at the crack of dawn because the heat kills me, and then I ride after work...Long runs/rides/swims are for weekends...at least for me. |
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Master![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() TRACEY, When I was a working outside the home I would always do my swims before work. Fortunately we have a pool that is open for lane swims at 5:30 a.m. and I would be there by 5:45-6:00 a.m. In the winter months I would also cycle in the mornings at the gym or on the trainer at home but come nice weather runs and cycling were always after work. Had to use lunches to run errands that I would normally do after work. It took alot of organizational skills to make it happen but I enjoyed it because I never lost focus on why I was doing tris - for FUN and FITNESS. Now that I am retired, I really don't find it that much easier trying to fit the training in. I do have more flexibility but spend more time now doing all the things I had no time for when I worked outside the home. They are really going to have to come up with a better word for when you stopped getting paid for working. ![]() Best of luck with your scheduling. ![]() |
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Regular ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() SteveB, welcome back. It will take awhile to adjust, and for some reason it always hits us harder than we expect, even when we are expecting it. I have not run yet, looking at nice weather tomorrow so hopefully I can do a short run outside. When I can "feel" my sciatica, I have some twinges and tenderness when I move a certain way but not the continuous pain. This is still a major miracle given the pain I was in last Monday. |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() smarx - 2010-03-08 1:07 PM "Simply put, no spouse/significant other or kids or any other sort of family commitment." Oh, that sounds so awesome! ![]() Tracey |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I generally get up around 6 am, get ready for work, get my 11 year old up and ready for school, and leave the house about 7:15 am ... get home around 4:45 pm and try to cook some dinner. My 11 year old doesn't like to stay by himself, so I usually have to wait until my husband gets home around 6:45 pm or if one of my older kids is around, I might be able to get a run in earlier. A lot of times I go ahead and eat, so I'm not trying to work out on a full stomach. Once things settle down, I take off for the gym, or set up my trainer in front of the TV ... usually not until after 8:00 pm (I try to go ahead and get ready to go, so I don't rethink about how tired I am!). If we've got baseball, or something else going on, I just double up on a workout over the weekend, like I did this week. It would be really tough with a younger one I would think. What time does he get to bed? ... can you do your workouts then? Now that my kids are older, I just decided it was time to put myself first every once in awhile ... and my family has slowly grown accustomed to that, and now just ask when I'm going and when I'll be back. I wish I could get my DH to go to the gym with me, but not very successful at this point. Lisa |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() DENISE - Are you lubricating your calves/ankles/heels? Either BodyGlide or PAM? Lots? (And remember -- NO Vaseline, which eats neoprene. Actually, any petroleum-based lubricant is bad for neoprene.) The good thing about your problem (which, by the way, is shared by countless wetsuit-wearers) is that it is easy to practice at. All you really need to do is get the wetsuit on no further than your kness, and then work at forcing it down. My preferred technique is to force both hands down until my fingers are about at my ankles - and then continuing to force them further down while at the same time fulcruming my forearms outward a bit so the overall opening gets larger. Once I have one foot free I can either repeat the process with the other foot, or stand up and stand on the neoprene wad around the still-encased foot and yank that foot free. Beyond this, I vary as to my stance. I'd say it's 50/50 -- half the time kneeling with the leg I am not working on, and half the time in a bent-over position. I'm not sure why I decide one way one time and the other way the other time; maybe it varies according to which suit I am wearing. (Honestly, I cannot picture this right now!) One final bit of advice -- if none of the above workwell enough, try a double-layer approach -- BodyGlide first, and then PAM on top of that. And thinking one step further, spray PAM on the OUTSIDE of the suit from the knees down. This will make it easier for the suit to slide over itself, which is what it has to do during the final phase of forcing it past your feet. (And with PAM, go for the "original" flavor; I'm sure crawfish must find the flavored varieties too yummy to resist. Clack, clack! ![]() |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Shaun, That website about bike maintenance is pretty cool. Thanks for posting it ![]() Kasia |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() STEVEB, I have a question with regards to the runs suggested in the Fitzerald Olympic-distance plans. I'm a very slow runner who likes things written out specifically, hence liking the Fitz workouts. BUT, he doesn't really break down his runs (at least in the beginning) into walk/run things, which is what I was planning on doing. Instead, I was thinking of following a 13-week Couch to 10k plan that I can't find the proper link to, so here's someone's who's written it out. (http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_individual.asp?blog_id=1462924). Essentially it outlines walk/run stuffs and finishes off with a 10k run at the end. I was thinking of doing the runs per the C210K especially during the build periods of the Fitz plan, and then adding the intervals and hills Fitz suggests to the run portions of the C210K plan. Most of the times/distances overlap pretty nicely so I wouldn't be missing out on anything time-wise. It'd essentially be the Fitz plan amended to follow a Galloway approach (Look at me, namedropping like a pro ![]() Does that even make sense? And would it be ok? Or should I try to follow something more along the lines of what Fitz suggests? I know you said all this is an art, so I'm making my own thing to suit my running needs. Hopefully it's correct ![]() Thanks, Kasia |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Tracey, I also work from home and so can throw in a workout here and there. When I do go into the office/am super busy with work, I tend to go in the mornings, otherwise I won't peel myself off the couch after getting home. I'm also single and childless so I don't have the same responsibilities as most of the bunch, making it much easier to find time to train. Even so, some days are busier than others workout-wise due to rugby practices and soccer games, so those days I tend to workout in the mornings so I don't have to worry about finding the motivation to do tri stuff back-to-back with the sports stuff. Kasia |
