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 plus there is a little "Pad" factor here.

Well, if that's the case, I just had Taco Cabana. Thanks to this thread.



Live on the edge Haley!!
Yeah, well, maybe I'll get food poisoning and get to race weight


Not funny

But we had Mexican tonight too!!


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Just got back from the Woodlands with my wife.  We did a loop on the run course so she could be familiar with it.  The weather is absolutely fantastic right now!!!

We were over on Market Street and walked past the Lululemon and they had up some frosted glass by the store entrance with all of the IMTX participants on it.  My wife snapped a pic, it is pretty cool go check it out when you get into town:

 

Check out the picture of the swimmer in the window. I heard he hangs out on bt....
2011-05-14 9:44 PM
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Swapping my race wheel for training wheel this morning for a ride, the bike shifted and the seat hit a nerve or something in my jaw/neck. Wtf? Now swollen, it hurts to turn my head or chew. Go figure. Here I've been trying not to step on my kid's toys, and I should have watching for a bike to the jaw. Watch your step out there! Or in my case, watch for falling bikes!
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Its always the stupid little things that can screw up a race.

Found this video on Slowtwitch. Thought it might amuse some of you during this taper period!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqRAX1uB2KY
2011-05-14 10:04 PM
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That is awesome. I know at least 5 people in the top picture which is a great reminder of how many familiar faces are going to be out there.

I've been too wrapped up in non-ironman life to start to get excited about the race, but for some reason, knowing my name is on the lululemon window has got me fired up :-)
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Catwoman - 2011-05-14 10:59 PM Its always the stupid little things that can screw up a race. Found this video on Slowtwitch. Thought it might amuse some of you during this taper period! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqRAX1uB2KY

LOL!That's hilarious!

"but I haven't been in zone 3 in 17 days!"



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Catwoman - 2011-05-14 9:59 PM Its always the stupid little things that can screw up a race. Found this video on Slowtwitch. Thought it might amuse some of you during this taper period! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqRAX1uB2KY[/QUOTE]

 

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Now that is seriously funny .  LOL!!!!!  I watched it twice.

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tjfry - 2011-05-14 9:44 PM Swapping my race wheel for training wheel this morning for a ride, the bike shifted and the seat hit a nerve or something in my jaw/neck. Wtf? Now swollen, it hurts to turn my head or chew. Go figure. Here I've been trying not to step on my kid's toys, and I should have watching for a bike to the jaw. Watch your step out there! Or in my case, watch for falling bikes!

Damn! More the reason for me to put off cutting the yard tomorrow then.  I was thinking about it today, but left it alone.  This is enough reason for me to let it go tomorrow again.Laughing

Handling a lawn mower, weed eater, shrub trimmer and blower....hmmmm.. to many possibilities.

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tjfry - 2011-05-14 9:44 PM Swapping my race wheel for training wheel this morning for a ride, the bike shifted and the seat hit a nerve or something in my jaw/neck. Wtf? Now swollen, it hurts to turn my head or chew. Go figure. Here I've been trying not to step on my kid's toys, and I should have watching for a bike to the jaw. Watch your step out there! Or in my case, watch for falling bikes!

Damn! More the reason for me to put off cutting the yard tomorrow then.  I was thinking about it today, but left it alone.  This is enough reason for me to let it go tomorrow again.Laughing

Handling a lawn mower, weed eater, shrub trimmer and blower....hmmmm.. to many possibilities.

Your usual suspects are dangerous. However, what about things like: holes/uneven ground, bees, poison ivy, allergies. dehydration, toomuchwalking/workingonyourmesseduphip, something flying up from the mower or weed eater and scratching your cornea...SO MANY THINGS! 

Stay on the couch!

2011-05-15 7:36 AM
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tjfry - 2011-05-14 9:44 PM Swapping my race wheel for training wheel this morning for a ride, the bike shifted and the seat hit a nerve or something in my jaw/neck. Wtf? Now swollen, it hurts to turn my head or chew. Go figure. Here I've been trying not to step on my kid's toys, and I should have watching for a bike to the jaw. Watch your step out there! Or in my case, watch for falling bikes!

Damn! More the reason for me to put off cutting the yard tomorrow then.  I was thinking about it today, but left it alone.  This is enough reason for me to let it go tomorrow again.Laughing

Handling a lawn mower, weed eater, shrub trimmer and blower....hmmmm.. to many possibilities.

