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2006-02-16 7:50 AM

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Subject: Nutrition Optimization-Testing Needed

If you log your nutrition, we have made some changes based on your input:

  1. Your regular blog now displays total calories, # calories from and % calories from and grams from carbs, protiens and fats at the bottom.  We have also added most/all of these totals to the nutrition logging screen and the nutrition blog.
     
  2. Check out the 'nutrition blog' - we have added your 'this week/last week' and 'this month'last month' nutrition statistics.  Now it's easy to quickly see how your doing against the past month or week.  NOTE, the 'other' column is for stuff that you can configure to see in your training setting screen (caffeine, iron, vitamin D, etc)
     
  3. NEW MINICALENDAR.  You can configure 2 key parameters to easily monitor your daily nutrition, go into your 'training settings'  and you will see below the nutrient checkboxes:
     
    Daily caloric target (kcal): 
    Target threshold (+/- kcal): 

    IF these are configured, your nutrition minicalendar will lite-up according to the target +/- the threshold.  If you don't eat enough, the day is green, if you eat too much, its red.  If your within the target and thresholds you set, your blue.  You must set your own targets and thresholds depending on your lifestyle and goals. 
        - Below       - Above

        - On target

    A purple box is for logged nutrition BUT with no targets set-up.  A yellow box is for just nutrition comments.

I need users to test the targeting and threshold numbers and report back if they are working.

We still have some small mods and enhancements to do (meal templates, most recently used), but the bulk of your prior feedback is done adn I would like the above stuff verified first.

Please post here for any remaining bugs/feedback.  Once we finalize the nutrition, we're going to let it simmer this year and then look into adding another additional database of 70,000 foods late this year if users find this nutrition log useful and want more foods.



2006-02-16 8:06 AM
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I love it - easy to use - can't wait to try out the new stuff!

 

Thanks, Ron!

2006-02-18 5:50 PM
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I don't understand what threshold is...how do you determine this?

2006-02-19 9:36 AM
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Subject: RE: Nutrition Optimization-Testing Needed

Good queston. Threshold really refers to how strictly you want to follow your caloric target per day and how much variation you may have in your eating habits.

If you put in 2,000 calories a day as your caloric target and no thresholds, that means you have to hit 2000 calories exactly every day to get the minicalendar 'blue' which means your on-target.

Thats mostly impossible, so you adjust it with the 'threshold' number.  So your goal can be 2000cal/day + or - 100calories.  That means you will still be in the blue if you eat 1900-2100 calories per day. 

The best thing to do is start with a wider threshold to get a baseline as you start logging consistently, you can then decrease that number as your eating becomes more regimented or consistent.

The only thing these two number do is just provide an easy visual reading via the minicalendar as to your eating habits and if you are hitting the targets you set consistently...

2006-02-20 10:50 PM
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Subject: Most Frequent Foods
We have added a 'Most Frequent Foods' to select from.  It will track the 20 most recent foods in the dropdown.



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2006-02-22 8:23 PM
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Subject: RE: Nutrition Optimization-Testing Needed
This is tres cool!  Thank you!


2006-02-24 7:05 PM
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Subject: RE: Nutrition Optimization-Testing Needed
Hi Ron. I'm currently working with the nutrition log trying to make it work for my needs I will let you know how it work.I was wondeing how you show the vitamin content in the custom foods when the label has it in %.
2006-02-24 7:39 PM
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Subject: RE: Nutrition Optimization-Testing Needed

The actual 'weight' of the nutrient is given to us in the database per 'x' gram (or servings) of that food that was tested by the USDA.  So that is where the weight comes from and is adjusted by multipliers depending on your servings. 

Since we have the weight of the nutrient per serving provided, and we know from the USDA what the guidelines per nutrient is for a 2000 or 2500 calorie diet, we get the %Daily Value which is whats on the label.

*Remember though, NOT ALL foods in the database will have values for a particular nutrient (Vitamin A for example) so be careful when interpreting summations (week, month, year) of the nutrients as some foods may lack the testing and the summed value will be lower than what it actually is.  You can see what nutrients were tested by looking at the 'advanced nutrition info' at the bottom of the label - if its 'NA' then no testing for that nutrient.  If it's zero, its zero or very small.

