Heart Rate Monitors
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Expert![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() So I've heard heaps about how beneficial heart rate monitors are for cycling and running training. The two major brands I've heard the most about are polar and garmin. Just a few quick questions on monitors (I'm a newbie on the subject) 1. Is it worthwhile skimping out and going for a cheap option/2nd hand? Or are these just crap? 2. Main differences between polar and garmin? 3. Whats all this GPS stuff that they can do? It doesn't seem necessary? 4. Can they download straight to software on home computers? Is this necessary? 5. Do you have to do tests every so often to find out your "zones" of heart rate? 6. Whats the best option for someone who just wants to train in the different zones? And maybe to download onto home computers if you feel it is necessary? Just rather ask you guys as compared to a shop salesman who would pressure me into buying the lastest and greatest at 3-4x the price. Thanks. |
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New user ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I have a timex HR monitor and it gets the job done just fine for me at a sticker price of less than $80. It doesn't have any cool features like downloading on to the computer or GPS but it does have an option to set your zones and tells you when you're in or out of them which is what I use it for. |
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Expert![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() danambro8 - 2009-06-17 4:31 PM I have a timex HR monitor and it gets the job done just fine for me at a sticker price of less than $80. It doesn't have any cool features like downloading on to the computer or GPS but it does have an option to set your zones and tells you when you're in or out of them which is what I use it for. Is that all you need them for? Just training in your zones? Is all the added features just for additional info or do you actually need it? |
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New user ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() supa-powa - 2009-06-17 12:01 AM Well one could make the argument that you don't NEED one at all. For myself (since I can't speak for others) all I need at the moment is a way to track my zones during my workout. I use my phone to track my distances and I update my HRs in my training log here on the site so I don't need any uplink between the computer and my watch or GPS built in. If those seem like features you'd benefit from and you have the dough, then spring for a more top of the line watch. If all you plan on doing with it is monitoring your HR and times then I don't see how a more expensive watch would be better.danambro8 - 2009-06-17 4:31 PMI have a timex HR monitor and it gets the job done just fine for me at a sticker price of less than $80. It doesn't have any cool features like downloading on to the computer or GPS but it does have an option to set your zones and tells you when you're in or out of them which is what I use it for. Is that all you need them for? Just training in your zones? Is all the added features just for additional info or do you actually need it? |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() supa-powa - 2009-06-16 7:02 PM So I've heard heaps about how beneficial heart rate monitors are for cycling and running training. The two major brands I've heard the most about are polar and garmin. Just a few quick questions on monitors (I'm a newbie on the subject) 1. Is it worthwhile skimping out and going for a cheap option/2nd hand? Or are these just crap? Depends on your answers to 3, 4, and 6. Absolutely avoid the watches with a touch sensor on the face. Those are a waste of money. You want one with a chest strap. You can get a Garmin ForeRunner 50 w/ Heart Rate strap for $50 on Amazon these days... 2. Main differences between polar and garmin? Polar is all about the heart rate and I believe will even measure the inter beat variability they offer GPS distance measurement as an add-on feature to the heart rate monitor. Garmin is all about the GPS tracklog and they add the heart rate monitor (HRM) as an add-on feature. Garmins implementation of the HRM is better than Polars implementation of GPS, but the Garmin chest strap is not as nice as the polar comfort strap. Garmin is developing a new strap. Suunto make some nice HRM watches as well, but they tend to be in the higher price range. 3. Whats all this GPS stuff that they can do? It doesn't seem necessary? The Garmin GPS watches can record your location to within a couple of meters every second and store that for later retrieval. Using that information, they calculate distance and pace. They can also do simple navigation of predefined routes or waypoints. Polar used to be limited to just speed and distance but the newer polar GPS watches will also record location for later retrieval. It's not necessary for running, but it gives me the freedom to just run and figure out the distance later. I don't worry about staying on a set course to determine distance. I've also used it to find my way back to my car when I was running in unfamiliar cities. 4. Can they download straight to software on home computers? Is this necessary? All of the Garmin watches except the FR101 can and most of the polar and suunto watches can. It's not necessary, you can keep a log on paper or manually fill out your training log. I even record all my lap splits for swimming by hand. For running or cycling, it's nice to just plug in the watch and then review the data. I record speed and power data, so I can quickly review how I did on my intervals and analyze races. 