Your usual suspects are dangerous. However, what about things like: holes/uneven ground, bees, poison ivy, allergies. dehydration, toomuchwalking/workingonyourmesseduphip, something flying up from the mower or weed eater and scratching your cornea...SO MANY THINGS! 

Stay on the couch!



Great advice.  I think I will take it!
2011-05-15 8:08 AM
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My wife thought that, since I wouldn't be spending all day yesterday on the bike, it would be a good day to have 20-yds of mulch delivered. I can confirm that 20-yds is a huge pile. I told here that work like that was not in my taper plan. She told me, "HTFU....that mulch isn't going to spead itself!" Took me 8-1/2 hours of shovel/wheel barrow time to get it all spread. If I had to work like that for a living, there's no way I'd be able to maintain my figure!



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M*ther F8@3ers Residence Inn. I am FED UP with them. About to cancel completely.

First after bumping my TWO rooms to the other hotel (that were prepaid), I "negotiated" with them in March to let me keep one room. Now I get the confirmation email and they have me checking out on Saturday instead of Sunday. Of course I have the original email confirming my TWO rooms checking out on Sunday. 

I am LIVID. Absolutely livid. I called the front desk and they are checking into it and into who changed it. I told her the name of the person, the General Manager. I want to cancel completely, but I know they'll fill the room anyway, it won't hurt them a bit. 

What do I do? Yelling at the front desk person won't help, it wasn't her fault. 

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2011-05-15 1:21 PM
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M*ther F8@3ers Residence Inn. I am FED UP with them. About to cancel completely.

First after bumping my TWO rooms to the other hotel (that were prepaid), I "negotiated" with them in March to let me keep one room. Now I get the confirmation email and they have me checking out on Saturday instead of Sunday. Of course I have the original email confirming my TWO rooms checking out on Sunday. 

I am LIVID. Absolutely livid. I called the front desk and they are checking into it and into who changed it. I told her the name of the person, the General Manager. I want to cancel completely, but I know they'll fill the room anyway, it won't hurt them a bit. 

What do I do? Yelling at the front desk person won't help, it wasn't her fault. 

GGGRRRRR>

This is happening way to much from what I have been seeing on this thread.  I am going to check my damn reservation at the Woodlands Restort, just to make sure.  Can they really just do this to so many people?  It's really ridiculous.

2011-05-15 1:31 PM
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Went a bit against the grain today.  Did a short 30.60 mile ride on the wheels just to see at what pace I can handle now, without to much pain.  I didn't want to just start blind on race day.  I managed without any real pain, this is a pace I can hold pretty comfortable.  But now my intake will be thrown off.  I trained at higher speeds, but am adjusting. 

Any advice as to dropping intake according to the new rate of speed and HR, or stick with my original?

30.60 mile ride in 1hr 42min - 18mph average - this was very, very comfortable and easy, average HR was 116 and I never once broke 123, that was my max going into serious headwind.

I was orginally training/preparing for 20mph + average and haveing the bike done in around 5:30 - 5:45 hrs.  But that was then.  Run I will play by ear when it comes, I am not even going to try that.

 

 

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Bridgeland, if you don't get an answer to your question here you may want to post your question on the Ironman training forum.

Went out for a short (by IM standards) 1.5 hour ride with a 30 minute run after. Came home and took a 2.5 hour nap. That is after sleeping in late this morning. Guess my body is really needing and taking advantage of this taper time.

Is anyone else having problems with allergies right now?
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Went a bit against the grain today.  Did a short 30.60 mile ride on the wheels just to see at what pace I can handle now, without to much pain.  I didn't want to just start blind on race day.  I managed without any real pain, this is a pace I can hold pretty comfortable.  But now my intake will be thrown off.  I trained at higher speeds, but am adjusting. 

Any advice as to dropping intake according to the new rate of speed and HR, or stick with my original?

30.60 mile ride in 1hr 42min - 18mph average - this was very, very comfortable and easy, average HR was 116 and I never once broke 123, that was my max going into serious headwind.

I was orginally training/preparing for 20mph + average and haveing the bike done in around 5:30 - 5:45 hrs.  But that was then.  Run I will play by ear when it comes, I am not even going to try that.