2006-02-24 7:46 PM
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Oh...I reread your message.  Totally missed your question.

Hmmmm...good point.  Based on what I said prior to this, we can probably just use some algebera and given the serving size and the % noted on the label.

Something like:

X1 unit nutrient per serving = X2 conversion factor x %DV on label

Where the X2 conversion factor is the amount of that nutrient for a 2000 or 2500 calorie diet if it were 100% of the DV

*We will add this 'lookup' or calculator in march so you can input the %DV for a 2k or 2.5k diet from the label per serving and it will spit out the nutrient by weight of that serving.  Good call.  This will allow some more detailed info of the main vitamins on a label for when you do 'custom food' work.

2006-02-26 10:16 AM
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Can't wait to try this week. Looks great!
2006-02-26 2:48 PM
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Subject: RE: Nutrition Optimization-Testing Needed

We have added the last 'make it easier to log' item - CUSTOM MEAL TEMPLATES.

In the following picture, the 'Save Meal' button will take a meal, sum all the nutrient numbers together and make it one entry that you can only change the portion size or the sum total nutrient numbers for subsequent logging.

The 'Save Template' will take any particular meal and keep the ingrediants separate.  So you can add that template to a meal when you log AND STILL have the ability to recall and modify the individual food portions (example: your recipe has changed, you ran out of peppers and you don't want to re-create the meal again)





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2006-03-01 2:28 PM
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Subject: RE: Nutrition Optimization-Testing Needed
Ron - 2006-02-24 6:46 PM

Oh...I reread your message.  Totally missed your question.

Hmmmm...good point.  Based on what I said prior to this, we can probably just use some algebera and given the serving size and the % noted on the label.

Something like:

X1 unit nutrient per serving = X2 conversion factor x %DV on label

Where the X2 conversion factor is the amount of that nutrient for a 2000 or 2500 calorie diet if it were 100% of the DV

*We will add this 'lookup' or calculator in march so you can input the %DV for a 2k or 2.5k diet from the label per serving and it will spit out the nutrient by weight of that serving.  Good call.  This will allow some more detailed info of the main vitamins on a label for when you do 'custom food' work.

 

This is a big one for me.  I log a lot of custom foods and would like to be able to track all that other stuff.....

 

Rebecca

2006-03-01 3:44 PM
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Subject: RE: Nutrition Optimization-Testing Needed

DUMB Question - I can't find the nutrition mini-calendar.  I set up my calories and threshold but don't see anything in my log.  Performance members only??

Is there a way to automatically determine net calories consumed?  For example, I ate 1700 calories but burned 600 so that would be a net 1100 for the day.

Thanks for a great site!

2006-03-01 5:15 PM
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Subject: RE: Nutrition Optimization-Testing Needed

DC, no, it's a free feature.  We don't yet have the ability to calculate calories burned to get net.  But we hope to within this year.  It will be a big addition.

I have attached a pic of where the link is to the nutrition blog....





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2006-03-05 3:19 PM
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it's working great Ron.  Love it.  I only have two suggestions:

1.  Split the threshold into high and low instead of one +/- number.  For instance I want to target 3000 calories, so my low threshold may be -100, but if I go 500 over if I have a hard day, that's still within acceptable limits.  So I have to either choose +/- 200 and have it show me going over calories quite frequently, or use +/- 500 and have it not show when I was under a lot of the time.

2.  I like the meal template, but would like to have "submeals."  For instance with my smoothies, right now I have it saved as a meal template, so that I can tweak ingredients and quantities every time I make one.  It is then imported into the meal as ingredients only.  It would be nice if I could do that editing and have it added to the meal as simply a smoothie with the properly updated nutrition, instead of just all the ingredients listed individually.  It can sometimes make reading exaclty what I had for that meal difficult.  It would be kind of nice if when you clicked on the item that it would expand to show the ingredients and quantities individually, but not necessary. 

