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2005-12-05 2:11 PM

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Subject: Queen / Fitty cent Mashup briefly available
Well, let's see how long this lasts. For those of you who are into this sort of thing. Which is basically just me.



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2005-12-05 2:14 PM
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Funny. Thats illegal though right?

2005-12-05 2:46 PM
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I think 50 Cent/G-Unit is wack, thus no interest in this for me. But the Jay-Z/Beatles mix was awesome. Did Dangermouse do the 50/Queen?
2005-12-05 3:14 PM
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you think it'll last 2 more hours til i get home and can download it.  i heard some of the jay-z/beatles, good stuff.  jay-z and linkin park actually did a whole special for mtv with mashups.  it was badass, though i dont like linkin all that much.
2005-12-05 4:31 PM
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I have a better one yet. It is Green Days' latest all mashed up something fierce. it is awesome. It is better than their orginal. If you guys like mashups and some interesting takes on music, I go to a site called " Get your bootleg on." www.gybo-v3.co.uk/
If you keep an eye on it, you will pick up some really cool stuff. I probably had at least 6 mixes of Madonnas Hung Up before it was even released over here. Some of those guys on that site are geniuses. Most are DJ's in UK. I get lots of music on there. Hope you like it!


BTW sorry to hijack the thread.

Edited by cerveloP3 2005-12-05 4:32 PM
2005-12-05 4:53 PM
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Heaven. All of it. Thank you!!!!



2005-12-05 4:54 PM
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TriComet - 2005-12-05 3:14 PM

Funny. Thats illegal though right?



Now that is a fascinating philosophical and legal question.

The answer is, it depends.

If a DJ mixed together multiple recordings to fashion a new combination of beats and breaks for a live audience, it's certainly legal, and even encouraged by the owners of the copyright.

If a DJ did the same thing and broadcast it over the radio, it's also legal and condoned practice.

If a DJ did the same thing and broadcast it over the internet, it's also legal and condoned practice. As long as it's a non-recordable non-transferrable format, eg streaming audio.

If a DJ mixed together multiple recordings and offered them for sale, it would depend on what percentage of the original was used, and whether the original copyright holders had authorized that use and were paid for their consideration. See countless Public Enemy and other legal cases.

If a DJ mixed together multiple recordings and DID NOT offer them for sale but rather rleased them free of charge, it may be illegal, depending upon whether the rightsholders could demonstrate that distribution of the new mix deprived them of sales of their original versions. But a counterargument might be that listeners would be more likely to buy the original after hearing the mix, not less. I mean, does posessing this mashup mean that you don't need to own, somewhere in your music collection, an original track of "Fat Bottom Girls"?

So, I do not believe that making or distirbuting these mashups free of charge is illegal. Certainly, it is breaking no specific law; it falls under free use and the constant churn of cultural appropriation. And I'm fairly certain that it actually better serves the artists interests (in most cases) to have this type of fan activity; see manga. But the rightsholders can certainly take legal action (if they can figure out who owns the site) to remove the material.

2005-12-05 5:36 PM
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this is awesome!  thanks!  i think it's better than the grey album.
2005-12-05 5:39 PM
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thanks for the link!  i actually found something referring to theultimate bootleg:  American Edit by Dean Gray (Green Day'sAmerican Idiot) bit it's unavailable now.  There is a protest day scheduled for the 12th where they will allow anyone to download it, but after that you are s-o-l.

cool site! thanks.
2005-12-05 6:04 PM
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yesssss I love it, thanks.
2005-12-05 6:06 PM
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if you go a couple of pages, you can dl them individually....


2005-12-05 6:15 PM
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cerveloP3 - 2005-12-05 5:31 PM

www.gybo-v3.co.uk/


Ooooooh, that's nice. No problem, good hijack; we can call this the mashup thread.

I like Party Ben's site. Good stuff. He has had links to the American Edit protest stuff; the general plan is that next Tuesday hundreds or thousands of sites will all make the American Edit tracks generally available.

2005-12-13 10:14 AM
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Bump.

It's Dean Grey Tuesday, folks. Want to listen to a non-commercial edit of strange songs mashed together with the Green Day album "American Idiot"? Get your download on here:

http://americanedit.org/home/ae/

(scroll down the page to find the download site that is right for you.)

Boingboing story here.
2005-12-13 2:20 PM
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excellent, thanks

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2005-12-13 2:22 PM
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Not this again

stupidnickname - 2005-12-05 2:54 PM

TriComet - 2005-12-05 3:14 PM

Funny. Thats illegal though right?



Now that is a fascinating philosophical and legal question.

The answer is, it depends.

If a DJ mixed together multiple recordings to fashion a new combination of beats and breaks for a live audience, it's certainly legal, and even encouraged by the owners of the copyright.

If a DJ did the same thing and broadcast it over the radio, it's also legal and condoned practice.

If a DJ did the same thing and broadcast it over the internet, it's also legal and condoned practice. As long as it's a non-recordable non-transferrable format, eg streaming audio.

If a DJ mixed together multiple recordings and offered them for sale, it would depend on what percentage of the original was used, and whether the original copyright holders had authorized that use and were paid for their consideration. See countless Public Enemy and other legal cases.

If a DJ mixed together multiple recordings and DID NOT offer them for sale but rather rleased them free of charge, it may be illegal, depending upon whether the rightsholders could demonstrate that distribution of the new mix deprived them of sales of their original versions. But a counterargument might be that listeners would be more likely to buy the original after hearing the mix, not less. I mean, does posessing this mashup mean that you don't need to own, somewhere in your music collection, an original track of "Fat Bottom Girls"?

So, I do not believe that making or distirbuting these mashups free of charge is illegal. Certainly, it is breaking no specific law; it falls under free use and the constant churn of cultural appropriation. And I'm fairly certain that it actually better serves the artists interests (in most cases) to have this type of fan activity; see manga. But the rightsholders can certainly take legal action (if they can figure out who owns the site) to remove the material.

2005-12-13 3:19 PM
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Subject: RE: Queen / Fitty cent Mashup briefly available
got it.  had it on my outlook reminders.

very interesting stuff... 


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