 

 



What were your goals pre injury...I know you said 20mph + but at what HR? Do you train by HR? Where you intending to avg b/t 116-123, and so you are saying you lost fitness? If so, that's kind of hard to believe. You should have enough built up to not see much of a fitness loss, especially because I remember you saying that you were still swimming and biking, just not running.

I would say stick to your pre-injury goals/race plan in regards to HR, and let the speed go from there, especially if you've been training by HR. Just ride your HR and let that guide you. I would guess and say that your training plans were to ride in Z2 and I would almost bet the farm that 116-123 is not your Z2. So, you can probably average faster than that if you were to push your HR. I say follow your original plan...I'm not sure when you got injured, but I think it was around the last week of peak into the first week of taper. During taper, your mileage would have come down anyway, so you shouldn't really expect to lose fitness.

Just my take.

Edit because I didn't read your entire post about pain...I would recommend the above IF you are pain free....IF you are in pain in Z2, personally, I would ride just fast enough to avoid pain....BUT I am kind of hard-headed...

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Went a bit against the grain today.  Did a short 30.60 mile ride on the wheels just to see at what pace I can handle now, without to much pain.  I didn't want to just start blind on race day.  I managed without any real pain, this is a pace I can hold pretty comfortable.  But now my intake will be thrown off.  I trained at higher speeds, but am adjusting. 

Any advice as to dropping intake according to the new rate of speed and HR, or stick with my original?

30.60 mile ride in 1hr 42min - 18mph average - this was very, very comfortable and easy, average HR was 116 and I never once broke 123, that was my max going into serious headwind.

I was orginally training/preparing for 20mph + average and haveing the bike done in around 5:30 - 5:45 hrs.  But that was then.  Run I will play by ear when it comes, I am not even going to try that.

 

 

What were your goals pre injury...I know you said 20mph + but at what HR? Do you train by HR? Where you intending to avg b/t 116-123, and so you are saying you lost fitness? If so, that's kind of hard to believe. You should have enough built up to not see much of a fitness loss, especially because I remember you saying that you were still swimming and biking, just not running. I would say stick to your pre-injury goals/race plan in regards to HR, and let the speed go from there, especially if you've been training by HR. Just ride your HR and let that guide you. I would guess and say that your training plans were to ride in Z2 and I would almost bet the farm that 116-123 is not your Z2. So, you can probably average faster than that if you were to push your HR. I say follow your original plan...I'm not sure when you got injured, but I think it was around the last week of peak into the first week of taper. During taper, your mileage would have come down anyway, so you shouldn't really expect to lose fitness. Just my take. Edit because I didn't read your entire post about pain...I would recommend the above IF you are pain free....IF you are in pain in Z2, personally, I would ride just fast enough to avoid pain....BUT I am kind of hard-headed...

Yeah pre-injury I was pushing between 20-22 mph average and HR was between 130 - 160.  Looking back at my Garmin logs, average HR would land around 135 - 137.  That was my range I was planning on staying in.  I pretty much  stayed in that range through out training and spiked sometimes into 166, but that was pushing 24mph at that point.  I was throwing in some stints at that speed. 

But today at 18mph and averaging 116 with HR and spiking at the most 123, felt way, way  easy, there were times that HR was 108 - 112 for a while.  Very little discomfort with the injury, but I didn't want to push it.  I may push at the race a bit more, but didnt want to today, just in case. 

I think I'll carry the nutrition as in training in case I open it up and get back to the plan, I'll gauge it by pain.  That is the only thing holding my pace back. 

Damn I cant wait till next weekend! 



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Went a bit against the grain today.  Did a short 30.60 mile ride on the wheels just to see at what pace I can handle now, without to much pain.  I didn't want to just start blind on race day.  I managed without any real pain, this is a pace I can hold pretty comfortable.  But now my intake will be thrown off.  I trained at higher speeds, but am adjusting. 

Any advice as to dropping intake according to the new rate of speed and HR, or stick with my original?

30.60 mile ride in 1hr 42min - 18mph average - this was very, very comfortable and easy, average HR was 116 and I never once broke 123, that was my max going into serious headwind.

I was orginally training/preparing for 20mph + average and haveing the bike done in around 5:30 - 5:45 hrs.  But that was then.  Run I will play by ear when it comes, I am not even going to try that.