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Master![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() thall0672 - 2010-03-08 11:08 AM latestarter - 2010-03-07 2:32 PM Hi Anne: No, I've never had anyone look at my calves. Maybe I'll try massaging them before my runs and see if that helps. By the way, where is the FHL?? Thanks! Tracey I was wondering TRACEY, if you have had anyone look at your calves to see if there is any tightness there? Maybe a massage or two would help. TRACEY, Here is a link that talks about Flexor Hallucis longus. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flexor_hallucis_longus_muscle Hopefully, you can make sense of it. If I find any others that do a good job of explaining or providing diagrams, I will let you know. |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() augeremt - 2010-03-09 1:40 AM PAM? Like the cooking spray? Yup! PAM the cooking spray, any flavor. ![]() Also, a trick to get the suit off your ankles that I use (along with body glide around my ankles) is to push it down past your knees, and then take the left foot, and step on the right leg of the wetsuit, as close as you can to the entrapped right leg. Pull your right leg straight up, with some force. My leg usually pops out of the suit, sometimes I have to do it twice. Then repeat with other leg....Like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brHcsqKM_mo Cheers, Mandy |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() latestarter - 2010-03-09 7:25 AM TRACEY, THAT is so COOL!!! Thanks for posting. I love how you can dissect the calf! Cheers, Mandy |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() MANDY - Just the person I wanted to see here! I'm doing this quickly, as Lynn is back today, and home today, and will be on the computer a lot. But..... Thinking back to camber thoughts, it makes LOTS of sense that it's your left leg/hip that are tight if you run facing traffic -- the leg that is lowest receives the brunt of the camber-effects. And if you naturally under-pronate, that will exacerbate the problem. (Do I remember you saying that you wear neutral shoes?) |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Back to square 1 Chiro did not help, pain has moved down from waist to hip area. Just walked 2 miles yesterday on treadmill and pain is worse than before. I don't really think it is the shoes since i noticed a slight pain right after I woke up. Any ideas? |
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Hey all, and welcome back STEVE B! Interesting day or so. Got in late on Sunday, so yesterday I did a trainer ride after work so I could sleep in a bit. I can't recall when it happened, but my left foot is extremely tender and I'm limping like crazy. Basically, any pressure on the big toe (flexing from walking/running) is very painful around the big padded area of the foot. It's not sore to the touch, but to walk or run is very uncomfortable. Problem is, I can't for the life of me remember what I did to it, or when exactly it started to hurt. Maybe it was a gradual thing and I'm just noticing it. Hopefully it goes away. Anyway, unable to run this AM, I slept in again (I love me the sleep) and will swim after work today - likely doing a longer 1.5 hour session. Yesterday, I did have a good trainer session. I did the Spinnervals DVD on Threshold training. Basic 20-minutes of warming up followed by a 20-minute threshold time trail and then a cool down. Man, that SUCKED! Luckily, I was home alone when I did it, because I'm not ashamed to say I was loudly whimpering for the last 5 minutes trying to maintain the cadence/speed. I don't think I've ever been as uncomfortable as that, ever. So, when they say, "leave it all on the bike", I certainly did that. Average HR: 167, max HR: 177. I need to do some searching on the web to find a calculator to feed that data into to get my HR zones for the bike based on the test. Other than that, it's pool, ice the foot and hope that I can at least ride the trainer until the pain goes away in the paws. |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() stevebradley - 2010-03-09 10:05 AM MANDY - Just the person I wanted to see here! I'm doing this quickly, as Lynn is back today, and home today, and will be on the computer a lot. But..... Thinking back to camber thoughts, it makes LOTS of sense that it's your left leg/hip that are tight if you run facing traffic -- the leg that is lowest receives the brunt of the camber-effects. And if you naturally under-pronate, that will exacerbate the problem. (Do I remember you saying that you wear neutral shoes?) Hey you got me! It totally makes sense now. Crazy how little things cause so many problems. Back to PT again today, she said that flexibility was much improved and she gave me some new stuff to do. Calf is still a little achy after a run, but much improved over a few weeks ago. Mandy |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Dwayne - bummer about your back. So sorry to hear you are still having trouble. Can you get a PT appointment? A friend of mine had back problems and PT really helped. Steve A - Ahhh the torture-fests with Coach Troy. My favorite part of his videos is when he says 3....2....11111111 - great riding! Cheers, Mandy |
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