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2010-10-20 11:01 AM

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Subject: Hucking on the run
Training hard for the HIM 13.1 run portion. I do 40 - 50 mile rides and 10 - 14 mile run brick workouts to get my body used to the transitions...still at around mile 7 this time I get really sick to my stomach and sometimes huck (vomit) with an amazing bout of nasuea proceeding. I felt hydrated (lots of water and sports drink and also had power gel and pretzels for carbs...no idea why this keeps happening...am I getting too anerobic and my body shunting the blood from the stomach or what? Any ideas on how to stop this, because after the huck and shuck my splits are TERRIBLE! (but I always finish the workout even if I have to walk a little ways)


2010-10-20 11:40 AM
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Subject: RE: Hucking on the run
Mmmm. I, or any of my workout friends, have never vomited during a workout, even with a few 90 and 100 miles rides in 90ish degrees with a 10k run afterwards. Do you wear a heart rate monitor or going by RPE? How hard are you pushing yourself? 

I have always heard that most of your training should be done at a somewhat "easy" pace, unless you are doing fartlek or sprints. You may be going a bit low on nutrition on the bike, but still I am surprised that you get to the point of vomiting... and more than once.

Also, when I trained for my HIM I rarely ran more than 10 miles and definitively not as a brick. Then again, I am a MOP to BOP guy, so maybe you have different goals.

I hope someone else can help out a bit more... I am sure its not nice to finish your workout with a few unwanted ab-crunches!!
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2010-10-20 11:45 AM
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Subject: RE: Hucking on the run
Couple things that stuck out in your post is 'lots of water, sports drink and gel"

You might back off on the strength of the sports drink(any thing more than 50/50 and I'll get nauseated)

Save the gel till an hour or so into the run and wash down with plain water

Try different sports drinks and gels. Full strength gatorade makes me really nauseated. Clif gels make me puke, GU and Hammer don't.

Your tummy might simply be too full.

Edited by LittleCat 2010-10-20 11:52 AM
2010-10-20 12:07 PM
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Subject: RE: Hucking on the run
Maybe you're taking in too much food/ drink on the bike?

On a side note... why those GIANT bricks? They seem excessive to me.
2010-10-20 1:04 PM
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Subject: RE: Hucking on the run
Both the posts directly above me are good suggestions.

1.  Those bricks are longer than need be.  Honestly, I don't think bricks are important.  The gains don't outway the long recover time (for me).

2.  Are you using the same nutrition every time?  This could be your answer.  Play around with what you're taking in and how much of it.  There is a very fine line between how much and how little each athlete can take in during longer races.  For me, I shoot for around 400 calories/hour and 20oz of fluid/hour.  About 50% of my calories are in liquid form.  40% gels.  10% solids (pretzels, bars, ect...)

Unfortunately there is no plan that will work for everyone.  Find something that works for you, and stick with it.  Good luck!
2010-10-20 2:15 PM
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Subject: RE: Hucking on the run
Also you may do well with something on the bike at lower intensity that may not work on the run.

Especially in longer training and racing eventually the tummy shuts way down and can only accept small amounts....anything over this can cause puking.


2010-10-20 3:05 PM
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Subject: RE: Hucking on the run
How about salt/electrolytes? Do you sweat a lot? I do and I do better if I take in extra electrolytes. I use Endurolytes but there are lots of other brands out there.

If I'm doing a long workout or race and I get nauseated, it's always because I need salt. Your body may be different, just a suggestion! 
2010-10-20 4:10 PM
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Subject: RE: Hucking on the run
After thinking about it I remember that something similar happened to me a couple of times when I used to play beach volleyball for several hours in a row. I used to think that it was because of not drinking (or eating) enough during the games. We used to play pretty competitively for hours in the middle of the day and it was very hot. I sweat a lot by the way. Now I try to stay well hydrated and drink quite a bit during my workouts. Sometimes more than double of what my friends drink.

The suggestions above with regards to the amount of electrolytes sound very good. Everyone says nutrition is a very personal thing. I hope you find what works for you.
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