Really need advice on whether i can do the Oly i registered for in Sept
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Here's the deal gang..... I have my first Tri this weekend, a Sprint. It's a 750m swim, 15 mile bike, and 5k run. I feel pretty confident and don't have any concerns on completing it and finishing strong. However, my concern is for the Oly Tri i registered for that is on September 21. Last week and today i went out and did a 15 mile bike (in preparation for the race this weekend). I feel ok about it, having averaged 18.3 mph and a cadence of 84. However, i was pretty spent after it was done. I went an extra 5 miles after that, but i was struggling just to keep the pedals moving. My running is "ok". I've done a couple bricks where i rode and ran 3 miles afterwards. Ran those in about 27 minutes rather comfortably. I can do the 750m in about 17 minutes without much effort in a pool. So i'm feeling like i'll finish ok and feel good about my efforts. However, i'm concerned about the Oly in September.....particularly the bike. I'm just not sure (after todays ride) that i can be ready for 25 miles in 6 weeks. Ya i can coast at about 15 mph, but thats not my nature. I want to compete and not drag myself through the finish line. So my wife is pissed that i'm even considering dropping out. She tells me it doesn't matter how long or slow it takes, but just that i finish. My cardio feels great, but my legs just aren't in shape yet for even a decent 20 mile ride. I could do it coasting, but i just can't bring myself to that. I would want to finish like i plan on finishing my Sprint this weekend....feeling good about my effort. So i'm wondering what the feelings are about what i'm considering? Can i work my tail off in 4 weeks and get up to 25 miles without feeling like i'm about to die? Or should i just bike the 25 miles at an even an easy pace and don't worry about my time? I just don't know what to do and i'm discouraged. Anyone give me some practical and realistic advice? |
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Sneaky Slow ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() To get to 25 miles, you ought to use easier gears, and get that cadence into the 90-95 range. I think that would also make your legs feel fresher for the run. If you do the race, you ought to take it VERY EASY on the bike. We're talking 15-16 MPH here. You don't have any training logged, so it is hard to say do it, or not, so I won't. The guideline I've seen is that you ought to be able to bike for 2-2.5 hours and run for 1.5. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() You've got 6 weeks so make the best of them. Get out for a "long ride" every week. Initially, this may be 16-18 miles, but it should be 25 miles by September 14 to give you a week to "taper." If you're training by perceived exertion, keep these rides around 5-6 (an effort you can sustain for 90 minutes). If by heart-rate, keep them in Z2. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() xmann1102 - 2008-08-11 4:20 PM Ya i can coast at about 15 mph, but thats not my nature. I want to compete and not drag myself through the finish line. I wish you had your training logged so an assessment could be made on your fitness level. I see you writing that you want to be competitive, but then you are just now doing a 15-20 mile ride ride about a month out from your Oly? Also, you mention running 3 miles... have you done longer runs? Are you prepared to run the 10K? I would guess that if you wanted to be competitive, you would have been training a bit more. I'm not trying to be rude, but just realistic. Look, if you aren't willing to put in the time training, then either you need to be OK with going 15 mph on the bike in your race, or you need to get more dedicated to training. Can you finish the Oly? Probably so. Of course, I don't know what your training history is, so I'm just assuming you have a decent base and can finish all 3 distances. It just sounds like you don't want to go slow at the Oly so you are ready to drop out. You have about 4 weeks left to get decent on the bike for 20-25 miles. Honestly, that's a short distance on the bike. One can up their biking miles easily without injury. How many times a week do you ride now? It might be wise of you to focus on some cycling in the next 2-3 weeks, and to work on some longer rides and some short fast. One can become a decent cyclist in a relatively short amount of time. In the end though, I say go do the race. If you aren't fast, you aren't fast. Then for next time, you know how much more you need to train to have a faster race. Gotta start somewhere and the first one is always a good learning experience. Edited by KSH 2008-08-11 4:48 PM |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I just finished my first Oly tri in July (2 hours 46 min). I am off the couch like 10 months now. My fitness level is that I can run/jog 13-15 miles, bike 50-70 miles and swim 1.5 miles, individually, not back to back. I was able to finish the Oly strong at this training level, but ya I was 75th of 130 total participants. The Oly is short enough that you should be able to complete each element (swim alone, bike alone, run alone) without too much difficulty. If you can't I would agree to pace yourself. It sounds like you can finish it, but you are looking at 3:30 to 4 hours would be my guess. I can't tell what your fitness level actually is as your logs don't appear to be up to date. Worst case is you end up walking some and finish it. A lot of people walk some to finish their first Oly or HIM. To do as well in the Oly as your ability at shorter distances you will have to up that endurance and it just takes time. My thoughts are usualy, if they have your money and you are not hurt, shrug do the race. You get braggin rights just for finishing an Oly, run walk or crawl. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Yes, increase your long weekly ride, runs, swims but stay in the correct zone for HR or RPE, don't go to hard. That 20 miles you just did on the bike is a great start, next time try and maintain the same pace the whole ride. You can build fitness up to 10 days beforehand then it taper time. So in the next 4 weeks do something like this (10% increases) for your weekly long one:
Better to deal with the work load now so you can taper and enjoy the race! Be realistic about the bike since its your 1st Oly and your still building your base. I went to hard on an MTB for my 1st Oly bike and it killed me on the run. I did it 6 weeks after I did my 1st Sprint, wasn't in true Oly shape for it per say, but it taught me what being in Oly shape meant for the next year! Start using your logs, it's a great tool to be able to go back and look at your progress over time. Not sure if your following a training plan or not either.
