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2005-11-16 10:55 AM

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Subject: Bird Flu

Human bird flu case found in China.

So, what do you all think about Bird Flu?



2005-11-16 10:56 AM
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Poor birds.

2005-11-16 10:58 AM
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If only we could catch them all and give them itty-bitty flu shots...
2005-11-16 10:59 AM
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I better take my cockatiel to the vet to get one.

tmwelshy - 2005-11-16 11:58 AM If only we could catch them all and give them itty-bitty flu shots...

2005-11-16 11:07 AM
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Am I right in understanding that there is no immunization against this form of Bird Flu?

Is there more than one strain?

How worried should we be? 

2005-11-16 11:12 AM
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http://www.caes.uga.edu/news/kits/birdflu/

Check it out. This will give you a little more information. And you might notice I wrote one of the articles



2005-11-16 11:12 AM
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I am very scared about the bird flu and anyother diseases that are top stories in the news and papers. I think that this epidemic represents a very immediate danger to everyone on the planet. This is not like ebola (which I jut got done being scared of), this is not a very obscure disease on the other side of the planet which has very few actual diagnosed cases.
2005-11-16 11:34 AM
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At present, the virus that causes Asian bird flu does not easily infect humans.

In spite of all the media attention, a very small number of people (only about 100 mainly in Thailand and Vietnam) have contracted Asian bird flu. Almost all of those infected have had very close, direct contact with diseased birds.


Why worry?
2005-11-16 11:35 AM
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I'll just ask to put in a plastic bubble- with a treadmill, trainer, and my bike of course!
2005-11-16 11:40 AM
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ChuckyFinster - 2005-11-16 12:34 PM
At present, the virus that causes Asian bird flu does not easily infect humans. In spite of all the media attention, a very small number of people (only about 100 mainly in Thailand and Vietnam) have contracted Asian bird flu. Almost all of those infected have had very close, direct contact with diseased birds.
Why worry?

Because the media says to. As a journalist doing a stint at a college and only four months out of a newspaper, this is my take on it. News sells. Bad news sells even better. People may say they want the human interest/fluffy stories (they do), but bad news is what gets them to buy the paper, watch TV, surf the net, etc. If there's a horrific story on the front page, that's what I'm reading first. And then it's off to the comics and food/lifestyle section for me!

2005-11-16 11:43 AM
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Just wanted people to know was fingers were typing very sarcastically in my last post.


2005-11-16 11:45 AM
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If it hasn't mutated to where it can be spread human to human, not gonna lose sleep over it.

Oh, and I'm sure there's no truth to the rumors that our government is hyping the fear to distract from the POTUS' problems.

Wonder what color code/warning system they'll start using for the bird flu emergency management system...



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2005-11-16 11:46 AM
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How would you season your diseased chicken? Lemon basil sounds yummay to me.
2005-11-16 11:55 AM
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It's going to kill us all, unless we can out run it? Better staart training harder!!!
2005-11-16 12:03 PM
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KFC Introduces New Bird-Flu Dipping Vaccine

http://www.theonion.com/content/index

Towards the bottom of the page... lol

2005-11-16 12:04 PM
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nbo10 - 2005-11-16 12:55 PM It's going to kill us all, unless we can out run it? Better staart training harder!!!

I'd better start training harder!



2005-11-16 12:50 PM
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watergirl -

Because the media says to. As a journalist doing a stint at a college and only four months out of a newspaper, this is my take on it. News sells. Bad news sells even better.

Right, so it could be a case of Chicken Little running around clucking, "The sky is falling, the sky is falling".

Or it could be a real threat.

I have a friend working in healthcare in Vietnam who has plans in place to immediately evacuate her family from the country should a pandemic break out. She's not particularly tuned into western media these days.

Is anybody on BT an epidemiologist? It'd be interesting to hear an opinion from a pro, without it going through the filter of the main stream media. ('Course it would have to go through the filter of COJ, so who knows what it would look like out the other end)

Why worry?

Well, death comes for all of us, so I guess there's really no need to worry about this kind of death over another kind.

On the other hand, given the option, I'd like to know it's coming if I could. Also like to know if there is a way to shield it from coming after my loved ones, my children in particular.

 

2005-11-16 12:53 PM
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Don, it's not pandemic until the virus mutates. At this point, it is at the bird-to-human stage. Humans can't give it to other humans. When will it mutate? Maybe tomorrow, maybe 5 years from now.

Scientists seem certain that it is only a matter of time before it mutates. Then it's just a matter of time before it's all over the globe. Protect yourself as you would from any flu epidemic. Make plans to homeschool your kids if it hits the US.

