Stripped Pedal Threads
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() On this Saturday's ride, the pedal threads stripped out of my driveside crankarm--to the point where the pedal actually fell off. Second time in about 3 years that I've had to call my wife for a pickup. The bike is less than a year old and I'm sure the pedals were installed correctly, not crossthreaded or overtightened, so I'm hoping that the seller will make good on it. My question: This is the driveside crankarm on an FSA Energy compact. The crankarm is integrated with the spider that attaches to the chainwheels. I'm assuming that you can get that part separately, and not have to get a whole new crank--is that correct? Anybody got a feel for how much the part might cost (aluminum, not carbon), and/or what would be a reasonable price to have it installed by a shop? |
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Slower Than You ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() You might be SOL if you bought it secondhand. FSA might be able to repair it. A shop *might* be able to remove/replace the pedal threads, dunno exactly (not sure if I would trust that kind of repair no matter who did it). Worst case scenario is you buy a new crank. Good thing is that decent cranks aren't that pricey. I've picked up a couple carbon cranks for under $100 each. That might be something to consider. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() No, it wasn't secondhand, I got it from bikesdirect. They say no warranty, which doesn't surprise me too much because I saw that FSA specifically excludes stripped threads from their warranty. I'm hoping to just be able to replace the driveside arm, since the rest of the crankset is fine. They're going to quote me a price on the part, but I figure I'll compare that with LBS prices. Can anyone comment on how hard it would be to replace that part? I'm reasonably mechanically inclined, imagine I would have to buy a couple of tools, but I think I'd just as soon spend money on tools rather than bike shop labor if it's something I can do myself. Edited by tjh 2009-04-27 5:39 PM |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Assuming it's an integrated spider, you just have to remove the chainrings from the damaged arm and install on new spider. It's a fairly easy procedure. Need an allen wrench sized for your chain ring bolts (varies by mfg, but any metric allen set will likely have the size you need) and possibly a chainring wrench. The chainring wrench is used on the backside of the bolt in the "slot" of the nut. It helps keep the bolt backing from spinning when loosening/tightening. Sometimes you can get away w/out the wrench, but it's a cheap tool, and doesn't hurt to have in your arsenal. Most important thing when installing the rings on the new spider is to keep bolt tension even and to spec. This will reduce the potential for creaking under load. Be careful not to overtightened, as you can damage or even break the chainring bolts and/or nuts. It will be interesting to see what the vendor comes back with in terms of a replacement arm. Like a previous poster said, if the cost starts getting close to $100, might be worth dumping the Energy and trying to scoop up another crankset off craigslist or ebay. Guess it depends on your budget considerations. Edited by cooutdoors 2009-04-27 6:11 PM |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Some things: The chain rings on FSA cranksets are attached w/ Torx bolts: A T-30 (I think) which is usually supplied with the crankset. Most others manufactures are 5mm allen, not FSA. The spider costs more than a replacement crankset might. I'd seriously look at a new crankset. While you're at it: replace the chain too. You'll need to know what type of bottom bracket you have. It's likely an ISIS interface if you've got an energy crankset. I'm not certain if FSA makes the Mega Exo integrated in the energy line (that's Gossamer now?). I've only seen that in ISIS interface, but others might exist. You'll need a crank puller tool to get the crankarms off of the bottom bracket spindle. Get the right one (ISIS/Octalink or square taper) depending on what you've got. If you feel you can do this unassisted, look on eBay for a seller "bikemaui". He's got good deals on cranksets and other components and parts. Bonktown also has some deals. |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() pitt83 - 2009-04-27 5:26 PM The chain rings on FSA cranksets are attached w/ Torx bolts: A T-30 (I think) which is usually supplied with the crankset. Most others manufactures are 5mm allen, not FSA. Good tip. Serves me right being a SRAM guy...totally forgot about that! Thanks for updating. I believe all newer Energy cranksets are MegaExo. Older models are ISIS. Guess it depends on what model year the OP got when purchased. Edited by cooutdoors 2009-04-27 7:41 PM |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() It is Mega Exo, and I noticed that the bolts were Torx. Bikeisland.com (affiliated with BD) sells the whole Energy compact crankset with bottom bracket for $164, so hopefully they'll do me a deal on just the crankarm. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() New twist on this question--do I need to get exactly the same brand & model of crankarm, or will any 5-arm, 110mm BCD, 172.5mm crankarm work? Are they reasonably interchangeable, or is there something unique about the crankarm/chainring interface? |
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Slower Than You ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Not necessarily the same model, but yes to the same brand. It has to do with bottom bracket compatibility. FSA <-->FSA Shimano <--> Shimano (I think SRAM BBs work with Shimano) Campy <--> Campy etc. Your 110mm rings will fit another 110mm crankset. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Well, as it turns out, it's impossible to buy just a crankarm, only a whole crank, and FSA specifically excludes pedal threads from their warranty. To their credit, Bikesdirect did offer to sell me a new crank a their cost. But thanks to BT Classified and especially cooutdoors, I got a good deal on a lightly used standard crank. Went on like a charm and rides fine. If anybody needs some spare compact chainrings, check Classifieds. Thanks to everybody for all the tips. |
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![]() | ![]() bcart1991 - 2009-04-30 8:50 AM Not necessarily the same model, but yes to the same brand. It has to do with bottom bracket compatibility. FSA <-->FSA Shimano <--> Shimano (I think SRAM BBs work with Shimano) Campy <--> Campy etc. Your 110mm rings will fit another 110mm crankset. Just for the record SRAM BB's won't work with Shimano. The inside diameter of the two bearing cups is different. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Have you tried having a machine shop look at it to see whether the threads can be chased? Might be fixable (than again, it may not be). |
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![]() I don't know if a helicoil would work in the crank arm because it's so thin but the difference in price would certainly make it worth looking into. You would be able to install it without taking the crank arm off. There is also another solution that is very similar to the helicoil that is suppose to be a little better and is a lot more expensive. I can't recall what the name of that system is, if you think you want to consider either of those options let me know and I'll call the hardware store to get the specific name. If you go to Lowes or Home Depot and ask for a helicoil,you'll probably get a glazed stare and they'll say what? A question you should ponder though is what caused the threads to go bad, did the pedal keep coming loose? |
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![]() | ![]() Worst case scenario is you buy a new crank. Good thing is that decent cranks aren't that pricey. thread insert helicoil |
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![]() | ![]() But thanks to BT Classified and especially cooutdoors, I got a good deal on a lightly used standard crank. Went on like a charm and rides fine.http://www.xhcljx.com/eng |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() qfjsy - 2009-08-15 4:30 AM But thanks to BT Classified and especially cooutdoors, I got a good deal on a lightly used standard crank. Went on like a charm and rides fine.http://www.xhcljx.com/eng You'd think you could buy that part separately, but it turns out not. I checked with a couple of bike shops and they couldn't even special order it--you have to buy the whole crank. Best you can do is get it without a bottom bracket, which only saves about $10-20. |
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