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I'm with your wife on this. You spent the money on an entry fee, have been spending tons (hopefully) of time away from home training, and now you want to drop out because you're afraid you won't be fast enough? Unless you are injured, or have some sort of crisis at the last minute, you should plan to do the race. Focus your training on your weak area, and plan accordingly for next year. |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() first off, let me say that i have been training. no i haven't logged much of my training, but i've been riding 2 times a week (i now know this is an issue), running 3, and swimming 3. my fitness level is relatively decent. i've run up to 8 miles thus far at a 9 minute pace. i've been swimming 3 times a week basically because i had to teach myself TI over the course of 3 months. since mid May, i've been averaging 5 or 6 days of training a week. where i am at right now is only because i've busted my butt over that time. in May i couldn't barely run a mile without dying....now i can do 6 with plenty of reserve. i guess i need to expect to just get out and do the 20+ mile rides and stay in a slower pace than i did today for my 15. i realize 20-25 miles is short for bike rides, but it is long if you've only ridden a couple days a week for a couple months. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() xmann1102 - 2008-08-11 6:51 PM first off, let me say that i have been training. no i haven't logged much of my training, but i've been riding 2 times a week (i now know this is an issue), running 3, and swimming 3. my fitness level is relatively decent. i've run up to 8 miles thus far at a 9 minute pace. i've been swimming 3 times a week basically because i had to teach myself TI over the course of 3 months. since mid May, i've been averaging 5 or 6 days of training a week. where i am at right now is only because i've busted my butt over that time. in May i couldn't barely run a mile without dying....now i can do 6 with plenty of reserve. i guess i need to expect to just get out and do the 20+ mile rides and stay in a slower pace than i did today for my 15. i realize 20-25 miles is short for bike rides, but it is long if you've only ridden a couple days a week for a couple months. Every single one of us had to start out just like you are now! Great job at the progress you've made so far. ~ 2.5 years after I started out I did a HIM, MiamiMan, wasn't planning on it. In fact when I was stating out I told others 'no way that's not for me'. But my friend / business partner signed up in April of 06 and said that we'd make it a "business" trip! I figured in 6 months I could do it for the experience and sure did learn a lot over that time. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I say go ahead and do the OLY. Pace yourself on the bike. This is your first OLY...no need to go balls to the walls in it. I would just concentrate on finishing the race for the experience and to establish a "base" time to improve on, for future races. I think 6 weeks is plenty of time to get your bike mileage up to race distance...heck at 20 miles, you're almost there already. Try and add a mile each ride or at the very least, each week, and you'll be there...with a week or more to spare. You can do it. I just did my first OLY yesterday. My time was 2:52:07...and that was with very little training. I was doing 1-2 long weekend rides (50-80 miles) per week, swimming only 2x (2000 meters) per week, and I can't even remember the last time I ran outside (do most of my running on a treadmill). So, trust me..if I can finish an OLY with that kind of training schedule...anyone can! Good luck and let us know how it goes. Linda Edited by nscrbug 2008-08-11 6:45 PM |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() ok ok , i knew you guys would be the voice of reason. i think my issue is that i need to swallow my pride and realize this is just to set a base for future races. i just hate the idea of perhaps taking it a bit easy on the bike to help with the run. i guess i need to just maybe stop looking at my mph and just do what it takes to get some miles in. |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() You can do it! I agree with what others have said about taking it slow. You will need to conserve some energy for the run and the finish! I am registered for an Oly at the end of this month and my bicycling isn't nearly as good as yours. I probably ride my bike at about half your speed! I have rode the distance in training though. It was tough, but I did it. I think doing some longer rides between now and Sept. will really help to get your confidence up. Start out with the 15 miles you are struggling with and slowly build up to 20. Then build up to 25. You have plenty of time to be able to build up and those longer rides really help bring confidence going into the race! |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() xmann1102 - 2008-08-11 6:49 PM i guess i need to just maybe stop looking at my mph and just do what it takes to get If you are worried about pushing to fast during the race, take off all timing devices. Take the computer off your bike, take off your watch, your hrm, everything. I did a race this way over the summer. I needed to not push too hard (I was coming off a bad injury). I knew myself, if I saw times too slow I would push to speed up. So, I took all timing devices off and did the race listening solely to my body. It was great and I broke every expectation I could have had on the bike without stressing to meet some arbitrary time goal. |
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