5. Do you have to do tests every so often to find out your "zones" of heart rate? Absolutely. The formulas are for the average sedentary person. You're probably not average. Once every month or two, run a 5k time trial. You can calculate zones from there. BT has an article on testing for HR zones. 6. Whats the best option for someone who just wants to train in the different zones? And maybe to download onto home computers if you feel it is necessary? The FR50 seems to be a great deal as replacement Heart Rate straps can sell for more than $50. I don't know the polar stuff well enough to recommend one, but they probably have an inexpensive one with a comfort strap that you may like better. Timex also seems popular for a less expensive device. |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I can't speak for Garmin but I got a Polar HRM passed on to me (for free) from a fellow BTer. I am going to use it till I decide I need to take my training to the next level and get a Garmin for the extra tracking information. I can't download anything to the computer but this polar gives me all the necessary information of when I am in zone, out of zone, what my HR is, rough estimate of calories burned based on my entered age, sex, height, and weight etc, and an average HR post workout. Look around plenty to choose from and as long as it is from a reputable brand (Garmin, Polar, Suunto, Timex) you should be ok! |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() supa-powa - 2009-06-16 10:02 PM So I've heard heaps about how beneficial heart rate monitors are for cycling and running training. The two major brands I've heard the most about are polar and garmin. Just a few quick questions on monitors (I'm a newbie on the subject) 1. Is it worthwhile skimping out and going for a cheap option/2nd hand? If all you want is your HR, those will work fine...sometimes better than a garmin.... Or are these just crap? the features you are looking for will define their crapiness....if all you want is a HR readout, they wont be crap and will work fine. If you want speed/distance, a $40 HR watch will turn out to be crap. 2. Main differences between polar and garmin? not sure, to be honest. I use a garmin forerunner 305--love it. 3. Whats all this GPS stuff that they can do? It doesn't seem necessary? GPS is only necessary if you want speed/distance. Even than it is not necessary,as you can get that with a foot pod option. other features of a GPS is that if you get lost, you can find your way home.... 4. Can they download straight to software on home computers? Is this necessary? yes, only necessary if you want to keep track of your workouts. cheap ones you refer to wont do this. you'll probably need a garmin or polar or another high end brand to do this. It is nice to track your speed/distance/HR and have it on file, but not necessary. The only thing necessary is that you S/B/R. 5. Do you have to do tests every so often to find out your "zones" of heart rate? you should, as the age based method often will be wrong. Keep in mind, there are several different zones. You could get 4-5 different HR zones after the same exact test from different sources.... 6. Whats the best option for someone who just wants to train in the different zones? If all you are looking for is HR zones and that is it, I suggest you do a field test, seach google and you'll find plenty. search this site and you'll find plenty. Or, search out your local area and someone will do it for $50-$75...nice thing about paying for it is your likely to not screw up and have to re-test. than, get a cheapo HR monitor that will display your HR, and stay within the range of the w/os. you ask some great questions, the key is to define what you want, than go get it. To be honest, if you are gonig to train with HR, I highly suggest you ahve someone perform the test for you. First time around, you are likely to make a mistake and have to re-test. testing is like going for your annual physical...you have to do it, its not fun, but when its over you're glad you did it.... |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Minimum feature, a lap button. My cheapo Polar HRM that was purchased as a gift doesn't have one and it is needed whether tracking split times or HR averages such as during a LT field test. My biz partner is anti tech when it comes to training, but his wife got him a Garmin 405 and he loves it. Doesn't use the HRM at all, just the GPS, says it's opened up his mind to running as he can now just go with out having to plan a route. Most HRM allow you to input your own HR zones, my cheapo does. If you the LT tests, calc the zones using the BT feature then put them into the HRM. Your training zones will have some variability depending on were you're at in training. My run LT changed 5 bpm from the first time to the midst of HIM training. My bike changed 8 bpm. On a side note, if you ever run on treadmills at a gym, some of the treadmills HR functions will work with the Polar straps that are digital. We have these at our YMCA, not that I ever run on a treadmill unless its a weather state of emergency! |
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Expert![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Thanks for all the help everyone. I think I'll buy a new one from a store of some sort. I'll probably just go for the zones etc as the downloads onto the computer seems like yet another expense as most of you seem to just write them in yourselves. Thanks once again, very very helpful. |