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2008-12-24 9:15 AM

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Subject: Training Log Times
My training logs times are appearing incorrectly in actual v. planned calendar views.  Actual Bike is cutting off the hours (showing minutes only) and swim is not showing times at all.  these times do appear in my training log actual view.  Any Help?


2008-12-24 9:53 AM
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Subject: RE: Training Log Times
Can you give me an example day for the bike and swim?
2008-12-25 10:33 PM
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2008-12-14   
2008-12-1521.00 Mi - 1h 02m 15s
 
  
2008-12-16 6.50 Mi - 55m 48s
 
1000.00 Yd - 17m 30s
 
2008-12-1715.65 Mi - 45m 07s
 
  
2008-12-18  1000.00 Yd - 16m 30s
 
2008-12-1915.53 Mi - 45m 53s
 
2.50 Mi - -18m
 
-40m
 
2008-12-2019.00 Mi -30m
 
 
Weekly Totals:71.18 Mi - 2h 33m 15s
 
9.00 Mi - 07m 48s
 
2000.00 Yd - -06m
as you can see from this past week, run and swim times are messed up.
2008-12-26 12:26 AM
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Subject: RE: Training Log Times

The way the AVP calendar/week-month view works is that it takes your 'Actual' training and subtracts from it your 'Planned' training to get the AVP number.  The red numbers indicates a deficit in training that you did NOT do (A-P).

For example, 12/12/2008, there was a planned run of 30minutes.  You didn't log an 'Actual' run on that day so that is why it has a red 30min: 0-30 = -30min

Same for 12/19/2008, you had a planned run of 40min, but you logged an actual run of 22min for a deficit of 18min: 22-40 = -18min

Likewise for the swim on 12/19/08, you had a planned swim of 40min but logged nothing so the AVP number is 0-40 = -40min

For the AVP reports, it's best to look at the 'week totals' to see how close you came to doing all of your planned training as even though the daily numbers may be way off due to 'life', it you switched days around or made up a missed training day, the week totals will correctly reflect that.

Though show me the math if you still see an issue, I have had a little 'Holiday Nog' at the moment and my calculations may not be impenetrable.

2008-12-27 10:30 AM
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Subject: RE: Training Log Times
2008-12-21  -30m
 
2008-12-22 8.00 Mi - 13m 16s
 
 
2008-12-2317.83 Mi - 05m
 
 1200.00 Yd 
2008-12-24 6.90 Mi - 1h 00m 02s
 
 
2008-12-25-1h 30m
 
  
2008-12-2619.00 Mi - 1h 00m
 
-40m
 
-40m
 
2008-12-27-1h 00m
 
-30m
 
 
Weekly Totals:36.83 Mi - -1h 25m
 
14.90 Mi - 03m 18s
 
1200.00 Yd - -1h 10m

First, thanks for helping.  I owe you a Nog.  Here's my issue.  SWIM: weekly shows deficit of the entire 70m.  no time indicated for my measly 1200y despite it showing in my TLog.  RUN: 8 miles shows only 13m NOT 1:13.  my weekly surplus of 3m18s should be 1h3m18s.  BIKE:  12/23 only gives my credit for 5m, should be 1:05.  deficit should be -20m for week.

I now realize how to figure this out thanks to your reply.  but times are still not showing up.  THEY DO APPEAR IN TLOG.  Help?  is there a technical support email/thread?  Figure this out and you truly are the 'champion'!

2008-12-27 1:05 PM
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charliesmith3 - 2008-12-27 11:30 AM

First, thanks for helping.  I owe you a Nog.  Here's my issue.  SWIM: weekly shows deficit of the entire 70m.  no time indicated for my measly 1200y despite it showing in my TLog. 

The swim on 12/23 is being reflected in the total. The 70 minute deficit is the sum of the 30 minutes on the 21st and 40 minutes on the 26th.

RUN: 8 miles shows only 13m NOT 1:13.  my weekly surplus of 3m18s should be 1h3m18s.