 

 

What were your goals pre injury...I know you said 20mph + but at what HR? Do you train by HR? Where you intending to avg b/t 116-123, and so you are saying you lost fitness? If so, that's kind of hard to believe. You should have enough built up to not see much of a fitness loss, especially because I remember you saying that you were still swimming and biking, just not running. I would say stick to your pre-injury goals/race plan in regards to HR, and let the speed go from there, especially if you've been training by HR. Just ride your HR and let that guide you. I would guess and say that your training plans were to ride in Z2 and I would almost bet the farm that 116-123 is not your Z2. So, you can probably average faster than that if you were to push your HR. I say follow your original plan...I'm not sure when you got injured, but I think it was around the last week of peak into the first week of taper. During taper, your mileage would have come down anyway, so you shouldn't really expect to lose fitness. Just my take. Edit because I didn't read your entire post about pain...I would recommend the above IF you are pain free....IF you are in pain in Z2, personally, I would ride just fast enough to avoid pain....BUT I am kind of hard-headed...

Yeah pre-injury I was pushing between 20-22 mph average and HR was between 130 - 160.  Looking back at my Garmin logs, average HR would land around 135 - 137.  That was my range I was planning on staying in.  I pretty much  stayed in that range through out training and spiked sometimes into 166, but that was pushing 24mph at that point.  I was throwing in some stints at that speed. 

But today at 18mph and averaging 116 with HR and spiking at the most 123, felt way, way  easy, there were times that HR was 108 - 112 for a while.  Very little discomfort with the injury, but I didn't want to push it.  I may push at the race a bit more, but didnt want to today, just in case. 

I think I'll carry the nutrition as in training in case I open it up and get back to the plan, I'll gauge it by pain.  That is the only thing holding my pace back. 

Damn I cant wait till next weekend! 

Pedro you will do just fine...you are very strong and fast...but if you want to hang with my slow pace then come on, I could use the company...lol.....
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I have officially taken over the kitchen island with all my stuff. It is starting to migrate to the other counters. I see 4 nights of takeout before leaving Thursday morning.

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dodgersmom - 2011-05-15 5:31 PM I have officially taken over the kitchen island with all my stuff. It is starting to migrate to the other counters. I see 4 nights of takeout before leaving Thursday morning.

NICE!!!  Well done!   I dominated the formal dinning room table, nothing but TRI gear.  Actually I took the whole darn room.  My bike is in there on the bike mechanic stand, oil, lube, tool kit towels the whole shop.  It will be there this whole week, I want it to rest and hydrate, too hot in the garage, it needs to recover and taper as well.Laughing

 



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Dont take how you feel right now as an indicator for adjusting your race plan. Your 5 days out and feeling strong from the taper. Making adjustments due to the injury and making adjustments based on feeling strong are two different things. Dont let the taper lure you into a trap....a trap that will leave you on the side of the marathon course. 

Coming in with the injury you need to be conservative and plan accordingly. If your original plan was built on a healthy knee, and your knee is not healthy.....why try and execute the original. 

Its a long day and you will come to many forks in the road. To perform well you must have a road map, but also the mindset and lack of ego to deviate when needed. 

Sounds to me like you need to plan on being in the saddle a bit longer and be OK with that!

Just my two cents.

 

 



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Dont take how you feel right now as an indicator for adjusting your race plan. Your 5 days out and feeling strong from the taper. Making adjustments due to the injury and making adjustments based on feeling strong are two different things. Dont let the taper lure you into a trap....a trap that will leave you on the side of the marathon course. 

Coming in with the injury you need to be conservative and plan accordingly. If your original plan was built on a healthy knee, and your knee is not healthy.....why try and execute the original. 

Its a long day and you will come to many forks in the road. To perform well you must have a road map, but also the mindset and lack of ego to deviate when needed. 

Sounds to me like you need to plan on being in the saddle a bit longer and be OK with that!

Just my two cents.

 

 

 

Agree!  Original plan was with all pistons firing.  After all, what's another hour and change more in the saddle, like you said, it's going to be a looong one anyways.  Good luck to everyone! 

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Went a bit against the grain today.  Did a short 30.60 mile ride on the wheels just to see at what pace I can handle now, without to much pain.  I didn't want to just start blind on race day.  I managed without any real pain, this is a pace I can hold pretty comfortable.  But now my intake will be thrown off.  I trained at higher speeds, but am adjusting. 