2006-03-05 8:17 PM
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Can I just start by saying how useful the nutrition logging program has been for me, I love it.
Thanks so much for all your work.

My small gripe is with the frequent foods.
Its not often I'd be eating the same thing for lunch as I just had for breakfast. By the time I get to breakfast for the next day all the items have already been replaced by my lunch & dinner items, and so I have to go an search them out again, does that make sense.

What would be useful is to have the frequent foods as the top 20 things that you actually eat. Say I eat tomatoes EVERY day, they would be on top of my list, so would the other staples of my diet like spinach, cottage cheese, english muffins etc etc. It would also start to trigger alarms if chocolate (or some kind of treat) was in my top 20 list.

I'm not even sure this is possible. Just a thought.


2006-03-07 1:49 PM
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Ron - 2006-03-01 5:15 PM

...We don't yet have the ability to calculate calories burned to get net. But we hope to within this year. It will be a big addition.

I just started messing around with this - and it's totally cool.  Makes me WANT to track calories. My question  -- until the ability to calculate calories burned is added, is there a way that we could put a manual Calories Burned entry in?  That way, when I look at the mini-calendar to see if I'm above or below my threshhold, it will be taking into account calories burned by training?  Or - even put in a food entry with negative calories (didn't try this to see if it was even possible yet)?   What do y'all think?

2006-03-08 9:34 AM
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Vortmax and Casie, we are working on your requests-they are good.

StartingtoTri, I'm going to hold off on this till we get the official calories burned integrated later this year...I'm hesitant to spend the time/money to do 'workarounds' which will then be undone later as I don't have a clear project description for calories burned yet.  Sorry.  BUT I will say that we are putting some priority on this as we will be hopefuly soon integrating a nutrition coach for the nutrition logs with a diet/lifestyle analysis.  Once that is running, we will have a better idea of how we want to get the calories burned numbers from as we will be getting expert advice and a calories burned feature is a necessary tool our nutrition coach and users will want.  Soon....

2006-03-08 9:39 AM
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Ron - 2006-03-08 8:34 AM

Vwe will be hopefuly soon integrating a nutrition coach for the nutrition logs with a diet/lifestyle analysis.

as in an actualy person coach or a computer algorithm?  Either way, that's bad ass.  You sure you charge enough for this stuff? 

2006-03-08 9:49 AM
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A person.  We have her picked out, a USAT level III coach (only 1 of 16 in the US-including Ricci) witha RD, LD and CSCS certification.  I have personally talked to her and am impressed.  We have most everything ready to offer this, I just have to find the time to integrate her in and 'do it'.  Next few months I imagine.
2006-03-11 7:27 PM
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Vortmax - DONE.  Please check it out for accuracy. 

"1.  Split the threshold into high and low instead of one +/- number.  For instance I want to target 3000 calories, so my low threshold may be -100, but if I go 500 over if I have a hard day, that's still within acceptable limits.  So I have to either choose +/- 200 and have it show me going over calories quite frequently, or use +/- 500 and have it not show when I was under a lot of the time."



2006-03-11 7:33 PM
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Subject: 'Measurement' Feild for custom foods.

For the custom food, we have changed the serving size so that you can enter you own custom measurent-be it cups, meals, ounces, etc.

You will see a feild as 'Measurement' in the custom food creation screen.

2006-03-11 7:59 PM
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Ron - 2006-03-11 6:27 PM

Vortmax - DONE. Please check it out for accuracy.

"1. Split the threshold into high and low instead of one +/- number. For instance I want to target 3000 calories, so my low threshold may be -100, but if I go 500 over if I have a hard day, that's still within acceptable limits. So I have to either choose +/- 200 and have it show me going over calories quite frequently, or use +/- 500 and have it not show when I was under a lot of the time."

works like a charm.  Thanks 

2006-03-11 8:03 PM
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Casie, DONE.  'Most frequent foods' should work better.  It counts all differant food logged over several days, then orders them in 'descending' order based on frequency used.

It may take a few days for it to start working like it should.  Let me know.

2006-03-23 7:37 PM
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Ron, it's all good!

Thanks
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