This view (Actual vs. Planned) is a comparison, not a total. You had 1 hour scheduled that day and ran 1h13m, so what's shown is the difference of 13 minutes. Excess time is shown in black, deficits are shown in red.

BIKE:  12/23 only gives my credit for 5m, should be 1:05.  deficit should be -20m for week.
See above explanation.




2008-12-27 2:26 PM
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SWIM: doesn't give any credit for 12/23 swim nor does time appear next to it.  does it not give you time towards weekly planned if not performed on a planned day? 1:10 is weekly planned total, deficit is 1:10 despite 12/23 swim.

RUN: weekly planned = 70m (red); actual = 73.18 (black surplus of 3m18s, BUT my 12/22 run only shows MINUTES/SECONDS (13m16s), won't show the HOURS, 1h13m16s as logged)

BIKE: same problem on 12/23, won't show the 1h5m, only 5m.  training logs show the correct figures.

2008-12-27 4:08 PM
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Here's the ACTUAL CALENDAR figures, which are correctly shown:

2008-12-21 

    
2008-12-22  8 Mi - 1h 13m 16s
09m 10s/Mi

 
  
2008-12-23 17.83 Mi - 50m
21.40 Mi/hr

 
 1200.00 Yd
- 30m
02m 30s/ 100 Yd

 
212 
2008-12-24  6.8 Mi - 1h 00m 02s
08m 50s/Mi

 
  
2008-12-25     
2008-12-26 19 Mi - 1h 00m
19.00 Mi/hr

 
   
2008-12-27     
Weekly totals & Avgs36.83 Mi - 1h 50m
Pace: 20.09 Mi/hr
Min: 58  Avg: 128  Max: 149   
14.80 Mi - 2h 13m 18s
Pace: 09m 01s /Mi
Min: 80  Avg: 146  Max: 165   
1200.00 Yd - 30m
Pace: 02m 30s /100Yd
 
212.00 
2008-12-27 4:29 PM
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charliesmith3 - 2008-12-27 3:26 PM

SWIM: doesn't give any credit for 12/23 swim nor does time appear next to it.  does it not give you time towards weekly planned if not performed on a planned day? 1:10 is weekly planned total, deficit is 1:10 despite 12/23 swim.

This view only shows variances between what's in your Planned Log and your Actual log. On the 23rd, in your Planned log is a swim with 30 minutes and no distance. You logged a swim of 30 minutes and 1200 yards, so only the variance is displayed. In this case, that is the 1200 yards.  The times are exactly the same, so no there's no variance to display.

As to the weekly totals, your math is off. 1:40 is the weekly planned total, not 1:10. There are 3 swims planned for that week, a 30 minute swim on the 23rd, a 40 minute swim on the 26th and another 30 minute swim on the 28th. That's a total of 100 minutes, or 1:40. You logged a 30 minute swim, so that leaves a deficit of 70 minutes, or 1:10.

RUN: weekly planned = 70m (red); actual = 73.18 (black surplus of 3m18s, BUT my 12/22 run only shows MINUTES/SECONDS (13m16s), won't show the HOURS, 1h13m16s as logged)

The times and distances displayed here aren't Planned or Actual, they're the result of subtracting Planned from Actual. If the result is negative (you did less training than was called for in the plan) the result is displayed in red as a negative number. If the result is positive (you did more training than was called for in the plan) the result is displayed in black.

So, on 12/22 you had 60 minutes Planned and you did 63 minutes 18 seconds. 63m18s minus 60m is 3m18s which is what is displayed.

BIKE: same problem on 12/23, won't show the 1h5m, only 5m.  training logs show the correct figures.

Again, this page only shows the difference between what was planned and what was logged. It doesn't show the discrete Actual or Planned values.

You had 1h Planned and entered 1h5m actual, so the difference is 5m which is what is being displayed. There was no distance entered in the Planned workout for that day, so any distance entered will be treated as a postive difference. That's why the 17.83 mi is showing up on the AvP page.

2008-12-27 6:44 PM
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DOH.  sorry for the hassle.  I was comparing to the prior week times, which didn't have 'planned' and therefore showed the whole time.

 thanks for helping the new guy out!

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