Any advice as to dropping intake according to the new rate of speed and HR, or stick with my original?

30.60 mile ride in 1hr 42min - 18mph average - this was very, very comfortable and easy, average HR was 116 and I never once broke 123, that was my max going into serious headwind.

I was orginally training/preparing for 20mph + average and haveing the bike done in around 5:30 - 5:45 hrs.  But that was then.  Run I will play by ear when it comes, I am not even going to try that.

 

 

What were your goals pre injury...I know you said 20mph + but at what HR? Do you train by HR? Where you intending to avg b/t 116-123, and so you are saying you lost fitness? If so, that's kind of hard to believe. You should have enough built up to not see much of a fitness loss, especially because I remember you saying that you were still swimming and biking, just not running. I would say stick to your pre-injury goals/race plan in regards to HR, and let the speed go from there, especially if you've been training by HR. Just ride your HR and let that guide you. I would guess and say that your training plans were to ride in Z2 and I would almost bet the farm that 116-123 is not your Z2. So, you can probably average faster than that if you were to push your HR. I say follow your original plan...I'm not sure when you got injured, but I think it was around the last week of peak into the first week of taper. During taper, your mileage would have come down anyway, so you shouldn't really expect to lose fitness. Just my take. Edit because I didn't read your entire post about pain...I would recommend the above IF you are pain free....IF you are in pain in Z2, personally, I would ride just fast enough to avoid pain....BUT I am kind of hard-headed...

Yeah pre-injury I was pushing between 20-22 mph average and HR was between 130 - 160.  Looking back at my Garmin logs, average HR would land around 135 - 137.  That was my range I was planning on staying in.  I pretty much  stayed in that range through out training and spiked sometimes into 166, but that was pushing 24mph at that point.  I was throwing in some stints at that speed. 

But today at 18mph and averaging 116 with HR and spiking at the most 123, felt way, way  easy, there were times that HR was 108 - 112 for a while.  Very little discomfort with the injury, but I didn't want to push it.  I may push at the race a bit more, but didnt want to today, just in case. 

I think I'll carry the nutrition as in training in case I open it up and get back to the plan, I'll gauge it by pain.  That is the only thing holding my pace back. 

Damn I cant wait till next weekend! 

Pedro you will do just fine...you are very strong and fast...but if you want to hang with my slow pace then come on, I could use the company...lol.....

Your solid Will!  I believe you are going to do better than you think.  Your freash after the rides bro.  Can't wait to get after it!

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Went a bit against the grain today.  Did a short 30.60 mile ride on the wheels just to see at what pace I can handle now, without to much pain.  I didn't want to just start blind on race day.  I managed without any real pain, this is a pace I can hold pretty comfortable.  But now my intake will be thrown off.  I trained at higher speeds, but am adjusting. 

Any advice as to dropping intake according to the new rate of speed and HR, or stick with my original?

30.60 mile ride in 1hr 42min - 18mph average - this was very, very comfortable and easy, average HR was 116 and I never once broke 123, that was my max going into serious headwind.

I was orginally training/preparing for 20mph + average and haveing the bike done in around 5:30 - 5:45 hrs.  But that was then.  Run I will play by ear when it comes, I am not even going to try that.

 

 

What were your goals pre injury...I know you said 20mph + but at what HR? Do you train by HR? Where you intending to avg b/t 116-123, and so you are saying you lost fitness? If so, that's kind of hard to believe. You should have enough built up to not see much of a fitness loss, especially because I remember you saying that you were still swimming and biking, just not running. I would say stick to your pre-injury goals/race plan in regards to HR, and let the speed go from there, especially if you've been training by HR. Just ride your HR and let that guide you. I would guess and say that your training plans were to ride in Z2 and I would almost bet the farm that 116-123 is not your Z2. So, you can probably average faster than that if you were to push your HR. I say follow your original plan...I'm not sure when you got injured, but I think it was around the last week of peak into the first week of taper. During taper, your mileage would have come down anyway, so you shouldn't really expect to lose fitness. Just my take. Edit because I didn't read your entire post about pain...I would recommend the above IF you are pain free....IF you are in pain in Z2, personally, I would ride just fast enough to avoid pain....BUT I am kind of hard-headed...

 

I agree with andrew, ride as you trained. If pain creeps in, back it down to pain-free if possible.

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