2005-11-16 12:57 PM
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watergirl, I just saw your link to articles. Thanks!

Renee -

Make plans to homeschool your kids if it hits the US.

We're already planning on homeschooling our little ones because of other toxins that have hit the US.

 

 

2005-11-16 1:08 PM
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If Asian bird flu is detected, a wide area around the outbreak will be immediately quarantined, infected birds will be humanely destroyed and disposed of in an environmentally sound way to stop the chance of any further spread.


watergirl, do you know if there are plans in place to quarantine human populations if someone contracts bird flu, whether or not it has mutated and can be tranmitted from human to human?

Didn't the POTUS talk about this a month or two back?

It would be good to know if these plans actually exist and what they look like. Given the problems at every level in the Gulf states, it may be good for everyone to have a look at what would happen if this thing actually broke out.

Raises a lot of questions.

First one I have is: Can you legally quarantine an entire city or region. What the heck would that look like? Would it be wise?

2005-11-16 2:25 PM
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OK, how 'bout this:

Anyone who voiced concern or criticism over FEMA's handling of Katrina care to weigh in on what should be done if this thing mutates and breaks out?

The consensus seems to be that, as with Katrina, the question of a pandemic is not if it will happen but when it will happen.

How strong are our levees?



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2005-11-16 2:30 PM
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dontracy - 2005-11-16 11:07 AM

Am I right in understanding that there is no immunization against this form of Bird Flu?

Is there more than one strain?

How worried should we be? 

Depends on how committed you are to being a worrier.......

2005-11-16 2:55 PM
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I've had this discussion with our agrosecurity guy - I work for the College of Ag at UGA, but am by NO MEANS ANY KIND OF EXPERT on this. So, again, legality out of the way, this is hearsay. He said it would be impossible to quarantine a large number of people. There is almost no way.

That said, remember SARS? Everybody thought it was the next pandemic. So far, I haven't seen any more news stories on that lately. West Nile also. We're due a pandemic. It will happen someday. It may or may not be the bird flu. No one really knows. Probably the best thing you could do right now is teach your children and their friends really good hygiene habits - wash hands, don't bite nails, don't eat/drink after each other, etc.

Personally, I'd be more worried about catching the regular ol' flu. Ooops, too late. Already have this season

2005-11-16 3:03 PM
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Tania -

Depends on how committed you are to being a worrier.......



In general, I'm not. At least not about things like dying.

What's curious, though, is the lack of discussion in general about this. (not just here on BT, but everyone I hang out with online and in person)

After Katrina, there was holy hell to pay by any official who did not dot every i and cross every t in preparing for, what everyone concured, was a catastrophe that would eventually happen.

I pray that the bird flu does not migrate and that it is limited to the few poor souls who have contracted it from birds.

But, given the righteous indignation so many people had toward Katrina officials, I'd have thought that folks would be up to speed on what to do if the bird flu hits.

Maybe everyone will have an opinion if it actually does hit and we find again that the officials did not have a plan to handle it.
2005-11-16 3:17 PM
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dontracy - 2005-11-16 2:25 PM

OK, how 'bout this:

Anyone who voiced concern or criticism over FEMA's handling of Katrina care to weigh in on what should be done if this thing mutates and breaks out?

The consensus seems to be that, as with Katrina, the question of a pandemic is not if it will happen but when it will happen.

How strong are our levees?

I have been following this story since last month when they reported a case of bird flu (the bird-to-human kind) in Romania and Turkey. My sister lives in Italy with my 2 nieces so I pay attention to anything threatening Europe.

There isn't much they can do at this point. You can't wage war on a microbial terrorist.

Viruses cannot be fought with antibiotics. The feared virus does not yet exist; it has not mutated into human influenza form.

From what I've read, this flu hits the able-bodied population harder than the very young and old (different than your normal flu profile).

If a mutated human influenza were to hit, keep your kids home, wear protective masks while outdoors, wash your foods and any other purchases.

The medical/pharm community has no antibiotic or vaccine since they don't have a human influenza microbe to fight/experiment upon. It has to mutate into human influenza form before they can begin working on a drug to combat it. Our strongest drug (Tamiflu) is not entirely effective against the bird flu, it is very expensive and there is no way that Roche (the only maker of the antiviral) could keep up with 1% of US demand, much less worldwide demand for the antirviral medication.

I have noticed the chatter in the media and the government chatter regarding this topic; I've been paying attention since early/mid October.. Frankly, there's not much they can do, IMO, once the virus mutates other than to make the public aware of the severity of the flu, encourage good hygienic practices, handout face masks. It's gonna be a bumpy ride if the virus mutates.



Edited by Renee 2005-11-16 3:20 PM
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