Intro swimmer help (Page 2)
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2010-02-15 10:54 AM in reply to: #2671219 |
New user 5 | Subject: RE: Intro swimmer help As a former competitve and collegiate swimmer, you need to focus on two main things. Swimmers never swim flat. There is a constant rotation from side to side and kicking is vital. The kick comes from your core as well as your legs. Advantage of the pull bouy is that you are just focusing on your arms and this keeps you afloat. Disadvantage is that you are not learning how to motion w/ you kick side to side. You are losing your breath b/c you are kicking incorrectly and "fighting" the water. I definitely suggest finding either a coach or when you go to lap swim ask a person who is a former competitive swimmer. I've helped countless individuals when I go lap swim. |
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2010-02-15 11:12 AM in reply to: #2672085 |
74 | Subject: RE: Intro swimmer help Above all else, learn to breathe. I know it sounds simple but most beginners are out of breath because they don't fully exhale before inhaling, causing you to almost hyperventilate. |
2010-02-15 3:20 PM in reply to: #2672085 |
Extreme Veteran 417 Davidson | Subject: RE: Intro swimmer help BrandonCohen - 2010-02-14 7:15 AM Thanks to everyone who's posted, including my pushy roommates. I'll take all of your tips to the water with me, and will continue to work on my form and will include endurance workouts into the mix. I'm new to swimming, not training in general...so I'm not just jumping into the pool with no idea what on how I'm going to progress. Pauliewalnuts did compare swimming to golf (which i'll probably never play again because i'll be training): there are so many pieces that have to be put together properly before you have a nice stroke. So it's a lot to think about. A public message to my roommates: Jay - since you're a master workout planner...can you develop a swim program for me to work on endurance? Paulie - thanks for chastising me on a public forum instead of screaming at me while i sat on the couch...crying into my pint of ice cream. This must be some sort of commentary on Generation X. You guys all live in the same house, have your bikes set up for training 24" from one another, but you have to communicate over an internet chat room. When you see each other in the hall, do you speak? or do you just see another avatar approaching? Sounds like a dysfunctional family or something... ;-0 LOL, Greg |
2010-02-15 3:41 PM in reply to: #2671219 |
Member 35 Dallas, Texas | Subject: RE: Intro swimmer help www.swimplan.com Free site that formats programs based on your 1000M time trial updates. Do it. And I agree with someone on here who said don't speed through all your 25's. There is a difference between working on speed and working on endurance. Seriously check out the website. And I also agree with your roommate who said you can't swim 25 and rest at the end of the pool for 5 minutes. haha. You'll get there, it’s all about persistence. |
2010-02-15 8:50 PM in reply to: #2674036 |
Long Beach | Subject: RE: Intro swimmer help trinewby - 2010-02-15 3:20 PM BrandonCohen - 2010-02-14 7:15 AM Thanks to everyone who's posted, including my pushy roommates. I'll take all of your tips to the water with me, and will continue to work on my form and will include endurance workouts into the mix. I'm new to swimming, not training in general...so I'm not just jumping into the pool with no idea what on how I'm going to progress. Pauliewalnuts did compare swimming to golf (which i'll probably never play again because i'll be training): there are so many pieces that have to be put together properly before you have a nice stroke. So it's a lot to think about. A public message to my roommates: Jay - since you're a master workout planner...can you develop a swim program for me to work on endurance? Paulie - thanks for chastising me on a public forum instead of screaming at me while i sat on the couch...crying into my pint of ice cream. This must be some sort of commentary on Generation X. You guys all live in the same house, have your bikes set up for training 24" from one another, but you have to communicate over an internet chat room. When you see each other in the hall, do you speak? or do you just see another avatar approaching? Sounds like a dysfunctional family or something... ;-0 LOL, Greg So dysfunctional
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2010-02-15 8:58 PM in reply to: #2671219 |
Veteran 195 San Francisco | Subject: RE: Intro swimmer help Just to give you hope... Two months ago I hated the pool and thought I'd never be able to swim 50 yards without stopping. Well, yesterday and today, I felt I could have gone on forever. It does happen with time! My three one to one lessons from a coach, and continual practice are keeping me going and improving. You can do this too! |
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2010-02-16 1:58 PM in reply to: #2674551 |
Regular 57 New York | Subject: RE: Intro swimmer help Thanks for the motivation and encouragement. I did 4x 50 with a 20 second break on Saturday so that was a big step for me. I had some other questions I wanted to throw out there: I've been doing a lot of swimming with a pull buoy, and first thought was that I was doing myself a huge disservice. Than I thought that my eventual wetsuit will probably give the same amount of boyancy when in the water. What does everybody think about this? I suppose that I'll be that much better with the wetsuit when I've been training without...but will it hinder my progression a ton? Also, as a beginner, is a full suit or sleeveless reccommended? I would think I'd feel constricted with the full. I have a full for surfing, but can't picture doing a ton of swimming with full sleeves. Thoughts are much appreciated. |
2010-02-16 5:21 PM in reply to: #2671219 |
Master 3888 Overland Park, KS | Subject: RE: Intro swimmer help Maybe the more experienced can comment on this but here's my $0.02 worth on something I've been doing lately (I'm currently at a decision point in terms of which club to join for masters swimming). |
2010-02-16 7:00 PM in reply to: #2671219 |
New Haven, CT | Subject: RE: Intro swimmer help the total immersion DVD and book really helped me. |
2010-02-16 7:45 PM in reply to: #2676187 |
Veteran 344 Traverse City, MI | Subject: RE: Intro swimmer help reecealan - 2010-02-16 6:21 PMMy brother told me my form is "off" in terms of my left arm was extending out and not entering the water like my right arm. Anyhow what I did was use a pull bouy and slow way down. I then started the "drag the fingertips" drill. When bringing my arms back to the front I would keep my hands close to my body, trying to drag my fingertips along the water surface. Using the pull bouy allowed me to focus on my form etc.
That method is inspiring and very effective practice. It emphasizes Grace. If you can sustain Grace in your stroke as well as breathing, swimming can be practically effortless. Read the resources, but in a nut shell: Focus on a steady exhale out the nose and mouth before each breath. I like to hum or something - sort jam while I am swimming. Having the proper head position will help your buoyancy. Might help you ditch the thingamajig. |
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